Kalamazoo Jambo Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, rudi must stay said: Banana's instead of guns in films. Nobody would get hurt Slip and fall hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Skacelsid said: No surprise in a country where assault rifles can be legally acquired. Should these guns not be completely fake replicas, i.e. they have no firing mechanism or ammunition chambers whatsoever. Which would still require scrutiny. The discussion should not be about blank or dummy bullets, if an accident can happen, it will. You still have the fire the gun for the scene. It's not just a static prop. But I get that you could maybe do the muzzle flash, recoil etc in post production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, jonesy said: Guns don't kill people... Rappers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Tazio said: Rappers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 hours ago, jonesy said: Guns don't kill people... Wabbits do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Doctors are fighting to save the arm of a crew member who was bitten by a brown recluse spider, which is venomous. The crew member was winding down the production set of the film when he was bitten by the spider. https://news.sky.com/story/alec-baldwin-film-shooting-rust-crew-member-in-hospital-for-multiple-surgeries-after-spider-bite-12462638 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Doctors are fighting to save the arm of a crew member who was bitten by a brown recluse spider, which is venomous. The crew member was winding down the production set of the film when he was bitten by the spider. https://news.sky.com/story/alec-baldwin-film-shooting-rust-crew-member-in-hospital-for-multiple-surgeries-after-spider-bite-12462638 This truly is a cursed production like the Twilight Zone movie or The Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 29/10/2021 at 19:50, dobmisterdobster said: You still have the fire the gun for the scene. It's not just a static prop. But I get that you could maybe do the muzzle flash, recoil etc in post production. The military currently have an indoor set up called the Dismounted Close Combat Trainer (DCCT) which is in effect a multi million pound XBOX. There are loads of them dotted around the country in hangers at military barracks. The weapons used are authentic looking with their own internal gas and electrical system, the shots are laser shots projected onto a dynamic large screen, the weapons kick back, there is sound etc…..it’s a really impressive set up for up to 12 soldiers. You can call in air strikes/artillery, there is rocket launchers/50 calibre machine guns/grenade machine guns etc……you can plug in every weapon used by the infantry and an impressive list of scenarios from desert/urban/rural settings etc. all the scenarios are controlled by a central operator (of which I was one) that can analyse every part of each stage, you can even introduce a weapon jam in the middle of a firefight, so the technology is there for film sets to use…….I suppose it’s probably a cost issue to buy up this stuff. Google “dismounted close combat trainer” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Lots of talk about banning guns from film sets, heard one producer say that real guns are not needed, it's not like we are soldiers and at war so guns are not needed. Yet, you can walk along most/any street in New Mexico armed to the teeth, you ain't a soldier and you aren't at war, so you don't need guns. I'm hopeful that it's a start that Americans are at least having the discussion that guns are not needed on film sets, once they realise this, then they'll realise that ordinary citizens don't need guns in their day to day life. It's a long way off, but it's maybe a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I've seen bits of an interview (grilling) on news earlier. I don't understand that he is allowed to speak in public about it. https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/alec-baldwin-exclusive-trigger-pulled-pull-trigger/story?id=81491305 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 So, after hearing from the Alec Baldwin interview yesterday that he didn’t pull the trigger, I was a bit sceptical because someone did. It now transpires that the gun went off whilst he was pulling the hammer back, which it will do if you don’t pull the hammer all the way back till it clicks/locks so, in actual fact he didn’t actually pull the trigger. Also, the act of pulling the hammer back with your thumb takes some considerable force to do this, it would appear his thumb let go of the hammer before it was fully locked back. The thumb being an opposing digit, would not have been in its normal holding position around the pistol handle therefor making the grip very unstable, it would be virtually impossible to be aiming the pistol whilst pulling the hammer back…….extremely unlucky that this killed someone. Still, the question remains, how did a live round get into the pistol chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 It seems that there had already been 3 occasions of unexplained gun firings before Baldwin's fatal one. No evidence that the reasons for these 3 were investigated - which looks consistent with the reports of corner-cutting & lack of safety protocols coming from some crew members. The armourer girl seems to have had limited experience in films and had come in for criticism on a previous film set. Her father is involved in the storage & supply of weaponry for entertainment events, including films - and might include live ammunition. A picture of incompetence and cost-cutting is emerging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 23/10/2021 at 14:26, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: Didn't realise until now she has a young son. Just tragic all round. Family without a mum, Baldwin fired the gun, assistant director cleared it, armourer in her 20s new to the job presumably prepared it. A few lives are never going to be the same again. Despite some other thoughts, Alex Baldwin is back at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Baldwin and the armourer being charged with involuntary manslaughter https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64337761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 He deserves to rot in prison but he won't spend a day inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 08/11/2021 at 08:39, highlandjambo3 said: The military currently have an indoor set up called the Dismounted Close Combat Trainer (DCCT) which is in effect a multi million pound XBOX. There are loads of them dotted around the country in hangers at military barracks. The weapons used are authentic looking with their own internal gas and electrical system, the shots are laser shots projected onto a dynamic large screen, the weapons kick back, there is sound etc…..it’s a really impressive set up for up to 12 soldiers. You can call in air strikes/artillery, there is rocket launchers/50 calibre machine guns/grenade machine guns etc……you can plug in every weapon used by the infantry and an impressive list of scenarios from desert/urban/rural settings etc. all the scenarios are controlled by a central operator (of which I was one) that can analyse every part of each stage, you can even introduce a weapon jam in the middle of a firefight, so the technology is there for film sets to use…….I suppose it’s probably a cost issue to buy up this stuff. Google “dismounted close combat trainer” Don't you miss the "old days"😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I haven't been following the case in any great detail, and wondering how Baldwin can be deemed culpable. I get why the 'armourer' is, but not Baldwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) On 19/01/2023 at 16:19, PortyJambo said: Baldwin and the armourer being charged with involuntary manslaughter https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64337761 Charges dropped against Alex Baldwin https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/20/alec-baldwin-charges-dropped-rust-shooting Edited April 20, 2023 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 involuntary manslaughter charges brought again, against alec baldwin https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68038106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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