Johnny Depp (cancel culture)

[AlimOzturk]

Massive fan of Johnny depp. From what I have seen from his story and his ex seems they were as bad as each in terms of domestic abuse. He gets cancelled whilst she still goes on having a career. Hollywood is so hypocritical it’s unreal. 
 

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/latest-johnny-depp-says-cancel-culture-is-so-far-out-of-hand-20210922?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1I4e3F813qVLhS5ugsvk0XjoxDXqLDg22OI_aRcJVb4XD188L_7vbkAV4

[AlimOzturk]

This is of course first world problems but depp and Kevin spacey are the two latest “victims” of a cancel culture when neither men have actually had anything been convicted of anything. 

[AlimOzturk]

I also see the irony in being “cancelled” but at the same time still receiving a life time achievement award. 

[highlandjambo3]

Johnny will survive….down to his last 50mil so better pull the belt in 😎

[ri Alban]

Johnny did nothing to her. No one is cancelling JD, because everyone knows what Amber Heard is all about.

Anyway, old news 

[Auldbenches]

51 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Johnny did nothing to her. No one is cancelling JD, because everyone knows what Amber Heard is all about.

Anyway, old news 

Are folk cancelling her for hitting him?  

 

[ri Alban]

11 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Are folk cancelling her for hitting him?  

 

I don't know and don't care.

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

I don't know and don't care.

It wasn't a criticism, more about it seemed he was tha only one guilty of anything when she was hitting him as well. 

Both wrong but he gets tagged the bad one here.  

 

[luckyBatistuta]

1 minute ago, Auldbenches said:

It wasn't a criticism, more about it seemed he was tha only one guilty of anything when she was hitting him as well. 

Both wrong but he gets tagged the bad one here.  

 

Surely nobody can be shocked by that

[ri Alban]

1 minute ago, Auldbenches said:

It wasn't a criticism, more about it seemed he was tha only one guilty of anything when she was hitting him as well. 

Both wrong but he gets tagged the bad one here.  

 

A bad day when your own parents defend the son in-law. And his ex wife did the same. She's not very nice.

[Auldbenches]

Just now, luckyBatistuta said:

Surely nobody can be shocked by that

I suppose...

Both used violence and it's the only the man demonise.

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

A bad day when your own parents defend the son in-law. And his ex wife did the same. She's not very nice.

Though you have to question him sometimes being out with marilyn Manson...

Though imagine trying to keep up in a session with those two?  

 

[luckyBatistuta]

1 minute ago, Auldbenches said:

I suppose...

Both used violence and it's the only the man demonise.

Never hit a woman in my life and never intend to. I came close to once when a female tried to stab me in the face with a screwdriver, but still walked away. My auntie died from the constant beatings she took from her husband. Despise men who beat women, but it’s still in no way acceptable for a woman to think it’s alright for her to physically abuse a man.

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, luckyBatistuta said:

Never hit a woman in my life and never intend to. I came close to once when a female tried to stab me in the face with a screwdriver, but still walked away. My auntie died from the constant beatings she took from her husband. Despise men who beat women, but it’s still in no way acceptable for a woman to think it’s alright for her to physically abuse a man.

Violence in any form when it comes to relationships is well out if order.

Thankfully they are now accepting it happens to both sexes and men on the receiving end are being taken as seriously by the authorities. 

Don't know about the states as their court case was for libel. 

 

 

[Savage Vince]

Picking up a prestigious award at a respected film festival and moans about being cancelled. 😁

 

The whole cancel culture myth is just laughable. 

[Savage Vince]

6 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

This is of course first world problems but depp and Kevin spacey are the two latest “victims” of a cancel culture when neither men have actually had anything been convicted of anything. 

 

Spacey had at one point 6 UK investigations regarding his behaviour towards young men on the go. A case involving a young man in the States was only dropped when the guy died and another crashed when the alleged victim refused to have his identity made public. There's reams of other stuff against Spacey's name. He is widely disliked amongst the gay community for being another man to come out due to lewd behaviour after years of denying he was gay. 

[Auldbenches]

10 minutes ago, Savage Vince said:

Picking up a prestigious award at a respected film festival and moans about being cancelled. 😁

 

The whole cancel culture myth is just laughable. 

Cancel culture in the movies? Aye right.  Woody Allen, Polanski etc   

Doest stop many actors and actresses working with them.  Especially Polanski who is still in the run  

[Tazio]

4 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Cancel culture in the movies? Aye right.  Woody Allen, Polanski etc   

Doest stop many actors and actresses working with them.  Especially Polanski who is still in the run  

Polanski is a ****ing animal. Anyone who works with him should be ashamed of themselves. I didn’t realise how bad the crime was until I read about it. Horrendous. 

[Savage Vince]

4 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Cancel culture in the movies? Aye right.  Woody Allen, Polanski etc   

Doest stop many actors and actresses working with them.  Especially Polanski who is still in the run  

 

Exactly. Neither of these two were cancelled. It's a whole heap of shite. 

 

Fans of performers will find ways to defend their sins. Look at Michael Jackson, or to a lesser extent Bowie and Mercury. 

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, Tazio said:

Polanski is a ****ing animal. Anyone who works with him should be ashamed of themselves. I didn’t realise how bad the crime was until I read about it. Horrendous. 

I haven't read about it, but ewan McGregor was singing his praises not long ago. 

No morals when the money is there...

You're right about anyone working with him.  Baffling how it's acceptable.  

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, Savage Vince said:

 

Exactly. Neither of these two were cancelled. It's a whole heap of shite. 

 

Fans of performers will find ways to defend their sins. Look at Michael Jackson, or to a lesser extent Bowie and Mercury. 

Michael Jackson is the perfect example.  Does his stuff still get played on radio? 

Didn't know about Bowie being dodgy, or mercury. 

What's the script there?  

 

[Savage Vince]

3 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Michael Jackson is the perfect example.  Does his stuff still get played on radio? 

Didn't know about Bowie being dodgy, or mercury. 

What's the script there?  

 

 

Bowie was well known to be into underage groupies during the 70s and early 80s and Mercury's behaviour with young male escorts was also no secret. The meaning behind the song "Don't Stop Me Now" can be found after a quick online search. 

Edited September 24, 2021 by Savage Vince

[Auldbenches]

Just now, Savage Vince said:

 

Bowie was well known to me into underage groupies during the 70s and early 80s and Mercury's behaviour with young male escorts was also no secret. The meaning behind the song "Don't Stop Me Now" can be found after a quick online search. 

They were all at it in the 70s.  Even John peel was supposed to get a new part of the bbc named after him but was supposed to have seen a 15 year old for a while.  

I'm sure I read he claimed he thought she was 18 etc.  

I'll look for the meaning to that song.  

[Tazio]

5 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

I haven't read about it, but ewan McGregor was singing his praises not long ago. 

No morals when the money is there...

You're right about anyone working with him.  Baffling how it's acceptable.  

I’d have trouble even being in the same room as a man who raped and sodomised a 13 year old child after giving them alcohol and drugs. Several other women including underage ones has since come out and said he raped them. 

[Savage Vince]

Just now, Auldbenches said:

They were all at it in the 70s.  Even John peel was supposed to get a new part of the bbc named after him but was supposed to have seen a 15 year old for a while.  

I'm sure I read he claimed he thought she was 18 etc.  

I'll look for the meaning to that song.  

 

Peel was up there with the worst. As soon as the Jimmy Saville scandal broke the BBC shelved plans to name a new wing after him and never revisited it because they knew what he'd been up to as well. 

[Savage Vince]

3 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

They were all at it in the 70s. 

 

Only because it was harder to get caught. 

[Auldbenches]

Just now, Savage Vince said:

 

Peel was up there with the worst. As soon as the Jimmy Saville scandal broke the BBC shelved plans to name a new wing after him and never revisited it because they knew what he'd been up to as well. 

That was it.  A new music wing that didn't name after him.   

He even dine that very good show about families on radio 4  

[Savage Vince]

Just now, Auldbenches said:

That was it.  A new music wing that didn't name after him.   

He even dine that very good show about families on radio 4  

 

He married his 15 year old bride in a state in the US where he could marry a 15 year old and then made her life a misery. He was 28.

[Auldbenches]

Just now, Savage Vince said:

 

He married his 15 year old bride in a state in the US where he could marry a 15 year old and then made her life a misery. He was 28.

I forgot about him being in the states.  I thought he only lied about knowing the Beatles... 

Maybe why mark e Smith wasn't that friendly with him.  Though he left brix e Smith for a 16 year old about the same age as peel was. 

Someone said the other day that savilles Glencoe house has been bought and getting demolished.  Should've been taken down ages ago.  Past it about 4 weeks ago and it gives you the creeps.  

[Malinga the Swinga]

I remember the good old days when people needed a trial before they were found guilty.

 

[AlimOzturk]

Doesn’t seem to happen as much in the soap world. Bill Roach (aka the ruiner) being one example. Considering the level of accusations he had you would have thought the cancel culture would have been out for blood. He has managed to continue his career unmolested (pun not intended)

 

thankfully not because he was found innocent. 

Edited September 24, 2021 by AlimOzturk

[AlimOzturk]

2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I remember the good old days when people needed a trial before they were found guilty.

 

Cancel culture doesn’t need any proof. 

[Auldbenches]

2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I remember the good old days when people needed a trial before they were found guilty.

 

 

2 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Doesn’t seem to happen as much in the soap world. Bill Roach (aka the ruiner) being one example. Considering the level of accusations he had you would have thought the cancel culture would have been out for blood. He has managed to continue his career unmolested (pun not intended)

He should get cancelled for being a druid.

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

Cancel culture doesn’t need any proof. 

I suppose the one really good thing about it is that celebrities will now have to behave themselves that way.   

 

[Auldbenches]

24 minutes ago, Savage Vince said:

 

Bowie was well known to be into underage groupies during the 70s and early 80s and Mercury's behaviour with young male escorts was also no secret. The meaning behind the song "Don't Stop Me Now" can be found after a quick online search. 

Looked for the real meaning.  Found a quote about it from Brian May and his only concern regarding the lyrics s about mercury's health. 

Hope Brian May is clean.  Not a queen fan, but he seems a genuinely nice guy.  

Saw him on Facebook giving basic guitar lessons for free and a really nice guy.  

Saw him showing how to play house of the rising sun.  Good to see someone not just doing things for more money.  

[CF11JamTart]

35 minutes ago, Savage Vince said:

 

He married his 15 year old bride in a state in the US where he could marry a 15 year old and then made her life a misery. He was 28.

And he's viewed as St John, the patron saint of 6 Music. 

 

All that has conveniently got airbrushed. 

[AlimOzturk]

19 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Looked for the real meaning.  Found a quote about it from Brian May and his only concern regarding the lyrics s about mercury's health. 

Hope Brian May is clean.  Not a queen fan, but he seems a genuinely nice guy.  

Saw him on Facebook giving basic guitar lessons for free and a really nice guy.  

Saw him showing how to play house of the rising sun.  Good to see someone not just doing things for more money.  

Doubt Brian may got up to shenanigans. Think Freddie did enough for the rest of the band combined. 

[AlphonseCapone]

The only thing more tragic than the concept of cancel culture is all the folk getting their knickers in a twist about cancel culture. Get off the Internet every now and again and you'll realise the majority of the world doesn't give a shit about any of this. 

[Cade]

The music and film industries have been festering cesspits of sexual abuse for as long as they have existed.

 

It's a good thing that it's all being exposed after decades of being swept under the carpet.

 

But just because certain people have seemingly gotten away with it does not mean that everybody should get a free pass. That's not how it works.

 

In the specific case of Wife Beater Depp, he lost his libel case against The Sun when it labelled him Wife Beater.

The Judge hearing the case did not just dismiss Wife Beater Depp's plea but also found that his wife's evidence carried a burden of proof that would have satisfied a civil court. 

So he was judged to actually BE a wife beater, which is why he lost the case.

This is hardly Wife Beater Depp's first run in with the law, with various cases being put against him over a few decades, all for violence.

Even some of his former bodyguards have sued him for mistreatment.

 

Did Amber Heard hit him back? Perhaps yes.

But then she hasn't had any kind of legal proof held against her.

She's not been cancelled per se but her career has certainly stuttered.

During Wife Beater Depp's failed libel case, the Judge found that her career had been adversely affected by her claims of violence at the hands of her husband.

 

The two of them are still embroiled in suit and counter-suit over various allegations of hoaxes and defamation.

Seems that Wife Beater Depp is determined to make her spend all of her $7million divorce settlement fighting him in court.

Guy's a prick.

 

[The Hogfather]

It's amazing how many of these "cancelled" celebrities still have a platform, isn't it? It's almost as if it's a myth peddled by right wing nut jobs who can't quite wake up to the fact that "free speech" doesn't equate to "free from consequences".

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

3 hours ago, Nunya Business said:

It's amazing how many of these "cancelled" celebrities still have a platform, isn't it? It's almost as if it's a myth peddled by right wing nut jobs who can't quite wake up to the fact that "free speech" doesn't equate to "free from consequences".

Yes indeed.

[Auldbenches]

12 hours ago, Nunya Business said:

It's amazing how many of these "cancelled" celebrities still have a platform, isn't it? It's almost as if it's a myth peddled by right wing nut jobs who can't quite wake up to the fact that "free speech" doesn't equate to "free from consequences".

Cancel culture has been on the go for years and we just hear about people doing it now.

I like some rolling stones stuff but wouldn't buy any of there stuff as I can't stand mick Jagger...

I think I heard it in relation to the northern Irish problems that it isn't free speech if it costs you a slap.*

Express your views but accept their will be consequences if aired in public. 

*not advocating a slap.

 

[Салатные палочки]

Still though. She could batter me about silly if she so wished. 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

15 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I remember the good old days when people needed a trial before they were found guilty.

 

I know . Surprised and shocked at some of the responses on this about some famous people . It’s mainly gossip and tittle tattle , spurned by dislike of some of those celebrities or other issues . 

[Tazio]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I know . Surprised and shocked at some of the responses on this about some famous people . It’s mainly gossip and tittle tattle , spurned by dislike of some of those celebrities or other issues . 

The only person I’ve mentioned is Polanski who is guilty as hell. 

[Spellczech]

People have become very judgemental of others. Cannot condone bashing a partner by either sex, but I don't like the "holier than thou" way that others jump on bandwagons without know all the circumstances, let alone the truth. The legal system is out of touch and pretty inept, but trial by social media is an even worse phenomenon. 

 

Having said this, I am an opinionated so-and-so myself, but I only share my opinions on here where the audience is very limited. I don't have any aspirations to go global on the likes of Twitter, and if I was famous or actually had some "influence", I'd be even more unlikely to join the debate...

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, Tazio said:

The only person I’ve mentioned is Polanski who is guilty as hell. 

It’s the ones about Freddie Mercury and Bowie i was mainly referring to and since I’m at it the allegations against Woody Allen were thoroughly investigated twice and nothing came from it . I haven’t read much into the Polanski stuff so can’t comment regarding him. 

[Auldbenches]

23 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I know . Surprised and shocked at some of the responses on this about some famous people . It’s mainly gossip and tittle tattle , spurned by dislike of some of those celebrities or other issues . 

Who has named anyone innocent?  

[JudyJudyJudy]

27 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Who has named anyone innocent?  

Eh ? 

[Auld Reekin']

 

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