Hearts: The Road to Recovery - Sky Sports

[Sertse]

 

 

 

[Clark Griswold]

Decent summary, it’s amazing how far we’ve come from the SOH days 

[Jambos_1874]

Thanks for posting that. Never fails to send shivers up my spine when I hear how close we were to oblivion. I'm glad that we're getting some publicity on this as it highlights the amazing efforts of the fans, AB and the Foundation.

[Carl Fredrickson]

I read Ian Murrays book about FOH and the purchase of the club and it was a great read 

 

The mess the club was in is eye opening and we were so close of doing a Rangers but without the option of restarting in the bottom division. 

 

For that we should be eternally grateful to Ann Budge for fronting up the money to allow the CVA to go through and everyone who has paid anything into FoH. 

 

Where we are now compared to the Romanov years is night and day and we should not take things for granted.

[kingantti1874]

We should be building a statue for the people who started this movement and Ann budge.  Have they made mistakes of course they have, have they got every decision correct - nope, especially not on the football side. 

 

but my god, in the history of the club they are right up there with the most important.

[Rogue Daddy]

Just watched it on SKY, great to see some positive coverage of our great club (from a news outlet) for once!

 

FTH

[Perth to Paisley]

Reasonable representation.

 

So many stories not told about the 'journey' .. . Maybe one day.

[jamboozy]

Set off again, I’m gonna be dehydrated at this rate.

[manaliveits105]

Glorious 

[3fingersreid]

I like Bryan Jackson calling Hearts OUR club 

[thegreatsd]

Great stuff. Things are looking great for the future. Amazing how far we have come to get to this point from where we were. It’s been tough at times but I reckon we have got things done brilliantly off the park and are just about on the verge of things going very well on the park as well. Everything seems to be coming together and a strong togetherness at OUR wonderful club. Exciting times ahead👍

[Thomaso]

47 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

Just watched it on SKY, great to see some positive coverage of our great club (from a news outlet) for once!

 

FTH

BBC Scotland hang your head in shame!

[Thomaso]

17 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

I like Bryan Jackson calling Hearts OUR club 

Met him a few times - a lovely man that really cared about our Club. He needs honoured in some way.

[Thomaso]

49 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said:

Reasonable representation.

 

So many stories not told about the 'journey' .. . Maybe one day.

It’s all in Ian Murray’s book 👍

[newbie]

But but but surely only Hearts' operating company would've gone into liquidation, while the immortal, metaphysical club would've continued, untarnished and debt-free?

 

Have we learned nothing from the biggest scam in Scottish sporting history?

 

I mean, surely the liquidation survival fallacy doesn't only apply to Rangers?

[Carl Fredrickson]

12 minutes ago, newbie said:

But but but surely only Hearts' operating company would've gone into liquidation, while the immortal, metaphysical club would've continued, untarnished and debt-free?

 

Have we learned nothing from the biggest scam in Scottish sporting history?

 

I mean, surely the liquidation survival fallacy doesn't only apply to Rangers?

 

In Ian Murrays book he says Bryan Jackson approached the SFA & SPL about this possibility but funnily enough the rules had been tightened up after Rangers liquidation and the road back they took was no loner an option. We would have had to start in non-league if we were liquidated. 

[Thomaso]

36 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

I like Bryan Jackson calling Hearts OUR club 

I he’s too professional to do so, but I would have loved Bryan to have called out Hibs fans on this programme to expose them for the bitter cretins that they are - the bonus fax offers to the Lithuanian Receiver, the letters of complaints to the Lithuanian Government and Pension Authority, the letters to the Lithuanian Press! 😏

 

[TyphoonJambo]

1 hour ago, jamboozy said:

Set off again, I’m gonna be dehydrated at this rate.

Best you start "re hydrating" pronto. Though not too much,big day ahead tomorrow.  Bring it on!!!!!

[iainmac]

1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said:

Decent summary, it’s amazing how far we’ve come from the SOH days 

 

On a similar vein, here's a podcast with myself, @LaurieMark Donaldson & Ewan Murray talking about the same period.

 

https://scarvesaroundthefunnel.co.uk/2021/09/03/episode-149-save-our-wives/

 

[wavydavy]

47 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

BBC Scotland hang your head in shame!

 

They don't know the meaning of the word shame.

[PortyBeach]

27 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said:

 

In Ian Murrays book he says Bryan Jackson approached the SFA & SPL about this possibility but funnily enough the rules had been tightened up after Rangers liquidation and the road back they took was no loner an option. We would have had to start in non-league if we were liquidated. 

Well of course! After all, we were told there would be “civil unrest” (no doubt with the now customary Police Scotland escort) if a “Rangers” didn’t exist. So a “Rangers” - any “Rangers” - had to continue. The corrupt SFA/SPL wouldn’t have shown us the same consideration.

Adding insult to injury, the same corrupt b******s conferred all the titles of the liquidated RFC to the new club and began the continuity myth. 
Some trick:

1. lie and say it was the “holding company” of the original entity that was liquidated and that football club continued throughout 

2. the debts belonged to said “holding company” and don’t apply to the ongoing, eternal, entity that is the football club - the club that emerged debt-free and of course retained all the previous trophies.

Hearts fans can take pride in, and deserve huge credit for, the backing they gave their club. The corresponding inaction on the part of the Ibrox follow-followers when faced with a similar existential threat stands in stark contrast.

 

[Sertse]

Makes me laugh the first comment was some septic mutant. Obviously upset they aren't talking about his club.

[Rogue Daddy]

1 hour ago, Thomaso said:

BBC Scotland hang your head in shame!

Absolutely 👍

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, Thomaso said:

BBC Scotland hang your head in shame!

My first thought. I never thought I would see the day when SkySports puts the BBC(Scotland) to shame.

There was a time when you trusted the BBC with their output, since the turn of the millennium their standards have  fallen quicker then whore's knickers on Salamander Street.

Let others mock us, I don't care.

I am reminded of the parable in the bible of the man who builds his house on a foundation of sand and the man who builds his house on a foundation of solid rock. 

Heart of Midlothian are now a football club whose foundations are certainly built on solid rock. 

We must never forget just how close we were to being Tesco's at Gorgie, a baw hair width away.

Although it has been seven years since we exited administration, seven years is not in the great scheme of things a longtime. Hell my second marriage lasted nine years!(the first one twenty one years).

Although no silverware yet, we have been to one league Cup final and two Scottish Cup finals between 2013-2020.

Which is more than we achieved between 1968-1985.

Football today in Scotland is vastly different to the football I grew up with 1963-1981(when I became eighteen), it is very difficult to overcome the Glasgow duopoly, in terms of winning the top league, they have the game sewn up in terms of the SFA, SPFL, referees(yes they do, just look at the appointments whenever we play one of them).

I firmly believe Hearts are chipping away though, I believe Ann Budge's time on the SPFL board, and the shenanigans last year, put a resolve in the board of Heart of Midlothian to do their best to break that duopoly. 

The results won't happen overnight, which is a great dismay to many, as like their coffee they want everything instant nowadays, PATIENCE, is the thing here, this is a long game we are engaged in now, I am not saying we will win it, but I firmly believe we are going to give it a bloody good go.

Afterall I was thirty five years old when we won the Scottish Cup in 1998, our fifth Scottish Cup final of my lifetime.

I like thousands of others who had witnessed those finals were in a firm belief of not in our lifetime, always the Bridesmaid. It happened that glorious day in the sunshine the 16/05/98.

So my fellow Heart of Midlothian supporters, NEVER SAY NEVER.

Let's go top of the league on our own tomorrow by beating Hibernian our oldest and fiercest city rivals.

 

Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle Park...........

[vegas-voss]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

We should be building a statue for the people who started this movement and Ann budge.  Have they made mistakes of course they have, have they got every decision correct - nope, especially not on the football side. 

 

but my god, in the history of the club they are right up there with the most important.

In total agreement with this

[Perth to Paisley]

2 hours ago, Thomaso said:

It’s all in Ian Murray’s book 👍

Fairly certain there is more to tell.

I found a couple of factual errors when I read it.

[gashauskis9]

Well done SKY, that was superb 👏👏👏

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, iainmac said:

 

On a similar vein, here's a podcast with myself, @LaurieMark Donaldson & Ewan Murray talking about the same period.

 

https://scarvesaroundthefunnel.co.uk/2021/09/03/episode-149-save-our-wives/

 

Well done Iain.

[john thomas]

54 minutes ago, Sertse said:

Makes me laugh the first comment was some septic mutant. Obviously upset they aren't talking about his club.

Missed that ?

[Thomaso]

23 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said:

Fairly certain there is more to tell.

I found a couple of factual errors when I read it.

Such as? 🤔

[Thomaso]

3 minutes ago, john thomas said:

Missed that ?

Me too - not sure what he was referring to.

[Carl Fredrickson]

1 hour ago, jonesy said:

I think the rules were tight enough beforehand. It was perhaps the threat of 'civil unrest' that made them right roughshod over them... 

 

Oh I agree 100%

[Carl Fredrickson]

1 hour ago, PortyBeach said:

Well of course! After all, we were told there would be “civil unrest” (no doubt with the now customary Police Scotland escort) if a “Rangers” didn’t exist. So a “Rangers” - any “Rangers” - had to continue. The corrupt SFA/SPL wouldn’t have shown us the same consideration.

Adding insult to injury, the same corrupt b******s conferred all the titles of the liquidated RFC to the new club and began the continuity myth. 
Some trick:

1. lie and say it was the “holding company” of the original entity that was liquidated and that football club continued throughout 

2. the debts belonged to said “holding company” and don’t apply to the ongoing, eternal, entity that is the football club - the club that emerged debt-free and of course retained all the previous trophies.

Hearts fans can take pride in, and deserve huge credit for, the backing they gave their club. The corresponding inaction on the part of the Ibrox follow-followers when faced with a similar existential threat stands in stark contrast.

 

 

Exactly - one rule for erse cheeks and another for the rest of us.

[Tasavallan]

3 hours ago, jamboozy said:

Set off again, I’m gonna be dehydrated at this rate.

 

And we still have tomorrow to live through.  It must be terrible being a Hibby with nothing, no tradition, no history, just nothing.

[Tasavallan]

Why does BBC's Chris McLaughlin need to stand outside Parkhead when giving news about the arsecheek bros?

[John Findlay]

7 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

Why does BBC's Chris McLaughlin need to stand outside Parkhead when giving news about the arsecheek bros?

Because he's not allowed to stand outside Ibrox😉

[jamboozy]

48 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

 

And we still have tomorrow to live through.  It must be terrible being a Hibby with nothing, no tradition, no history, just nothing.

All tensed up here, that much static energy coming off me, you could power a small island nation😬

[jamboozy]

3 hours ago, TypoonJambo said:

Best you start "re hydrating" pronto. Though not too much,big day ahead tomorrow.  Bring it on!!!!!

Oh yes! All part of the plan.👍

[Sertse]

1 hour ago, john thomas said:

Missed that ?

 

 

 

[PortyBeach]

20 minutes ago, Sertse said:

 

 

 

No, it was more to do with the gross imbalance in terms of financial and other resources that Celtic possess in relation to Hearts. 
Some guy laughing at and lording over at a smaller, weaker, opponent: there’s a name for an attitude/behaviour like that and it doesn’t do you credit, “champ”.

[SectionDJambo]

32 minutes ago, Sertse said:

 

 

 

And how we laughed when they messed up their 10 in a row. 😂

[SectionDJambo]

3 hours ago, Thomaso said:

I he’s too professional to do so, but I would have loved Bryan to have called out Hibs fans on this programme to expose them for the bitter cretins that they are - the bonus fax offers to the Lithuanian Receiver, the letters of complaints to the Lithuanian Government and Pension Authority, the letters to the Lithuanian Press! 😏

 

It was a great victory for us. Probably the finest victory in our club’s history.

Crushing their hopes and dreams again, not for the first  time and likely not for the last time. 
In my experience there were many of them, not just a few, who were celebrating what they thought was the end of our football club. Them and their Celtic pals.

They underestimated the determination of us to ram their taunts and cheers, over their expectations of our demise, back down their throats.

[Locky]

Fair play. Decent, wee informative piece for those who don't know.

 

Did this get shown on Sky Sports News at all? Be great to see some more publicity for this. Putting it just on the Scottish page is preaching to the choir a little.

[WASTREL]

7 hours ago, Sertse said:

 

 

 

That gave me goosebumps !!

[Spellczech]

Always hated the "Jam tarts" thing...just a rubbish mock mockney rhyme. On a par with "Hertz" on the irritation scale. 

 

Hearts IS the abbreviated form of Heart of Midlothian.

Edited September 11, 2021 by Spellczech

[Lone Striker]

6 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

On a similar vein, here's a podcast with myself, @LaurieMark Donaldson & Ewan Murray talking about the same period.

 

https://scarvesaroundthefunnel.co.uk/2021/09/03/episode-149-save-our-wives/

 

Just listened to that - great discussion.  But you were the star  of the show, Iain !!      Well done.  

[john thomas]

3 hours ago, Sertse said:

 

 

 

Ah

[Perth to Paisley]

8 hours ago, Thomaso said:

Such as? 🤔

One was which row in section F he sat!

Can't remember the others offhand 

[Thomaso]

5 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said:

One was which row in section F he sat!

Can't remember the others offhand 

Was that it? 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Unbelievable that some folk back in April seemed to miss Romanov