Der Kaiser Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 BBC News - Nirvana sued by the baby from Nevermind's album cover https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58327844 Recreated the image numerous times. Said it opened doors for him. But now.... I'm guessing paychecks have been light of late so he needs a balance top up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 He comes across as a total welt. Unless he directly tells people who heis the vast majority will be oblivious to his fame. He’s clearly skint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 He's been milking it for years so can only assume he's now skint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Smells Like a Lawsuit. Strange one. It's a classic album and one of the most recognisable covers in the world but it is kinda weird looking back. I have no issue with it but many would, especially in the current climate. Was there not someone who had a 15 year old girl naked on the front cover or inside sleeve of an album? Think it was some 70's rock band. Also, the Pistols had a naked Soo Catwoman in the Great Rock and Roll Swindle and she was 14 at the time or something. Could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Doesn't seem like he was that "exploited" by it when he gave this quote 6 years ago. At it. "It's always been a positive thing and opened doors for me," he told the Guardian six years ago. "I'm 23 now and an artist, and this story gave me an opportunity to work with Shepard Fairey for five years, which was an awesome experience. He is a huge music connoisseur: when he heard I was the Nirvana baby, he thought that was really cool." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Get a ****ing job you prick. You were just a baby model used for one day. A day for which your parents I assume were paid a sum for. You contribute **** all, you add nothing to the album. Any baby boy on the planet could have replaced you. Why should the real contributors to this great album give you shit? The ***** probably thinks he is entitled to royalties too. *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: Smells Like a Lawsuit. Strange one. It's a classic album and one of the most recognisable covers in the world but it is kinda weird looking back. I have no issue with it but many would, especially in the current climate. Was there not someone who had a 15 year old girl naked on the front cover or inside sleeve of an album? Think it was some 70's rock band. Also, the Pistols had a naked Soo Catwoman in the Great Rock and Roll Swindle and she was 14 at the time or something. Could be wrong. I think Soo Catwoman was much older than that when she became known as a Pistols hanger-on / Bromley Contingent member. More like 18 or 20 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Phamism Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: Smells Like a Lawsuit. Strange one. It's a classic album and one of the most recognisable covers in the world but it is kinda weird looking back. I have no issue with it but many would, especially in the current climate. Was there not someone who had a 15 year old girl naked on the front cover or inside sleeve of an album? Think it was some 70's rock band. Also, the Pistols had a naked Soo Catwoman in the Great Rock and Roll Swindle and she was 14 at the time or something. Could be wrong. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedarmy Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hugh Phamism said: Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy?? The blind faith album may be the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedarmy Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Victorian said: I think Soo Catwoman was much older than that when she became known as a Pistols hanger-on / Bromley Contingent member. More like 18 or 20 or so. I read an interview with soo and she said it's not her in the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 If he wins, everyone with that album will have child porn in their house. Get 'em on the register! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: If he wins, everyone with that album will have child porn in their house. Get 'em on the register! I gave my copy to my son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, tedarmy said: I read an interview with soo and she said it's not her in the photo. Think she's tried to disassociate herself with that entire era and a lot of the dubious characters that were around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hugh Phamism said: Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy?? This was more full-frontal. A girl with long dark hair and a white/light background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, tedarmy said: The blind faith album may be the one. That's the one! Forget the white/light background. That may be another one. I just googled controversial album covers and it was on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Izemore Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 There was also the EP The Last of the Mohicans by Bow Wow Wow with 15 year old lead singer Annabella Lwin on the cover. That Malcolm McLaren was a rogue eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 ****ing Americans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 hours ago, PortyJambo said: Doesn't seem like he was that "exploited" by it when he gave this quote 6 years ago. At it. "It's always been a positive thing and opened doors for me," he told the Guardian six years ago. "I'm 23 now and an artist, and this story gave me an opportunity to work with Shepard Fairey for five years, which was an awesome experience. He is a huge music connoisseur: when he heard I was the Nirvana baby, he thought that was really cool." And that statement should be the end of the case right there and then. Judge - At what point did you realise or think that you'd been exploited. Nirvana Baby - Right about when the work started to dry up and the paychecks stopped. Judge - Case dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: This was more full-frontal. A girl with long dark hair and a white/light background. Scorpions had a 70s album called Virgin Killer. The original artwork is discontinued... https://www.discogs.com/Scorpions-Virgin-Killer/master/29415 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 How the court case will go, in pictures: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hugh Phamism said: Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy?? The girl on the cover is Samantha Gates and her brother Stefan. She was in ‘The Water Babies’ movie. One of my favourites when I was wee. Wee bit of useless trivia there. Edited August 25, 2021 by iantjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Only wants $2.5m for his exploited helmet. Reasonable sum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 23 hours ago, Der Kaiser said: BBC News - Nirvana sued by the baby from Nevermind's album cover https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58327844 Recreated the image numerous times. Said it opened doors for him. But now.... I'm guessing paychecks have been light of late so he needs a balance top up That's how I see it. I'd be over the moon if my baby pictures were on an album cover, especially a Nirvana one. He's just trying to screw money out them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 16 hours ago, JackLadd said: Only wants $2.5m for his exploited helmet. Reasonable sum. Being America the land of litigation, he will probably get it. Squander it and try and sue again in 5 to 10 years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 hours ago, John Findlay said: Being America the land of litigation, he will probably get it. Squander it and try and sue again in 5 to 10 years time. I saw a quote from his lawyer saying that having the dollar bill there "made him look like a sex worker." Money grabbing wee shite, more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 surely it should be his parents he is suing as they allowed it and could be seen as it was them exploiting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, milky_26 said: surely it should be his parents he is suing as they allowed it and could be seen as it was them exploiting him Ah, they probably don't have millions of $$$$$$$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, John Findlay said: Being America the land of litigation, he will probably get it. Squander it and try and sue again in 5 to 10 years time. I don't think the guy has a leg to stand on here. Any competent lawyer will use his own public domain interviews against him and get it thrown out of court in no time. He is going to have a hard time proving his case against Nirvana. Did Nirvana have much or any input into the cover? Then he is going to have to explain how he has been damaged by this case. Nobody forced him to do all these interviews and photo shoot recreations for money about his fame. Edited August 27, 2021 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, frankblack said: I don't think the guy has a leg to stand on here. Any competent lawyer will use his own public domain interviews against him and get it thrown out of court in no time. He is going to have a hard time proving his case against Nirvana. Did Nirvana have much or any input into the cover? Then he is going to have to explain how he has been damaged by this case. Nobody forced him to do all these interviews and photo shoot recreations for money about his fame. To most sensible people you are spot on. But, when it comes to litigation in the USA, sensible goes out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, frankblack said: I don't think the guy has a leg to stand on here. Any competent lawyer will use his own public domain interviews against him and get it thrown out of court in no time. He is going to have a hard time proving his case against Nirvana. Did Nirvana have much or any input into the cover? Then he is going to have to explain how he has been damaged by this case. Nobody forced him to do all these interviews and photo shoot recreations for money about his fame. So damaged that he went and got a big 'Nevermind' tattoo on his chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Lets be honest here. The guys a ****ing arsehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: So damaged that he went and got a big 'Nevermind' tattoo on his chest. That is one of the photos I remember seeing in a music magazine. Is he also suing these people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 If he wins and the image is deemed to be child porn, then it's going to open up a massive minefield. What do the Police do, do they pursue and charge everyone who has this album cover for having child porn, probably not as it's sold many millions of copies and it would be almost impossible to track every copy down and who owns it, so in effect people will be allowed to keep & own child porn. If that's the case, then it won't be long before some clever lawyer argues in court that if people can have this image and not be prosecuted then what about this image and that image and this one and that one etc etc, and from there it's a rapid decent into the cesspit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: If he wins and the image is deemed to be child porn, then it's going to open up a massive minefield. What do the Police do, do they pursue and charge everyone who has this album cover for having child porn, probably not as it's sold many millions of copies and it would be almost impossible to track every copy down and who owns it, so in effect people will be allowed to keep & own child porn. If that's the case, then it won't be long before some clever lawyer argues in court that if people can have this image and not be prosecuted then what about this image and that image and this one and that one etc etc, and from there it's a rapid decent into the cesspit. It would set a dangerous precedent that would damage the art world including film and photography. That album cover was an artistic statement of a baby chasing/swimming to a dollar note on a fishing line. You would have to be pretty sick to see otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: It would set a dangerous precedent that would damage the art world including film and photography. That album cover was an artistic statement of a baby chasing/swimming to a dollar note on a fishing line. You would have to be pretty sick to see otherwise. I was discussing this with a very right on PC friend last night and the conclusion we came to was that pretty much most things will be a turn on to someone out there. Especially photos of children but you can’t ban all images. She’s a dancer and put a photo of her feet on Instagram and got some very lewd messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, frankblack said: It would set a dangerous precedent that would damage the art world including film and photography. That album cover was an artistic statement of a baby chasing/swimming to a dollar note on a fishing line. You would have to be pretty sick to see otherwise. Yes it would, legal disclaimers all over the place. I'd say 99% of people have for the last 20 odd years seen that photo as nothing more than a kid in a pool reaching for a dollar note, it's only been sexualised to the masses by the guy himself, apart from that 1% who do/have seen it differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PortyJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Claim dismissed by judge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59867369 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Case never stood a chance. Guy's a complete prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 25/08/2021 at 15:17, Les Izemore said: There was also the EP The Last of the Mohicans by Bow Wow Wow with 15 year old lead singer Annabella Lwin on the cover. That Malcolm McLaren was a rogue eh? Love her birth name 19 minutes ago, PortyJambo said: Claim dismissed by judge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59867369 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 27/08/2021 at 14:58, Jambo-Jimbo said: Yes it would, legal disclaimers all over the place. I'd say 99% of people have for the last 20 odd years seen that photo as nothing more than a kid in a pool reaching for a dollar note, it's only been sexualised to the masses by the guy himself, apart from that 1% who do/have seen it differently. Tbf, that 1% would represent an awful lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Feckin ringpiece has amended and re-submitted his claim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Cade said: Feckin ringpiece has amended and re-submitted his claim Are his Lawyers working pro-bono as surely he couldn't afford to pay costs to the defendant lawyers on a loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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