carnockjambo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 With the red zone affecting two stands and therefore reducing the overall stadium capacity might we reduce the away end V Hibs to 2/3 of Roseburn or 1/3. There were approx over 16,000 Hearts fans at the game on Sunday. If Hibs get full allocation then some Hearts fans may miss out on a ticket ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Which has always been the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I think Hibs is unique that the derby is better when both teams get a full end. Uglies and everyone else can stay in that corner forever as far as I am concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 By cutting their allocation we are further cutting the overall attendance as segregation will be needed. Hibs are the only ones who should get the full stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Griffin Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Given that even if we give hibs the full Roseburn all our season ticket holders will be able to attend there’s no reason we shouldn’t give them the full stand. All that would happen is they would end up doing the same to us at new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Might be a case for a small reduction under these unique circumstances seen as out displaced ST holders were in the roseburn on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stewie Griffin said: Given that even if we give hibs the full Roseburn all our season ticket holders will be able to attend there’s no reason we shouldn’t give them the full stand. All that would happen is they would end up doing the same to us at new year. All the season ticket holders from the red zone were in the roseburn on Sunday I thought? If not there where would they go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just think this red zone thing is OTT. There are seats directly behind each dugout that are never sold. Can the subs not sit there with masks on? They go home to their families after the match and no doubt socialise with friends etc and go out to restaurants. Closing about half of the lower Main Stand seems rather extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Assuming those moved from the red zones can get seats in the other three stands then Hibs should get the full end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: All the season ticket holders from the red zone were in the roseburn on Sunday I thought? If not there where would they go? The other stands aren't sold out with season ticket holders so it would no doubt mean we're all put elsewhere for the derby game. Must be a logistical nightmare for the ticket office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, heartsfc_fan said: Just think this red zone thing is OTT. There are seats directly behind each dugout that are never sold. Can the subs not sit there with masks on? They go home to their families after the match and no doubt socialise with friends etc and go out to restaurants. Closing about half of the lower Main Stand seems rather extreme. I don't understand the distancing from fellow players in the stands. They train together, get changed in the same dressing room, go onto the park after games and shake hands/cuddle etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Aslong as we getting full stand for easter road give them full stand at Tynecastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: I don't understand the distancing from fellow players in the stands. They train together, get changed in the same dressing room, go onto the park after games and shake hands/cuddle etc. It's more to keep spectators away from players and officials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I think there should be mutual agreement/understanding by both clubs to give full stand for derbies for away fans. Happy to cut old firm tickets to annoy them them but think hibs/hearts there should be hatred but elemwnt mutual respect for the Edinburgh Derby that includes away allocation protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Disagree, our season ticket holders will fit inside the 3 stands plus extra for walk ups. Give Hibs the school end and don’t ruin the derby like the old firm have . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone1992 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, carnockjambo said: With the red zone affecting two stands and therefore reducing the overall stadium capacity might we reduce the away end V Hibs to 2/3 of Roseburn or 1/3. There were approx over 16,000 Hearts fans at the game on Sunday. If Hibs get full allocation then some Hearts fans may miss out on a ticket ? Season Ticket Holders would still get in so cant see us reducing their allocation. Also dont understand why we would want to. Derby Atmosphere is better with a full away stand at both Tynie and ER. Also we would have to put in segregation etc so would more than likely reduce overall capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, heartsfc_fan said: The other stands aren't sold out with season ticket holders so it would no doubt mean we're all put elsewhere for the derby game. Must be a logistical nightmare for the ticket office. Was it not that, the entire 2 lost sections were just copy/ pasted so everyone got to sit next to their same friends and families? Otherwise they’ll all be scattered into solo seats or small batches of seats around the other stand, which is a lot of hassle. I think if there’s a red zone then Hibs will get half the stand and we’ll leave it up to them if they want to tit for tat. It’s only due to the red zone we’re doing it so that may be the case at Easter road as well. Up to them what they do. They will get the full end when the stadium is at full capacity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Was it not that, the entire 2 lost sections were just copy/ pasted so everyone got to sit next to their same friends and families? Otherwise they’ll all be scattered into solo seats or small batches of seats around the other stand, which is a lot of hassle. Yep. I was moved. I sit with 2 others and we sat together plus we saw a few familiar faces who we usually sit by in the lower Main Stand which was nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I don’t mind them getting the whole stand. Gives me more greetin faces to wave goodbye to when we pump them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Full stand is better. More cash for the club too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 King ruined the weegie derby doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 i was moved to the Roseburn as well and this Red Zone is total pish they don't have this in England total sham. i'm happy to sit anywhere in the stadium and give Hibs the full stand we should all be accommodated within other areas sections Q R and D how many punters 600/700 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Let them have the whole stand. And the more confident they are the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Hate Hibs with a passion but it's got to be a full stand. Can't wait to see the reaction of our new boys, even last seasons recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Edinburgh Derby is the best fixture in Scotland, leave it be. The rest should only be given the top half of 1 section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 It's a tricky one, adding segregation would looses alot of sellable seats and will need additional stewarding. A full allocation for them would have to come with a guarantee that we would get the same at ER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Yeah give them the stand as we also want a full one down there, makes the atmosphere better as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Full stand if possible. Rangers ruined the old firm doing similar. Any season ticket holders moved should be in an alternative seat in main stand and not moved behind goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 No, Hibs get full end - it makes for a better atmosphere. We get full end when we go there. We are not the bigot brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Surely any gentlemans agreement went down the tubes last year with their vote. **** them give them half the stand. They wont retaliate as they need our money 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, carnockjambo said: With the red zone affecting two stands and therefore reducing the overall stadium capacity might we reduce the away end V Hibs to 2/3 of Roseburn or 1/3. There were approx over 16,000 Hearts fans at the game on Sunday. If Hibs get full allocation then some Hearts fans may miss out on a ticket ? Season ticket holders guaranteed a seat. Its the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Not for me, give them the full stand, makes for a better atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman9 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Really shouldn't be expecting young red zoned kids to sit in Roseburn next to segregation area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They will get the full end. Easier to steward/police. They will give us the whole end. The End ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Season ticket holders guaranteed a seat. Its the future. Dont see the problem. Crowd on Sunday 17400 Aberdeen fans 1400 An extra 2000 for Hibs fans Leaves 14000 for Hearts fans we only have 12500 ST holders. 1500 for a public sale, might even be more actually. Back to what it was before the New Stand was opened. As others have said the derby game is special and deserves a special atmosphere. It's not the same when nearly everyone is cheering for the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Oldest top flight derby in the world. The atmosphere and intense rivalry needs retained so I’d give them a full end if practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) I'd cut them back to half. More Hearts fans the better. If we can sell ours, we should put our own first. Suspect segregation would be an issue th. Get the corners filled in, then give them a corner only! Edited August 24, 2021 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 What's the Red Zone for? It always adds more atmosphere to the stadium when there is a big away support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Maroon Pound said: What's the Red Zone for? It always adds more atmosphere to the stadium when there is a big away support SFA rule to try and protect football staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 No way. Away fans are what football is all about. As long as Hibs continue to offer us the full stand then we should too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 No reduction. As many as them as possible to pay for the pleasure of seeing their side being put to the sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Give them the full stand, is there a way we could restrict the amount of concessions we give then though? Would rather as many of them pay £30+ as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 It won’t be a full stand in the true sense of the word anyway. I can see bottom two rows empty right along the stand and a closed off bit at the bottoms of H and M. Probably an allocation of around 2800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 sections more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 3,500 of them watching their team lose oh yes. Or whatever they are allowed. Edited August 24, 2021 by Turkishcap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I’m one of the displaced and sitting in the roseburn on Sunday was the pits, especially when looking at the spacing in blocks Q and R, there was two rows of seats directly behind the dug outs with no one in them, more than enough room to cater for the subs and coaches. Surround those areas with Perspex and wallah those displaced season ticket holders are back in the seats they have chosen to pay for. Another point, the press were inside the “red zone” how come? The red zones are a farce. Really, what’s the point of the one round the wheatfield tunnel, the away staff hardly hang around in that area for 15 minutes, they are no further away from the crowd who are sitting in the front row all round the touch lines. A bit of a rant of my chest but I really didn’t like being sat next to sheep, it will be even more painful if I’m sat in the roseburn for the hibs game. Get it Sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Shanks said: Give them the full stand, is there a way we could restrict the amount of concessions we give then though? Would rather as many of them pay £30+ as possible. They would do the same, I got a student ticket for every game I go to down there 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, jambo-in-furness said: I’m one of the displaced and sitting in the roseburn on Sunday was the pits, especially when looking at the spacing in blocks Q and R, there was two rows of seats directly behind the dug outs with no one in them, more than enough room to cater for the subs and coaches. Surround those areas with Perspex and wallah those displaced season ticket holders are back in the seats they have chosen to pay for. Another point, the press were inside the “red zone” how come? The red zones are a farce. Really, what’s the point of the one round the wheatfield tunnel, the away staff hardly hang around in that area for 15 minutes, they are no further away from the crowd who are sitting in the front row all round the touch lines. A bit of a rant of my chest but I really didn’t like being sat next to sheep, it will be even more painful if I’m sat in the roseburn for the hibs game. Get it Sorted Well said, if the incompetent JRG cant get the job done we will need to do it. Let’s hope our season ticket cards work and they have the full kiosks in the main stand open with more than Mince pies, water and Capri sun on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Shanks said: Give them the full stand, is there a way we could restrict the amount of concessions we give then though? Would rather as many of them pay £30+ as possible. That’s wrong on so many counts, ageism and disability for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Maroon Pound said: What's the Red Zone for? It always adds more atmosphere to the stadium when there is a big away support It’s all explained here. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/6752/scottish-fa-return-to-playing-brochure.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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