Ray Gin Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, XB52 said: Oh dear 😂😂😂😂 You can tell they are getting twitchy bums. Referendum agreed with the greens by 2023. Tick tock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 15 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Giving people free things is always going to be a success. Free! Nothing given away for free is actually free. Someone has to pay and that someone is the Scottish taxpayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 This is quite a risky move for the Greens. They'll need to play this quite clever at times. Definitely the most interesting development in Scottish politics for a while though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Mate you lot have been foaming since 2014. Every day you get out of bed only to realise you are still British, something you hate. Add in Brexit and the Tories and those folk are raging constantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Lights off at the Raith game only 15 mins in. Welcome to our greener Scotland Could be the way ahead. Save electricity by cutting football from 45 minutes per half, to say, 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jamstomorrow said: Would not surprise me if they bring out a law that you have to switch off engines if your vehicle come to a halt for more than a few seconds. No idling . . . . although if the greens get their way, lots of oil industry workers will be idle. You mean like most cars already do automatically?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Norm said: But they won't. So that just leaves the rest of us. It's a shit state of affairs that we have to take the burden, but if we don't, we'll be ****ed even sooner. Although, personally, I'm still hoping we'll crack nuclear fusion in my lifetime and most of these issues will disappear. You could be right, but I suspect the word 'nuclear' will have the greens apoplectic and wetting their panties at the thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: You can tell they are getting twitchy bums. Referendum agreed with the greens by 2023. Tick tock. Won’t happen. I am willing to put a wager on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: You mean like most cars already do automatically?? Which you can override!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Won’t happen. I am willing to put a wager on that. Talk is cheap, get yourself down to the bookies old boy and see if you can make yourself a few quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Won’t happen. I am willing to put a wager on that. The can has been well and truly toe bashed right down the road. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Add in Brexit and the Tories and those folk are raging constantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: You can tell they are getting twitchy bums. Referendum agreed with the greens by 2023. Tick tock. Haha a pretendy referendum 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Mate you lot have been foaming since 2014. Every day you get out of bed only to realise you are still British, something you hate. I don't get this British thing. Scottish, English and Welsh will be British whether there's a UK or not. Great Britain and it's isles. What most Scots do hate are English people like you (Going by the Euros), telling them what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deke Thornton said: Will achieve 99% pro-Indy vote, after a 30% turnout. Don't vote and that's your problem if you lose. How many voted for Brexit, 37%? Edited August 21, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, XB52 said: I love the fact that a sensible agreement to govern our country has the unionists foaming at the mouth. This place is actually tame compared to twitter; it's hilarious I can assure you, I ain't no Unionist. The SNP have never needed a coalition, so why now. Cop26, or some other shite they need the Greens for. As for Indy, why would the Greens vote against a referendum without a coalition. Some bullshit is getting put on everyone, very soon. Edited August 21, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 hours ago, EH11 said: Talk is cheap, get yourself down to the bookies old boy and see if you can make yourself a few quid. He's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I love it when the boys all rock up en masse circle jerking themselves senseless that the union will prevail. It's dying boys. You're living through history. The break up the UK is well and truly underway. The momentum will not be reversed and through our lifetimes Ireland will be reunified and Scotland will be independent. The pace of change is yet to be decided. 10-15 more years of the Tory crime empire in charge and the pace will quicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: Add in Brexit and the Tories and those folk are raging constantly Why are Brexit and the Tories glorious? Brexit will wreck the UK economy and the Tories are stealing ever penny they can from you and I and everyone else without a care in the world, yet Scotland being destroyed by them is worth it. Yet you argue Scottish independence is the bad part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I can assure you, I ain't no Unionist. The SNP have never needed a coalition, so why now. Cop26, or some other shite they need the Greens for. As for Indy, why would the Greens vote against a referendum without a coalition. Some bullshit is getting put on everyone, very soon. Honestly I couldn't care less what you think. I've said all along that, with the crap you post, that you were just a unionist troll trying to make Scottish nationalists look bad. If you are against this arrangement then that's my theory confirmed. You may of course be an Alba supporter but they are on the side of the unionists now too so no real difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 It's not a coalition. It's a power sharing deal. Greens get 2 ministers in government this time instead of just getting some policies on the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Harry Potter said: Be handy on St Johns road , corstorphine, most polluted road in scotland, well so they say. The Loony Nats contributed to that with gridlock caused by spaces for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: I don't get this British thing. Scottish, English and Welsh will be British whether there's a UK or not. Great Britain and it's isles. What most Scots do hate are English people like you (Going by the Euros), telling them what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryheart Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: I can assure you, I ain't no Unionist. The SNP have never needed a coalition, so why now. Cop26, or some other shite they need the Greens for. As for Indy, why would the Greens vote against a referendum without a coalition. Some bullshit is getting put on everyone, very soon. I have to agree with this. Call it what you want - coalition, power sharing or whatever - unless I've missed something the real winner is the Greens. It could get very messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The greens will have even less power than the lib dems did when they had a coalition with the Tories. Effectively feck all. However at least the parties are more politically aligned in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: I can assure you, I ain't no Unionist. The SNP have never needed a coalition, so why now. Cop26, or some other shite they need the Greens for. As for Indy, why would the Greens vote against a referendum without a coalition. Some bullshit is getting put on everyone, very soon. Its curious because the key work is renewable energy which is going pretty well. Oil field controversies depend on the alternatives crucially avoiding fossil fuel imports. The more difficult personal changes in terms of electric cars and replacing gas boilers need investment in the charging and subsidies. More about money than policy. But we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: The greens will have even less power than the lib dems did when they had a coalition with the Tories. Effectively feck all. However at least the parties are more politically aligned in this instance. Fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: I don't think any of this, is anything to do with an independence referendum, the numbers were there already to get it through parliament, no this power sharing/coalition or whatever you want to call it, is all about Cop26. I fully expect a major announcement/policy from the Scottish government, either just prior to or more likely during Cop26 and it'll come from a Green MSP cabinet minister, thus giving it more credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I don't think any of this, is anything to do with an independence referendum, the numbers were there already to get it through parliament, no this power sharing/coalition or whatever you want to call it, is all about Cop26. I fully expect a major announcement/policy from the Scottish government, either just prior to or more likely during Cop26 and it'll come from a Green MSP cabinet minister, thus giving it more credibility. Is that not a good thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ked said: Is that not a good thing ? Did I say it wasn't? Have to wait and see if there is a major policy announcement and what it acually is, then again there might not be anything new, not long to wait to find out either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said: Did I say it wasn't? Have to wait and see if there is a major policy announcement and what it acually is, then again there might not be anything new, not long to wait to find out either way. No.Thats why I asked . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I don't think any of this, is anything to do with an independence referendum, the numbers were there already to get it through parliament, no this power sharing/coalition or whatever you want to call it, is all about Cop26. I fully expect a major announcement/policy from the Scottish government, either just prior to or more likely during Cop26 and it'll come from a Green MSP cabinet minister, thus giving it more credibility. It's not glaringly obvious yet what the point of it is. The Greens have been backing up the SNP for a long time now, so it can't be about the numbers. There must be something more in it for the Greens than just a couple of junior ministerial posts. The risk is too great for just that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheile Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Never mind the political ramifications, Lorna Slater is tidy. Would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Works out on a trapeze so she is bendy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) On 21/08/2021 at 09:24, Ray Gin said: You can tell they are getting twitchy bums. Referendum agreed with the greens by 2023. Tick tock. I'll vote no again because of 5 things: 1. Economy is even weaker than it was in 2014 and could not support independence. We need to adapt to Brexit & recover from Covid before any of that can change. 2. Sturgeon plans to do a Farage and disappear over the horizon to make money for herself as soon as she gets independence and there is no depth of talent in the SNP as far as I can see. 3. It hasn't been long enough since the last time. 4. The only intelligent people I know who support the SNP do it because "it will remove the collective chip in our shoulder and force us to stand on our own 2 feet". I think that is a weak basis for likely 70-100 years of extreme economic pain... 5. Geographically we are not important to the EU. We are a pimple on its backside whether we are in or out, and a big inconvenience like NI is to the UK now... Edited August 22, 2021 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Cheile said: Never mind the political ramifications, Lorna Slater is tidy. Would. Please, go now and save yourself before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 17 hours ago, Ray Gin said: The greens will have even less power than the lib dems did when they had a coalition with the Tories. Effectively feck all. However at least the parties are more politically aligned in this instance. Depends how much Sturgeon wants stuff rushed through without too much scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cheile said: Never mind the political ramifications, Lorna Slater is tidy. Would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Cheile said: Never mind the political ramifications, Lorna Slater is tidy. Would. In a thread of extreme views this is surely the most controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 SNP quieten the Greens on an independence referendum by going into coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Tackling poverty, Drug abuse, and the economy, no, let's have men using women's toilets. Just cause they suddenly feel like it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Tackling poverty, Drug abuse, and the economy, no, let's have men using women's toilets. Just cause they suddenly feel like it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I think this is where we are. Limits of Green influence at the margins over the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: I think this is where we are. Limits of Green influence at the margins over the environment. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 23/08/2021 at 07:28, ri Alban said: Tackling poverty, Drug abuse, and the economy, no, let's have men using women's toilets. Just cause they suddenly feel like it . Priorities my man! These issues you mention can wait while wee Johnny at the nursery decides whether he wants to sit down or stand. Hopefully not at the same one oor Humza is claiming his latest settlement from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: I think this is where we are. Limits of Green influence at the margins over the environment. Greens selling out already ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Two extremist minority parties join forces- I think us normal working Scots have every right to be concerned. Also two parties who don’t have any experience or track record in running a successful economy (with the Greens being openly against economic gains). It staggers me that anyone could vote for either, unless of course you are a believer in one policy politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, loveofthegame said: Two extremist minority parties join forces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, loveofthegame said: Two extremist minority parties join forces- I think us normal working Scots have every right to be concerned. Also two parties who don’t have any experience or track record in running a successful economy (with the Greens being openly against economic gains). It staggers me that anyone could vote for either, unless of course you are a believer in one policy politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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