JudyJudyJudy Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 14:14, JackLadd said: No knee taken by Welsh or Swiss. Why are Scotland doing this again? Well most counties are. I don’t have an issue with it . If it highlights a serious issue why not ,? However it should not be compulsory for individuals if they so wish not to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Well most counties are. I don’t have an issue with it . If it highlights a serious issue why not ,? However it should not be compulsory for individuals if they so wish not to No they are not. North Mac and Austria did not. I like how the beeb zoomed in on England players to avoid the fact Croatia did not kneel btw. My mate Cade no doubt heartily approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, JackLadd said: No they are not. North Mac and Austria did not. I like how the beeb zoomed in on England players to avoid the fact Croatia did not kneel btw. My mate Cade no doubt heartily approved. If allowed in the stadium will you boo the Hearts players taking a knee ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: If allowed in the stadium will you boo the Hearts players taking a knee ? No, but I won't condemn any that do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: I’ll boo the shit ones potentially a few boos there then. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, JackLadd said: No they are not. North Mac and Austria did not. I like how the beeb zoomed in on England players to avoid the fact Croatia did not kneel btw. My mate Cade no doubt heartily approved. Ok ! Didn’t know That just assumed they did . Not in the slightest interest in it really to be honest either way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: I’ll boo the shit ones Our big problem is sectarianism which our authorities are frightened to deal with , Also when does taking the knee end ? Its all a load of pish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 It’s so boring now, more coverage about taking a knee than about the actual football it’s embarrassing. If people can express an opinion and take the knee then people can express an opinion and boo it. I’d probably boo it just to annoy all the virtue signalling warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Shanks said: It’s so boring now, more coverage about taking a knee than about the actual football it’s embarrassing. If people can express an opinion and take the knee then people can express an opinion and boo it. I’d probably boo it just to annoy all the virtue signalling warriors. What gets me is Scotland have been ordered to kneel with the Welsh by some unknown edict from on high. Btw you could turn your back and not look. I might go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, JackLadd said: What gets me is Scotland have been ordered to kneel with the Welsh by some unknown edict from on high. Btw you could turn your back and not look. I might go that route. So what was getting you before that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Smithee said: So what was getting you before that? Just you Smithee lad. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Taffin said: They've devalued it by making a song and dance over those who don't do it. It should have been a period of time where (one or two rounds of fixtures) where they have BLM on the shirts and everyone did it and then back to individual choice. Colin Kaepernick doing it was a really powerful piece of symbolism, as was footballers doing it at first. Once it becomes every game, every player it just pales into part of the routine. Maybe that is what has happened and it's just everyone still feels they want to do it, and that's great, however the Scotland team's stance on it suggests that's not what's happened. Either they believe in it and as such should do it in all our games, or they don't. Doing it for just the England game trivialises it and does make it political imo. They're doing it solely to be seen to do it. Had they stood as we have done in other games and then taken a knee if the booing started when England did it, then that would have been a far, far more powerful statement. A bit like the annual poppy nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: You think the poor in this country aren't dehumanised? Whether they're black, white or whichever, people should start thinking about them. The likes of Thatcher and now Boris didn't/don't give a feck which colour the poor were/are in the UK, she bulldozed them all and so will he. There's other threads you can take this discussion down. Not every thread exists for you to tell people how bad the Tories are. 1 hour ago, JackLadd said: What gets me is Scotland have been ordered to kneel with the Welsh by some unknown edict from on high. Btw you could turn your back and not look. I might go that route. Imagine being this triggered. What a snowflake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 No Dutch or Ukraine knee. That's one knee out of six today by wokeland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 The only objection I have is when people are accused of being racist or soft on racism if they don't make the gesture. It also looks to me faintly silly (even rather subservient) in contrast with my vivid memory of the two US athletes raised fist gesture 53 years ago on the medal podium at the Olympics. So called Black Panther gesture but really meant as a Civil Rights gesture. That was a far more powerful gesture and in a very unwoke world a much braver one. I was heavily into James Baldwin then and fully approved. I think when the likes of Keir Starmer and Naismith take the knee it looks particularly silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Irony alert Friday evening when people applaud taking the knee followed by "et into they English/Scottish bassas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 21:58, Nunya Business said: That's the crux of the matter as well. Halfwits (not you) saying they should stop and do something else without actually suggesting what they should do instead. And mentioning other anti-racist initiatives (that haven't done enough themselves) as if that should be enough for the ingrates. I just don't see why anyone would have any complaints. It's a 5 second symbolic gesture that does no harm to anyone. If they all wore bowler hats and sashes and played flutes, I bet a lot of the people moaning would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Taffin said: Had they stood as we have done in other games and then taken a knee if the booing started when England did it, then that would have been a far, far more powerful statement. I would've absolutely loved this to have happened. 3 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: If they all wore bowler hats and sashes and played flutes, I bet a lot of the people moaning would love it. We can only dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 17 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said: Our big problem is sectarianism which our authorities are frightened to deal with , Also when does taking the knee end ? Its all a load of pish ! Correct, sweep sweep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 17:05, Smithee said: So, you were schooling me on Marxism. What is Marxism exactly, and what aspects of it particularly shine through in BLM for you? Marxism was quite funny. I thought Groucho was funny, but that galloot with the horn was kind of annoying. I don't know what they have to do with blm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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