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£130,104    Slightly down on last months total. £1,736 to be precise.

 

another amazing amount contributed by the greatest fans in the world during a pandemic. 

Brings the total contributions to £11,953,893 

 

Lots of positive news coming from Hearts, with the takeover coming closer and Ann Budge handing over more responsibility to others also Mr James Anderson coming on board which can only be a good thing. 

 

Have a a great summer everyone 

we are back where we belong. 

 

Cmon the famous. 

🇱🇻♥️🇱🇻

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The next 12 months will require FoH support to be significant IMO when season ticket costs are vastly reduced. 

 

The club will likely have less season ticket income so we need supporters to back FoH whether through fans re-instating pledges or increasing them. 

 

Takes a couple of minutes to increase your pledge - log in, go to your account info and click the "Increase your pledge by £1" picture. Then go to your email and click on the link to approve the update.

 

https://www.foundationofhearts.org

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21 minutes ago, novoman said:

£130,104    Slightly down on last months total. £1,736 to be precise.

 

another amazing amount contributed by the greatest fans in the world during a pandemic. 

Brings the total contributions to £11,953,893 

 

Lots of positive news coming from Hearts, with the takeover coming closer and Ann Budge handing over more responsibility to others also Mr James Anderson coming on board which can only be a good thing. 

 

Have a a great summer everyone 

we are back where we belong. 

 

Cmon the famous. 

🇱🇻♥️🇱🇻

 

Actually thought it would have been lower than that so well done all round for keeping faith. Don't want it to turn this into a debate but I wonder what the figure would have been if we'd had a new management team in place.

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Pasquale for King
24 minutes ago, JWL said:

 

Actually thought it would have been lower than that so well done all round for keeping faith. Don't want it to turn this into a debate but I wonder what the figure would have been if we'd had a new management team in place.

Indeed. That’s around 200 pledges down is it not, it would be good if we were told that figure. 

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davemclaren
14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Indeed. That’s around 200 pledges down is it not, it would be good if we were told that figure. 

Less if you base it on the average pledge. 

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Pasquale for King
3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Less if you base it on the average pledge. 

Which is?

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51 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

The next 12 months will require FoH support to be significant IMO when season ticket costs are vastly reduced. 

 

The club will likely have less season ticket income so we need supporters to back FoH whether through fans re-instating pledges or increasing them. 

 

Takes a couple of minutes to increase your pledge - log in, go to your account info and click the "Increase your pledge by £1" picture. Then go to your email and click on the link to approve the update.

 

https://www.foundationofhearts.org

I'll double mine when I see Ann Budge being less involved.

 

I'd sooner she stepped back completely and let footballing people run our club.

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davemclaren
1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

Which is?

£16.26 assuming 8,000 members. So that sort of ballpark. 

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Pasquale for King
1 minute ago, davemclaren said:

£16.26 assuming 8,000 members. So that sort of ballpark. 

That’s why I said around 200, a drop of about 2% in pledges. Let’s hope that doesn’t carry on. 

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39 minutes ago, JWL said:

 

Actually thought it would have been lower than that so well done all round for keeping faith. Don't want it to turn this into a debate but I wonder what the figure would have been if we'd had a new management team in place.

 

I threatened to reduce my sub, but I couldn't do that to my team. May even increase instead. Onwards and upwards. HHGH FTH 

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Midloth_Iain
6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

That’s why I said around 200, a drop of about 2% in pledges. Let’s hope that doesn’t carry on. 

 

98% of membership still pledging. In a pandemic.

 

Bloody miraculous if you ask me. 

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8 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

That’s why I said around 200, a drop of about 2% in pledges. Let’s hope that doesn’t carry on. 

£1736 is a drop of 107 ‘average members’. 
 

£1736 is a 1.32% drop from last month. 

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3 minutes ago, Midloth_Iain said:

 

98% of membership still pledging. In a pandemic.

 

Bloody miraculous if you ask me. 

Absolutely, Debbie Downers will still abound, gratifying their own misery

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Pasquale for King
3 minutes ago, Midloth_Iain said:

 

98% of membership still pledging. In a pandemic.

 

Bloody miraculous if you ask me. 

You think? Pledges went up for months last summer, they’ve been up for over a year, you think the 2% drop has anything to do with the pandemic? 
They might well keep dropping whilst this regime and it’s apologists refuse to facilitate any meaningful change. 

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5 minutes ago, Midloth_Iain said:

 

98% of membership still pledging. In a pandemic.

 

Bloody miraculous if you ask me. 


It is truly wonderful. 

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Pasquale for King
4 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

£1736 is a drop of 107 ‘average members’. 
 

£1736 is a 1.32% drop from last month. 

I’m sure the FoH could tell us those actual figures to save you bashing your calculator instead of averages that mean extremely little. 

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3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I’m sure the FoH could tell us those actual figures to save you bashing your calculator instead of averages that mean extremely little. 

They don’t seem to fit your agenda that’s for sure. The 1.32% drop is a fact though. Assuming FoH don’t make up the numbers. 

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Last è-mail I’ve got in my inbox from FOH states a drop of 250 pledges, saying that’s approx 3% of pledgers from a total of 8100.

Not a criticism of any kind from me tho. Fantastic numbers and hitting over £12M next month.

Incredible. Well done, folks.

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Pasquale for King
2 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

They don’t seem to fit your agenda that’s for sure. The 1.32% drop is a fact though. Assuming FoH don’t make up the numbers. 

It’s not a fact it’s an average, there’s a reason they won’t disclose the actual number of pledges. A £1736 drop doesn’t seem much compared £130k. 
As for my agenda, demanding the best from the club in all aspects is  something others might well think of doing. It might stop us wasting this money time and time again.  

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1 minute ago, Boab said:

Last è-mail I’ve got in my inbox from FOH states a drop of 250 pledges, saying that’s approx 3% of pledgers from a total of 8100.

Not a criticism of any kind from me tho. Fantastic numbers and hitting over £12M next month.

Incredible. Well done, folks.

👏

I don’t think I’ve had one for a while, thanks for that. 

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

I don’t think I’ve had one for a while, thanks for that. 

You must have if you’re a pledger. That one was dated April 1st.

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davemclaren
4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

It’s not a fact it’s an average, there’s a reason they won’t disclose the actual number of pledges. A £1736 drop doesn’t seem much compared £130k. 
As for my agenda, demanding the best from the club in all aspects is  something others might well think of doing. It might stop us wasting this money time and time again.  

That number is a fact as it doesn’t need knowledge of the number of members to calculate the percentage reduction in amount.
 

 

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Do the foundation actually pass the money onto the club straight away or do they hold it for a time, is this figure actual contributions from last month or is it contributions from say Jan or Feb now being passed onto the club, do the foundation hold a balance?

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7 minutes ago, Tiger said:

Do the foundation actually pass the money onto the club straight away or do they hold it for a time, is this figure actual contributions from last month or is it contributions from say Jan or Feb now being passed onto the club, do the foundation hold a balance?

They keep a small amount for expenses as I understand it. 

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35 minutes ago, Marvin said:

 

I threatened to reduce my sub, but I couldn't do that to my team. May even increase instead. Onwards and upwards. HHGH FTH 

 

Yeah, same here but had to look at the bigger picture. May increase once Mrs Budge steps back and lets football people run the football club.

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Pasquale for King
13 minutes ago, Boab said:

You must have if you’re a pledger. That one was dated April 1st.

I must’ve deleted it, nothing in my mail. 

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Pasquale for King
15 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

That number is a fact as it doesn’t need knowledge of the number of members to calculate the percentage reduction in amount.
 

 

Yes the money is, your average pledgers figure isn’t a fact. 
Nothing to add to the others points on my agenda, good stuff. 

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The "average" number of pledgers during 2019/20 was 7873.  We also know that numbers grew considerably during the summer, peaking around 8,500. The largest fall was in the wake of the Scottish Cup farce (c. 250?).

 

Contributions during May of last year were £121,473, so £130,810 is actually 7% up year on year.

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10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Yes the money is, your average pledgers figure isn’t a fact. 
Nothing to add to the others points on my agenda, good stuff. 

Nope, praying you get the numbers you want. 😄

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From the Herald in December 2020.

 

And Wallace, chairman of FoH, has saluted the Hearts fans for their role in continuing to help the club out during hard times.

 

He said: “We saw a surge in pledges when the SPFL did what they were doing to the club last season and we got up to about 8,500, and clearly the money tends to rise with that.

 

“So, we’ve been quite comfortable handing over about £140,000 a month at the moment, which amounts to £1.68 million a year. That’s the sort of run rate for it.

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1 hour ago, Marvin said:

 

I threatened to reduce my sub, but I couldn't do that to my team. May even increase instead. Onwards and upwards. HHGH FTH 

Snap. It isn't an uber fan thing either. I actually admire folk who have drawn a line after the awful decline in on field displays over 4 years +

 

They have acted to illustrate their concerns. Nobody has the right to pass comment on others £€£€£ and how they see fit to use that.

 

Anyways, can't help but feel emotional and happy at such threads 🤩😍🥰

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4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

From the Herald in December 2020.

 

And Wallace, chairman of FoH, has saluted the Hearts fans for their role in continuing to help the club out during hard times.

 

He said: “We saw a surge in pledges when the SPFL did what they were doing to the club last season and we got up to about 8,500, and clearly the money tends to rise with that.

 

“So, we’ve been quite comfortable handing over about £140,000 a month at the moment, which amounts to £1.68 million a year. That’s the sort of run rate for it.

He hasn’t stuck his head about the parapet when they’ve dropped though, all about the good news it seems. If he did he would need to explain why they’ve dropped. 

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37 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

He hasn’t stuck his head about the parapet when they’ve dropped though, all about the good news it seems. If he did he would need to explain why they’ve dropped. 

He has. C’mon, mate, we’ve just discussed the April 1st statement. At least acknowledge he has announced drops as well as rises.

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Pasquale for King
6 minutes ago, Boab said:

He has. C’mon, mate, we’ve just discussed the April 1st statement. At least acknowledge he has announced drops as well as rises.

He didn’t discuss the reasons in any great detail though did he? I wonder if they will after this? He’s a hand picked lap dog that has actually admitted he can’t challenge or criticise Budge. 

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5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

He didn’t discuss the reasons in any great detail though did he? I wonder if they will after this? He’s a hand picked lap dog that has actually admitted he can’t challenge or criticise Budge. 

I don’t think he’ll say anything much after a 1.32% monthly drop in the amount pledged. It would be good to get an update on the number of pledgers though to improve my modelling for the next month’s thread. 

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5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

He didn’t discuss the reasons in any great detail though did he? I wonder if they will after this? He’s a hand picked lap dog that has actually admitted he can’t challenge or criticise Budge. 

So you want more detail ?

With respect, mate, have you read the April statement ? 
Maybe someone can link it and then discuss whether he is a lap dog or not.

I’m hopeless at that shit. Anyone ?

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Just now, davemclaren said:

I don’t think he’ll say anything much after a 1.32% monthly drop in the amount pledged. It would be good to get an update on the number of pledgers though to improve my modelling for the next month’s thread. 

Yeah that’s definitely the most important thing. 

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

Yeah that’s definitely the most important thing. 

You’re the one that asked for the membership numbers. I agree it would give a useful insight. 

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Pasquale for King
3 minutes ago, Boab said:

So you want more detail ?

With respect, mate, have you read the April statement ? 
Maybe someone can link it and then discuss whether he is a lap dog or not.

I’m hopeless at that shit. Anyone ?

This one? 
The statement is like something folk that have no say in the process would say, we take control shortly. 
Unacceptable performances like this in the future will lead us to act on the wishes of our members, might well have stopped the continual haemorrhaging of pledgers from the high of 8500.  
https://www.foundationofhearts.org/statement-from-the-foh-board/

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3 hours ago, Mysterion said:

The next 12 months will require FoH support to be significant IMO when season ticket costs are vastly reduced. 

 

The club will likely have less season ticket income so we need supporters to back FoH whether through fans re-instating pledges or increasing them. 

 

Takes a couple of minutes to increase your pledge - log in, go to your account info and click the "Increase your pledge by £1" picture. Then go to your email and click on the link to approve the update.

 

https://www.foundationofhearts.org

And I’d add that if there is a drop in Season Ticket numbers it can be mitigated by Robbie Neilson and the team performing on the pitch and having crowds flocking to Tynecastle in their thousands bringing in much needed money to help Hearts to become the team we know they should be. 

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Pasquale for King
21 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

You’re the one that asked for the membership numbers. I agree it would give a useful insight. 

Yeah I was interested in those figures, not your calculations. 

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18 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

This one? 
The statement is like something folk that have no say in the process would say, we take control shortly. 
Unacceptable performances like this in the future will lead us to act on the wishes of our members, might well have stopped the continual haemorrhaging of pledgers from the high of 8500.  
https://www.foundationofhearts.org/statement-from-the-foh-board/

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A tad overdramatic. 
 

haemorrhage
/ˈhɛmərɪdʒ/
 
verb
gerund or present participle: hemorrhaging
  1. (of a person) suffer a haemorrhage.
    "he had begun haemorrhaging in the night"
    • lose or expend large amounts of (something valuable) in a seemingly uncontrollable way.
      "the business was haemorrhaging cash"
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1 minute ago, davemclaren said:

A tad overdramatic. 
 

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gerund or present participle: hemorrhaging
  1. (of a person) suffer a haemorrhage.
    "he had begun haemorrhaging in the night"
    • lose or expend large amounts of (something valuable) in a seemingly uncontrollable way.
      "the business was haemorrhaging cash"

Trying to use big words to keep my mind ticking over, sorry you had to google it 😆

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22 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

This one? 
The statement is like something folk that have no say in the process would say, we take control shortly. 
Unacceptable performances like this in the future will lead us to act on the wishes of our members, might well have stopped the continual haemorrhaging of pledgers from the high of 8500.  
https://www.foundationofhearts.org/statement-from-the-foh-board/

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No, not that one. The e-mail to pledgers on April 1st.

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2 hours ago, Midloth_Iain said:

 

98% of membership still pledging. In a pandemic.

 

Bloody miraculous if you ask me. 

It’s amazing 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻

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Pasquale for King
1 minute ago, Boab said:

No, not that one. The e-mail to pledgers on April 1st.

Sorry couldn’t find anything else on its social media. 
I must’ve read it at the time. 
 

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1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

Sorry couldn’t find anything else on its social media. 
I must’ve read it at the time. 
 

FOUNDATION UPDATE

Dear Member

As we are all aware, the last week or so has been a difficult time for all Hearts fans. Through that, though, we are really grateful to everyone who contacted us over the last few days. As ever, it is invaluable to hear your range of views. We have tried to respond to emails but the volume has been huge, so our apologies if you haven’t had a reply.

There have been some recurring themes in the messages we received, so in addition to giving you an update on where we are with pledge numbers, we thought it would be helpful to address these in a general update to Foundation members.

First, a number of pledgers who have been in touch with us have attacked the Foundation for not representing the views, as they see it, of Foundation members and for not making these views clear to the club. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our communications with the club reflect the strength of feelings that pledgers have brought to us and is passed on with no diluting of the emotions expressed. This does not fall on deaf ears - and of course, the club itself hears from fans and is well aware of people’s many opinions. We are able to supplement that and can also report on pledge numbers.

Equally, the views of Foundation members inform and shape the standpoint of those who represent the Foundation on the club board.

We have also been attacked by some for – to put it bluntly – not firing the manager. As most pledgers understand, the Foundation does not run the club. It is right and proper that the club board makes the final management calls, and it is right and proper that the Foundation - through communicating with the club and through our representatives on the board - aims to inform and influence strategies and decision-making. That is what we have done and that’s what we will continue to do when the Foundation becomes the majority shareholder of the club. The Foundation has always put forward the message of fan owned, not fan run. Foundation members overwhelmingly sanctioned the governance model which has this concept at its heart and it remains a pillar of the organisation’s structure.

Sadly we must also mention that there has been a level of vitriol and abuse in some of the emails and other communications which is intolerable. This type of attack has also been visited on club officials and staff and we utterly condemn it. Equating passion for a club with this kind of behaviour is totally misplaced. Passion for a club comes in many shapes and forms but abusing others, many of whom are working on a voluntary basis, is most certainly not one of them.

Looking ahead, the board is considering ways in which debate among Foundation members can be encouraged and structured. As mentioned above, we are very appreciative of members taking the time to bring us their views and constructive advice, and we will shortly be looking to create a new post - a director of members affairs - which, we believe, will help the communication process, but we are certainly open to other positive developments on this issue.

Meanwhile, to update you on pledge numbers and activity, we have seen in recent days around 250 cancellations of pledges. That equates to approximately 3 per cent of the membership. We’ve also seen some new pledgers coming on board and that range of activity leaves us with a total number of current pledgers today of just over 8100.  

It is in times of real pressure or challenge that individuals and organisations reveal their true character. This was the case when our club faced possible extinction. The character of the supporters then was unbelievable and has paved the way for the most successful fan initiative in British footballing history. We thank everyone who has been involved in this and who, by pledging, continues to lay the platform for a better future for Heart of Midlothian.

Kind regards

Stuart Wallace, Alastair Bruce, Paul Cheshire, Donald Cumming, Garry Halliday and Louise Strutt
 

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6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Trying to use big words to keep my mind ticking over, sorry you had to google it 😆

I thought I should get a dictionary definition as you seem not to understand it. 

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