cosanostra Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I think Gordon is a way better goalie than Marshall but Marshall still deserves the jersey after the penalty save. Would be incredibly harsh to deny him the chance to start the first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, cosanostra said: I think Gordon is a way better goalie than Marshall but Marshall still deserves the jersey after the penalty save. Would be incredibly harsh to deny him the chance to start the first game. Marshall hasn’t been playing lately. Got to go with the fitter player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Stendelnator said: Even St Johnstone fans don’t rate him that highly. He’s a cult hero because he scored a goal in a top season for them. The three goalkeepers in the squad are our best available. Fair enough thanks for your reply. I just think it's better to have a guy in the squad that's at least played football in the last season rather than take a guy who has just been sat on his arse all year. Take Ross Stewart at Hearts for example, he hadn't played all season and then plays against Brora and has a stinker. Or may be it's because he really is mince! EDIT: just seen your post above about Gordon/Marshall, that's exactly the point lm trying to make. Take the fitter guy. Edited June 2, 2021 by will-i-am-a-jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, cosanostra said: I think Gordon is a way better goalie than Marshall but Marshall still deserves the jersey after the penalty save. Would be incredibly harsh to deny him the chance to start the first game. Since that penalty save Marshall has been dropped by his club because he was playing poorly, he has made errors resulting in goals whilst playing for Scotland. Gordon has had 8 clean sheets in a row for club and country, including some cracking saves for Scotland. It would been an act of national self harm, to pick the poorer keeper in any circumstances, to pick the poorer keeper when he's completely out of form would be madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, JamboX2 said: Thought the press release on Fleck had said that they were all negative returns aside from him? Depending on when the players were in contact with each other, it could take a couple of days before the other players would test positive (if they also have caught it). Hopefully we get away with this, but if 5 or 6 players were to test positive, we're running out of time until the first game! Aside from everyone going into self isolation for the next 12 days or so, there isn't much we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, cosanostra said: I think Gordon is a way better goalie than Marshall but Marshall still deserves the jersey after the penalty save. Would be incredibly harsh to deny him the chance to start the first game. He's done nothing since that save He's jumpier than a cat in a Korean kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1874 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 players out tonight. Gordon playing a silver lining but no RB. Guessing Forrest will play there. Or maybe Tierney there in a 4 Great start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, R1874 said: 7 players out tonight. Gordon playing a silver lining but no RB. Guessing Forrest will play there. Or maybe Tierney there in a 4 Great start I'd seen 6 reported. Would assume he lines up: Gordon Hendry Cooper McKenna Forrest Armstrong McTominay Turnbull Robertson Christie Dykes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, JamboX2 said: I'd seen 6 reported. Would assume he lines up: Gordon Hendry Cooper McKenna Forrest Armstrong McTominay Turnbull Robertson Christie Dykes Scary when you consider the strength of Englands squad. I know its the good old "great individuals but shite team" stuff with England but i genuinely think this is the strongest England side i've ever seen. We will have to play out our skins to get anything from our group. On a side note how come the only game England won't play at Wembley would be the quarter finals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 151 said: Scary when you consider the strength of Englands squad. I know its the good old "great individuals but shite team" stuff with England but i genuinely think this is the strongest England side i've ever seen. We will have to play out our skins to get anything from our group. On a side note how come the only game England won't play at Wembley would be the quarter finals? Just realised Tierney is fit. So you would imagine him in place of McKenna or Hendry. The issue between us and England will always be there in terms of squad depth. Both here and other sports. All about the right set up and performance for Scotland. Think Clarke had a good system and the players he has selected know it well. So can only hope we perform as well as we need to. Minimal aim should be a win and a draw in the group as that could see us come third. Best hope is 2 wins. Mildly optimistic it can be done. The team is a good team. But for the groups I would feel better with McGinn, Adams and SOD being available. Never realised that on their fixtures. Better teams in the competition than them. Not too concerned. Edited June 2, 2021 by JamboX2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, 151 said: Scary when you consider the strength of Englands squad. I know its the good old "great individuals but shite team" stuff with England but i genuinely think this is the strongest England side i've ever seen. We will have to play out our skins to get anything from our group. On a side note how come the only game England won't play at Wembley would be the quarter finals? Scotland's history is littered with shit results against wee teams and no fear when we're really up against it. I'm surprisingly confident, I think we've got a really good manager for exactly this type of game and as I like to say a lot, you don't have to have a team of superstars to have a really effective team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, 151 said: Scary when you consider the strength of Englands squad. I know its the good old "great individuals but shite team" stuff with England but i genuinely think this is the strongest England side i've ever seen. We will have to play out our skins to get anything from our group. On a side note how come the only game England won't play at Wembley would be the quarter finals? They have some real quality in attack for sure, I don't think the squad holds a candle to their team in the 90s and early 2000s though, on paper at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, 151 said: Scary when you consider the strength of Englands squad. I know its the good old "great individuals but shite team" stuff with England but i genuinely think this is the strongest England side i've ever seen. We will have to play out our skins to get anything from our group. On a side note how come the only game England won't play at Wembley would be the quarter finals? 1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said: I remember watching the 1966 World Cup as a nine year old where England played all their matches at Wembley. They have a very strong squad with some outstanding players and I genuinely think they can go all the way. Plenty will disagree, probably because they don't like England. As for tonight, Craig will be a busy man. Hopefully he can keep the score down to a respectable figure. He is streets ahead of Marshall anyway who has been shite recently and hardly played. I agree with you both. England (on paper at least) look extremely strong, right through their squad. They should get to the semi-finals at least with relative ease. Scotland will be doing very, very well to take a draw from the Auld Enemy game, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, R1874 said: 7 players out tonight. Gordon playing a silver lining but no RB. Guessing Forrest will play there. Or maybe Tierney there in a 4 Great start Interesting how you use warm up games. England are apparently planning to play players such as Lingard not in their squad. I'm questioning the benefit of warm up games anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Smithee said: Scotland's history is littered with shit results against wee teams and no fear when we're really up against it. I'm surprisingly confident, I think we've got a really good manager for exactly this type of game and as I like to say a lot, you don't have to have a team of superstars to have a really effective team. I think England will be ****ing themselves against us unless they get an early goal, the longer its nil nil the more the pressure will grow and the fans will get on their back. Early goal for Scotland. chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Interesting how you use warm up games. England are apparently planning to play players such as Lingard not in their squad. I'm questioning the benefit of warm up games anyway. none of the man C or Chelsea players are available and they have 2 or 3 injured players so thats about 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BigAlim said: They have some real quality in attack for sure, I don't think the squad holds a candle to their team in the 90s and early 2000s though, on paper at least I'd argue they're a better team Tbh. Playing at Wembley helps, Engerlund don't often lose at Wembley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 England have a track record for much of the time since 1996 of having extremely good club players who just couldn't foot it at international level when it really counted. If Scotland are very sharp and can minimise errors at the back, I think they stand a decent chance. If they resort to the monotonous passing game at the back with no sharpness or vision they should deservedly be well beaten. Can't see where the goals will come from. Hope someone like Dykes can really step up at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: England breeze through groups then fill their breeks under the pressure then the shit hits the fan followed by the inevitable recriminations. Scotland will be as dull as feck.and lose while the tartan army dance about retarsed. Bob Crampsey has nothing to worry about. That’s probably a pretty fair summary, Jonno. As long as the TA have a great time though, all is good. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Scotland U21s 1, N. Ireland U21s 2. Hope non of our boys were involved in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Scotland need to get out the group stage. No more excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Is the game tonight being shown anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Auldbenches said: Is the game tonight being shown anywhere? sky sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, milky_26 said: sky sports Thanks. Forgot it was tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Ticketless fans told to stay away from London. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57327652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Craig Gordon starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Gordon Tierney Hendry Cooper Robertson Turnbull McGregor Forrest Christie Armstrong Dykes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, jonnothejambo said: I remember watching the 1966 World Cup as a nine year old where England played all their matches at Wembley. They have a very strong squad with some outstanding players and I genuinely think they can go all the way. Plenty will disagree, probably because they don't like England. As for tonight, Craig will be a busy man. Hopefully he can keep the score down to a respectable figure. He is streets ahead of Marshall anyway who has been shite recently and hardly played. England have a really good chance. And hopefully Scotland benefits from that, when they bump the Czechs and Croats. I think England might pull a fast one so they stay at Wembley. BTW, it's the media that gets on most Scots tits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 That defence does not look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Gordon Tierney Hendry Cooper Robertson Turnbull McGregor Forrest Christie Armstrong Dykes reckon it’s more likely to be Forrest at wing back and the usual set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigAlim said: reckon it’s more likely to be Forrest at wing back and the usual set up Probably 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, ri Alban said: England have a really good chance. And hopefully Scotland benefits from that, when they bump the Czechs and Croats. I think England might pull a fast one so they stay at Wembley. BTW, it's the media that gets on most Scots tits. As well as the tits in the fans park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: As well as the tits in the fans park That trumpet needs shoved up the arse ofthe guy who plays it. At Wembley and Ibrox. Does my nut right in. And that doe a deer song fae the scotland fans is worse. Fecking hate it. Edited June 2, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Diadora Van Basten Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Gordon Tierney Hendry Cooper Robertson Turnbull McGregor Forrest Christie Armstrong Dykes Decent team apart from Dykes will be interesting to see how the central defence play together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, cosanostra said: That defence does not look great. Craig going to have a busy night by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Have I missed a link to a stream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: That's one of the poorest Dutch sides I've ever seen, top level players, sure, but nothing compared to Dutch sides of the last 46 years, not a world class player there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Tim Krul is rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Decent team apart from Dykes will be interesting to see how the central defence play together. 7 goals and 3 assists in his last 10 games, looks to have hit form at the right time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Interesting how you use warm up games. England are apparently planning to play players such as Lingard not in their squad. I'm questioning the benefit of warm up games anyway. Lingard is in their preliminary squad of 600 they announced. Only know that because Sky Sports News was all excited about how his loan move had worked out and he’d made the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Stream probably start just before kick off. http://www.hesgoal.com/news/81181/Netherlands_vs_Scotland.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) The Dutch will probably line up, Krul Timber de Vrij de Ligt Dumfries Wijndal de Roon de Jong Wijnaldum Weghorst Depay Edited June 2, 2021 by Cruyff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: The Dutch will probably line up, Krul Timber de Vrij de Ligt Dumfries Wijndal de Roon de Jong Wijnaldum Weghorst Depay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Tierney is a dour faced wee Fud. Dykes trying to remember the words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Nae McTominey. Ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Good tempo. The Dutch probably thought it would be a nice wee kick about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) STV (ITV) showing the England game and we're on Sky as always. What a load of shite - SFA's fault though? Edited June 2, 2021 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Tidy start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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