Jambo-Fox Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: Tbf to the people being negative and I’m frequently one of them. We are the third to fourth best financed side in the country and have been completely shite for years. Being positive can look borderline idiotic at times tbh. Negativity is a tendency to be downbeat, disagreeable, and skeptical. It's a pessimistic attitude that always expects the worst. Negative outcomes are bad outcomes, like losing a game, getting a disease, suffering an injury, or getting something stolen Recognise anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nobreath said: ...as can being negative during close season when everybody knows that Robbie is safe in his job for the foreseeable. All very tiresome and pointless. So be positive because a manager most people know isn’t good enough is staying regardless? Like I said, being happy for the sake of it is borderline idiotic. Edited June 3, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: Negativity is a tendency to be downbeat, disagreeable, and skeptical. It's a pessimistic attitude that always expects the worst. Negative outcomes are bad outcomes, like losing a game, getting a disease, suffering an injury, or getting something stolen Recognise anybody? I’m sure you have a point but after using the word dissenters earlier I’m not sure I’m that interested in whatever it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy frog Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: PHM status returned, renewed mine and juniors tickets just now. Think because we still had £150 to pay from last seasons ticket(bought in 2 halfs), the TO managed to add that on to the phase 2 price!! Bonus! I wandered into TO yesterday to check how much I gotta pay, never used any streaming etc last season but forgot to opt out, 315 now and 245 after the full price threshold I think she said. No bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 02/06/2021 at 00:17, Perth to Paisley said: Probably been asked before but.. Is there any benefit to the club in not paying the full price for a ST but paying the same amount split over ST and FoH donation? You obviously get FoH points for a donation. Could it be the case that if you take up the cheap offer, the club will be able to claim the difference as a loss, thus reducing tax liability? Then there's VAT: The club would obviously have to pay HMRC less from the cheaper price, and none from a FoH donation. I might be spouting utter crap, but if I'm not, taking up the offer would seem to be better for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 15 hours ago, The Treasurer said: Good to know. Means more chance of Hearts supporters (you know people that support the club not individuals) getting to watch the team if there is a reduced capacity 🥰PHM, think I might be in love 🥰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Lemongrab said: Could it be the case that if you take up the cheap offer, the club will be able to claim the difference as a loss, thus reducing tax liability? Then there's VAT: The club would obviously have to pay HMRC less from the cheaper price, and none from a FoH donation. I might be spouting utter crap, but if I'm not, taking up the offer would seem to be better for the club. £400 for ticket = £333.33 to club and £66.67 to Westminster £200 donation to FoH and £200 (£166.67 net) to the club. £366.67 - £333.33 = £33.33 club better off. Guess they couldn't suggest that option 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said: £400 for ticket = £333.33 to club and £66.67 to Westminster £200 donation to FoH and £200 (£166.67 net) to the club. £366.67 - £333.33 = £33.33 club better off. Guess they couldn't suggest that option 🙄 Suggesting that could be seen as a form of aggressive tax avoidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Suggesting that could be seen as a form of aggressive tax avoidance. As a club and FoH they can't and shouldn't; but .... in the meantime I'm going to use the money in my tax free ISA to pay for it 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said: As a club and FoH they can't and shouldn't; but .... in the meantime I'm going to use the money in my tax free ISA to pay for it 😉 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Sorry if this has already been asked, but the thread is big and I don't want to spend half an hour trawling through it. The full price ST deadline is June 10, after that it's the period for reduced price renewals. I assume the option to pay full price if you would rather is still there after the 10th? I want to pay full price, but won't be in a position to until the end of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, crunchy frog said: I wandered into TO yesterday to check how much I gotta pay, never used any streaming etc last season but forgot to opt out, 315 now and 245 after the full price threshold I think she said. No bad Think coz we still had the balance to pay and I said we'd wait til phase 2 the TO were quite happy to setup the online price to phase 2 price so quite happy with it. Just want back bloody in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Sorry if this has already been asked, but the thread is big and I don't want to spend half an hour trawling through it. The full price ST deadline is June 10, after that it's the period for reduced price renewals. I assume the option to pay full price if you would rather is still there after the 10th? I want to pay full price, but won't be in a position to until the end of June. It's not 100% clear, but seems likely. The approach of having this window for full price only seems pretty sensible. Once people have decided to pay full-price, giving them the option of a ~£200 discount at the checkout is bound to be tempting for some. To encourage as many of those people as possible to renew at full price, it makes sense to imply that will only be possible for the first two weeks. But then when it opens up to discounted tickets the reverse becomes true. It is sensible to give those people the opportunity at checkout the opportunity to make a last-minute benevolent decision to pay full price. Equally, for people that wanted to pay full price but missed the first deadline, why would you stop them. Of course, if I'm wrong and you can only pay the discount rate, as others have said you could make a one-off donation to FOH to make up the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: It's not 100% clear, but seems likely. The approach of having this window for full price only seems pretty sensible. Once people have decided to pay full-price, giving them the option of a ~£200 discount at the checkout is bound to be tempting for some. To encourage as many of those people as possible to renew at full price, it makes sense to imply that will only be possible for the first two weeks. But then when it opens up to discounted tickets the reverse becomes true. It is sensible to give those people the opportunity at checkout the opportunity to make a last-minute benevolent decision to pay full price. Equally, for people that wanted to pay full price but missed the first deadline, why would you stop them. Of course, if I'm wrong and you can only pay the discount rate, as others have said you could make a one-off donation to FOH to make up the difference. It would seem a mad business model not to let people pay full price if they wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 17 hours ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: It's the most negative fans forum i've ever looked at. In trying to be open it allows people to drag it down. It's unreadable most of the time and most i know stay away because of that. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYL Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 So how are sales going......I seen the 1000 sold on day 1 but not seen any more updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I haven’t read every post but I guess Hearts would prefer cash rather that pay by card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, mitch41 said: I haven’t read every post but I guess Hearts would prefer cash rather that pay by card. I doubt it matters these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, mitch41 said: I haven’t read every post but I guess Hearts would prefer cash rather that pay by card. That used to be the case but with Covid I doubt that’s a priority any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 hours ago, davemclaren said: Suggesting that could be seen as a form of aggressive tax avoidance. Dunno. Donate at least £350 to the FoH, get a free ticket to a Hearts game x19. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 20 hours ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: I wouldn't have let Robbie Neilson on the bus after the Brora game. But i'm bored with every thread descending into a conversation about him. It's football, sometimes it would be nice to read about football and have a bit of a laugh. That used to happen, not any more though and most people are sick of it. It's a good forum, but some folk are very boring and negative and as you try to invade every thread. If you put the really tiresome and aggressive types on ignore in general you get decent football chat and patter mixed in with reasonable debate that can be interesting and funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, GYL said: So how are sales going......I seen the 1000 sold on day 1 but not seen any more updates? 2000+ sold now. On website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, GYL said: So how are sales going......I seen the 1000 sold on day 1 but not seen any more updates? Surely we'll get regular updates!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Surely we'll get regular updates!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Dazo said: I doubt it matters these days. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 hours ago, davemclaren said: That used to be the case but with Covid I doubt that’s a priority any more. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Hearts Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I see the sheep are claiming to have sold 4800+ season tickets. Don't know the deals offered etc . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, Whitburn Hearts said: I see the sheep are claiming to have sold 4800+ season tickets. Don't know the deals offered etc . They’ve been on sale a longer than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 02/06/2021 at 18:36, Jambof3tornado said: Lol! Happens to the best of us!! And me! Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 02/06/2021 at 19:01, gorgie rd eh11 said: It's the most negative fans forum i've ever looked at. In trying to be open it allows people to drag it down. It's unreadable most of the time and most i know stay away because of that. Sadly very true re current status of forum. Didn’t used to be that way but has gone downhill remarkably in last two to three years. Very close to not bothering anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 23 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: Negativity is a tendency to be downbeat, disagreeable, and skeptical. It's a pessimistic attitude that always expects the worst. Negative outcomes are bad outcomes, like losing a game, getting a disease, suffering an injury, or getting something stolen Recognise anybody? How many names do you want ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Sadly very true re current status of forum. Didn’t used to be that way but has gone downhill remarkably in last two to three years. Very close to not bothering anymore. Just reflects the downward spiral we've been on over the same period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: How many names do you want ? As many as you want to share! ♥️♥️♥️♥️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7PNJ4 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 We still getting all games on hearts TV again this season? Thought I saw the announcement that the streaming was continued but can't remember if it's being given to season ticket holders again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, davemclaren said: They’ve been on sale a longer than ours. Cabbages are claiming 9,000 sold. To be precise, one brussel sprout is claiming that on .net. Could be garbage but they have been on sale for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 will be in the shop this weekend to renew mines and the wife's probably have a drink or three at the bar as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Cabbages are claiming 9,000 sold. To be precise, one brussel sprout is claiming that on .net. Could be garbage but they have been on sale for ages. Yeah saw this the other day on Twitter. Been on sale for weeks now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Don’t think ours will take a big jump until the 12th of June renewals open up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Cabbages are claiming 9,000 sold. To be precise, one brussel sprout is claiming that on .net. Could be garbage but they have been on sale for ages. Maybe they thought they would get a cup final ticket again.😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 All 4 of our cartel have now renewed at phase 2 prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Maybe they thought they would get a cup final ticket again.😊 More likely 7500 adults bought u16s to fleece their own club, 1000 free ones to schools to boost the numbers and 500 paying full price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, Dazo said: Don’t think ours will take a big jump until the 12th of June renewals open up. Agree. Everyone I know, including myself are waiting till phase 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eck1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 01/06/2021 at 10:17, 7PNJ4 said: How do you choose option 2? I just get taken through to the checkout and it says 360 still? This option isn’t available until this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: All 4 of our cartel have now renewed at phase 2 prices. This weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Newton51 said: Yeah saw this the other day on Twitter. Been on sale for weeks now my neighbour said 6000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just back from the TO renewing my ST for the 52nd year in a row. Also collected my "other half" cardboard cut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Just back from the TO renewing my ST for the 52nd year in a row. Also collected my "other half" cardboard cut out. If you miss a match you can send that along instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: If you miss a match you can send that along instead. Looks in much better nick than I do ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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