Kiwidoug Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 What's the reason to think Allan Campbell might be available? Out of contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, mitch41 said: To get this spot on I’d recon having 25 players of a squad who you can count on to cover form, injuries, suspensions etc. 3 x Keepers : Gordon, Stewart, Stone 2 x Right Backs : Smith, Brandon 2 x Left Backs : A.N Other, A.N.Other 2 x Right Centre Backs : Souttar, A.N.Other 2 x Left Centre Backs : A.N.Other, A.N.Other 2 x Right Wing Backs : ? , ?. 2 x Left Wing Backs : ? , ?. 6 x Midfielders : McEneff, Walker, Haring, ? , ? , ?. 4 x Strikers : Boyce, Gnanduillet, Ginnelly, ?. I’m thinking that Stone should maybe given the chance to challenge Gordon and get a few games in the League Cup especially with the big man in the Scotland squad. Halkett would not be my first choice and if he wanted a move that could be for the best. Mackay-Steven I recon is in the same bracket as Halkett as well as Henderson. Irving might have to stay at Hearts, who knows, and Naismith might retire or he might not. Youngsters like McGill need to push as hard as they can to force their way into the squad. The players I haven’t mentioned need to be sold or freed. 2Rb 2Lb 2Rwb and 2Lwb I feel administration is coming again with our wage bill lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: What's the reason to think Allan Campbell might be available? Out of contract? Out of contract but 500k development fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiwidoug said: I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. Don’t think any club announce who they want to sign, maybe because the media have more interest in the bigger clubs and write articles that sound like it’s coming from the club itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Out of contract but 500k development fee Thanks. Probably too steep for us. I'm a big fan of us signing promising players from other Scottish clubs. JJ was superb at finding modestly priced gems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: Halliday done well at LB,was excellent against Raith and chipped in with an important goal against Dundee.👍 So let’s forget the rest of the season where he was mince, lazy and uninterested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Aye he wis. No he wasnae..........I win 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. What a load of nonsense. Culture of silence my arse. We announce things when they’re a done deal - what’s wrong with that. I couldn’t give a toss about possibles or maybes, I want those agreed and completed. Utter drivel in your post I’m afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: not many of them kicking about. I think Shanklands movement is excellent. Dundee Utd were massively defensive last season so I remain convinced he’d be a good player in tight games when we are on top . One of our own as well. that said - I don’t think Dundee Utd would be keen to sell to us Billy Mackay would do the job but a 33 yo might not be that well received. The guy from QoS Connor Shields might’ve been worth a look but he signed for Motherwell. Utd might not want to sell him to us and I think your of a similar generation that remembers we rarely get a good player from them, or manager 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Thanks. Probably too steep for us. I'm a big fan of us signing promising players from other Scottish clubs. JJ was superb at finding modestly priced gems. those gems now move to England for 5 times the cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Don’t think any club announce who they want to sign, maybe because the media have more interest in the bigger clubs and write articles that sound like it’s coming from the club itself The interview I posted with Joe Savage earlier, he talks about players they were speaking to then a club with more resources swoops in and takes them (one player he gave an example of is PNE tried to signed Jamal Lowe, then Swansea came in who had more money due to previous premier league parachute payments so was able to sign him. As you say, announcing who are going to sign can only end in tears. Especially if its a player who would normally be out of your league who is in talks, let bigger clubs know the player is speaking to a lower level and they will jump in with a bit more money to entice them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. why on earth would we announce our transfer budget ? Not sure what clubs do officially but I’m interested to know ? Likewise why would we officially say who our transfer targets are ? What positives come from that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, adambraejambo said: 2Rb 2Lb 2Rwb and 2Lwb I feel administration is coming again with our wage bill lol We’ll be in the money. There’s nothing better than winning games home and away to get the crowds in and when that happens every part of the club does well. Hospitality, Merchandise, Sponsorship, Hearts TV subscriptions yes you name it success on the pitch leads to a healthy bank balance. What is it that worries you adambraejambo is it our teams management or our Chairperson, If the are in charge of Hearts they must be the best or they wouldn’t be in a job. That must be the truth mustn’t it be. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. Pardon my French, Doug, but that is a load of nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: why on earth would we announce our transfer budget ? Not sure what clubs do officially but I’m interested to know ? Likewise why would we officially say who our transfer targets are ? What positives come from that ? 13 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: why on earth would we announce our transfer budget ? Not sure what clubs do officially but I’m interested to know ? Likewise why would we officially say who our transfer targets are ? What positives come from that ? I would be shocked if we announced our transfer budget. I think we could announce if we have won though. It may be different in the higher echelons but rangers recently announced that they were preparing a £15m bid for a named player. The big clubs in England and Europe do it all the time. My main point is, under Dr Budge, our club is a secret society. Others may disagree but they'll find the gathering of contrary evidence somewhat challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Morgan said: Pardon my French, Doug, but that is a load of nonsense. You would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Do people read their posts back ever and wonder why they wrote it. Boredom has set in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 We've no money to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Just now, Kiwidoug said: You would know. How’s that, Douglas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Paterson buddy said yesterday he's definitely not homesick but Sheffield Wednesday are a cripple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, mitch41 said: We’ll be in the money. There’s nothing better than winning games home and away to get the crowds in and when that happens every part of the club does well. Hospitality, Merchandise, Sponsorship, Hearts TV subscriptions yes you name it success on the pitch leads to a healthy bank balance. What is it that worries you adambraejambo is it our teams management or our Chairperson, If the are in charge of Hearts they must be the best or they wouldn’t be in a job. That must be the truth mustn’t it be. 😎 I've said a few times that I wanted Neilson out and i still do but it appears that it is not happening so I will support the club 100% and just hope I was very wrong in my thoughts on the manager. As for Budge she not perfect but as a owner she one of the better ones but that's a whole different thing and nothing to do with your original post. I just found it funny you wanted 8 players to cover 2 starting positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Sometimes it's better not to bring back players but big Callum would do nicely. I also not our old pal Skinny (Malinkovic) is looking for a club. Pacy, direct winger and still only 27. Could defo do a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Newton51 said: Out of contract but 500k development fee Wouldn’t be anything approaching that according to the table in the SPFL rules. And my reading of those rules is we get him for nothing if we wait till he is 23 in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: So let’s forget the rest of the season where he was mince, lazy and uninterested. Underwhelming in midfield but lazy is very harsh. Was really good at wing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: Underwhelming in midfield but lazy is very harsh. Was really good at wing back. If that’s really good the rest of our team must be super stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, mitch41 said: If that’s really good the rest of our team must be super stars. You’ll be happy then as that’s what you want. 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, mitch41 said: No he wasnae..........I win 😎 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said: I think we could announce if we have won though. Announce what ? Why on earth would we do that. Let others know what we have to spend ? Like I said what good would come from that ? Edited May 30, 2021 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: So what you are suggesting is we shouldn’t bother trying to sign players who can take a a chance because, as you correctly point out, we don’t create enough chances. Just get Boyce, Ginelly and GMS to France as well. Nah, was simply saying that we could sign Messi and make a mess of that too! If someone needs another player(s) to be effective then you need multiple decent signings and a manager that plays to actual strengths............not too sure the last 4 or 5 YEARS have any evidence of players/ managers/ style/ tactics........then again I've mislaid my rose tinted glasses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: I would be shocked if we announced our transfer budget. I think we could announce if we have won though. It may be different in the higher echelons but rangers recently announced that they were preparing a £15m bid for a named player. The big clubs in England and Europe do it all the time. My main point is, under Dr Budge, our club is a secret society. Others may disagree but they'll find the gathering of contrary evidence somewhat challenging. Won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, 1971fozzy said: Announce what ? Why on earth would we do that. Let others know what we have to spend ? Like I said what good would come from that ? That’s right Never Ever Show Your Hand because it only gives the selling club, agent or player looking for more cash. The amount of money Hearts have or don’t have is the clubs business no one else’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, mitch41 said: That’s right Never Ever Show Your Hand because it only gives the selling club, agent or player looking for more cash. The amount of money Hearts have or don’t have is the clubs business no one else’s. I understand your viewpoint but I struggle to fully agree with it. Everyone knows that the owners of the giant clubs have money coming out their ears. That doesn't mean that they don't put a maximum value on a player they want to sign and just walk away if the host club are after more. No real secrets in their world. Our world is very different but it would do no harm to specify that we have a budget for pay increases, bonuses and transfers without specifying the sum. I would argue against myself however by saying that with our track record of signing multiple failures, having a transfer budget at all is high risk. My overall point is that I wish the club would be more open with us on many subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Thanks. Probably too steep for us. I'm a big fan of us signing promising players from other Scottish clubs. JJ was superb at finding modestly priced gems. He also signed loads of dross and wasted loads of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, jambocub said: He also signed loads of dross and wasted loads of money Your memory will leave mine for dead but his 1998 team challenged valiantly for the league and won the cup with the players I'm referring too. Plus a smattering of superb imports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Barack said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-remain-keen-on-leigh-griffiths-reunion-as-celtic-keep-tabs-on-kevin-nisbet-3255674 Sell Nisbet. Get Griffiths. Win-win, sadly. No a win win imo. Griffiths is now over 30,has a wad of cash in the bank,motivation has gone.Similar to O'Connor and Rat boy returning. Win for us as a famous member of the 5-1 band coming back.😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-hold-talks-with-two-signing-targets-3255323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-hold-talks-with-two-signing-targets-3255323 Barry getting his info from here again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazzas right boot Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Barack said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-remain-keen-on-leigh-griffiths-reunion-as-celtic-keep-tabs-on-kevin-nisbet-3255674 Sell Nisbet. Get Griffiths. Win-win, sadly. Always happening, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Bacon Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 10 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: I've previously bemoaned the culture of silence and secrecy under the Budge regime unless the good lady wants our money. I'm intrigued that many of the big clubs in England announce their signing targets, so too Celtic and rangers, but not us. I presume I'm still not allowed to know how our injured players are progressing or whether we have a transfer budget. Or anything else for that matter. Against my better judgement... here are my thoughts. Most players are under contract until the end of May, or more likely down south the end of June. Until they are out of contract and subsequently signed by Hearts, I would not expect any public announcements. Most of the deals publicised are when a fee is agreed, thus the player and his current club agree to terminate the original contract in exchange for money. In this case the contracts do not have to get to the end date, and the new club is free to announce, as the new contract will then supersed any previous deal. As we have seen there can be many reasons as to why a deal can be scuppered, so is fluid until everything is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Your memory will leave mine for dead but his 1998 team challenged valiantly for the league and won the cup with the players I'm referring too. Plus a smattering of superb imports. He did, he also spent about £400k on Petric and we crashed and burned the season after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Barack said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-remain-keen-on-leigh-griffiths-reunion-as-celtic-keep-tabs-on-kevin-nisbet-3255674 Sell Nisbet. Get Griffiths. Win-win, sadly. Fitness could be his problem, he was slaughtered by Lennon for being overweight and unfit for pre season. Took him about 6 months to get fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Barack said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-remain-keen-on-leigh-griffiths-reunion-as-celtic-keep-tabs-on-kevin-nisbet-3255674 Sell Nisbet. Get Griffiths. Win-win, sadly. A fit and mentally tuned in Griffiths would be a great signing for Hibs. Not so sure they are going to get that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme an H... Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Griffiths is better than Nisbit. Even at 30+ and having no kicked a baw for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Boycie is better than nissy currently and that is not maroon tinted specs either. Boycie has an all round better game however Nisbet does have age on his side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: No a win win imo. Griffiths is now over 30,has a wad of cash in the bank,motivation has gone.Similar to O'Connor and Rat boy returning. Win for us as a famous member of the 5-1 band coming back.😎 I think it’ll revitalise him a bit to be honest. Much like when Gordon returned to us. If they get a couple of million for Nisbet and sign Griffiths then that’ll be an outstanding piece of business for them unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, iantjambo said: I think it’ll revitalise him a bit to be honest. Much like when Gordon returned to us. If they get a couple of million for Nisbet and sign Griffiths then that’ll be an outstanding piece of business for them unfortunately. If Griffiths mental health issues are sorted it would be a great move for them in the short term. No idea how he is nowadays though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: He did, he also spent about £400k on Petric and we crashed and burned the season after. He more than made that money back by signing Niemi at the same time and selling him on to Southampton. We also had three amazing years with him in goal. Edited May 31, 2021 by Last Laff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 hours ago, mitch41 said: That’s right Never Ever Show Your Hand because it only gives the selling club, agent or player looking for more cash. The amount of money Hearts have or don’t have is the clubs business no one else’s. 100% this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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