Bazzas right boot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 52 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Yep. Of course,not expecting us to get John Stones, Ageuro and De Bruyne, more that we should be looking to sign a backbone of experienced professionals who are the right side of 30 and have a couple of hundred games under their belt at SPL level (or higher, if possible) Ageuro is out of contract, Messi is as well-solve our attacking problems. De Bruyne is a bit of a stretch tho, he'd cost a fee. Stones is shite 😉, wouldn't bother with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: I've actually been thinking about your question more now, and I reckon Levein was better at spotting a player than Neilson ever could be, he had bags more experience in that role and I think he knew what he wanted to do with them, he just wasn't very good at putting it into practice. Neilson on the other hand has exactly the same rotten style of play as Levein, but without the eye for a player in my opinion, he's signed 3 of the worst wingers I've ever seen in my life this season (Frear, Roberts, and just when you think he couldn't top this, he brings in Kasta flipping neer!), he also has no clue how to get the best out of his current team, and let's be honest, the players we have should be absolutely dominating every fixture in this very poor league and rattling in a couple of goals at least each game, this has been nowhere near happening. To answer your question, I'd trust Levein a lot more with a budget for bringing in players than Neilson, and that's saying something! Honestly I don't want to get into yet another debate about the signings of CL. I have made my thoughts known on this matter many times and will keep my reply as brief as possible. I wouldn't trust Levein with a budget more than Robbie. I don't disagree with you on the signings of Frear & Kastaneer however the Jury is maybe still out on Roberts as he did ok at Motherwell until his injury. CL had many transfer windows and some absolutely shocking signings so I think we can afford Robbie the summer transfer window to see what he can do. If after that he hasn't produced the goods then maybe I will agree with you but more importantly maybe AB will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: Aye Boyce appears to be very happy at Hearts so hopefully when they're playing CoD together he's in his ear talking us up lol. His other pal Coll Donaldson would be represent very good value for us as well I think and would be a safe option as cover for Souttar. I’d have Coll Donaldson nowhere near us. He’s terrible, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Ageuro is out of contract, Messi is as well-solve our attacking problems. De Bruyne is a bit of a stretch tho, he'd cost a fee. Stones is shite 😉, wouldn't bother with him. Is he not injured.😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Is he not injured.😍 de bruyne played at wembley on sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, milky_26 said: de bruyne played at wembley on sunday 👍 Last time I saw him he was hobbling off with what seemed like an ankle injury. Must have made a quick recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Tazio said: To be fair to Rudi most of his other clubs rather oddly played him at left back. That's right when he left us the first time and joined Southampton they played him as a left back when he got a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Like the look of Pinnock and Kiltie from Killie, think both are free agents at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiemac Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bozi said: Edited April 27, 2021 by Jamiemac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiemac Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Bozi said: Hard to argue with any of that Very much agreed in Halkett but starting to think Smith gets an easy ride, he is consistent but offers very little going forward, if anything needs to be a CB now Smith is an interesting one, fans favourite, but still part of a very leaky defence. Kingsley the same. Defensive problems solely down to CB’s? I guess so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, feej said: Like the look of Pinnock and Kiltie from Killie, think both are free agents at the end of the season. Apparently Dunfermline want Kiltie. Par I know said that’s the chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 You can buy the best instruments going but if the conductor can’t get a tune out of them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroon Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Jason Kerr would be a great signing but comes from a hibee family and always been rumours he’s going to them. Is there any truth in this Paterson rumour ? Surely he’d rather stay in English leagues for as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, wavydavy said: Honestly I don't want to get into yet another debate about the signings of CL. I have made my thoughts known on this matter many times and will keep my reply as brief as possible. I wouldn't trust Levein with a budget more than Robbie. I don't disagree with you on the signings of Frear & Kastaneer however the Jury is maybe still out on Roberts as he did ok at Motherwell until his injury. CL had many transfer windows and some absolutely shocking signings so I think we can afford Robbie the summer transfer window to see what he can do. If after that he hasn't produced the goods then maybe I will agree with you but more importantly maybe AB will. I get where you're coming from, however I've see nothing at all from this season under Robbie to suggest that next season will be any different, and therefore don't want him having any budget at all, he's as boring and negative as they come, one of my mates calls him Handbrake Bob, and he's right! If we risk letting him spunk the budget away in the summer and then it doesn't work (as most of us already suspect), then it's too late and we could easily be heading back down again, can you imagine the seethe and hindsight posts then? Ooft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, GinRummy said: Apparently Dunfermline want Kiltie. Par I know said that’s the chat. He's better than the Pars. I hope he's the type we would be targeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, The Apprentice said: I’d have Coll Donaldson nowhere near us. He’s terrible, IMO. Really? I haven't seen him a huge amount but from what I have seen he looked alright. He is older than I thought though - thought he was 22/23 but he's like 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 A paper down south linking us and Hibs with Martyn Waghorn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: A paper down south linking us and Hibs with Martyn Waghorn.... I'd take him in a heartbeat but he must be on about £30k per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, Heartsofgold said: I'd take him in a heartbeat but he must be on about £30k per week. At Derby? Surely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 So looking through this thread basically anyone who plays well against us or plays well in the most recent matches to be televised should be signed? Including lots of people recommending a centre half from Dunfermline because he scores a few goals, the same Dunfermline who leak goals for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, GinRummy said: At Derby? Surely not. Yeah you could be right, £30k nowadays is a bit excessive for even the Championship. Maybe nearer £10k PW? Still well outside our top budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: I'd take him in a heartbeat but he must be on about £30k per week. 11 minutes ago, GinRummy said: At Derby? Surely not. £17k apparently when he first signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Yeah you could be right, £30k nowadays is a bit excessive for even the Championship. Maybe nearer £10k PW? Still well outside our top budget. 16 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: £17k apparently when he first signed. Even at the lower end. He’d have to drop a lot of cash to come to us. I suppose it doesn’t matter what he’s earning now, if no championship clubs are interested then it could be a goer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under the floodlight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tazio said: So looking through this thread basically anyone who plays well against us or plays well in the most recent matches to be televised should be signed? Including lots of people recommending a centre half from Dunfermline because he scores a few goals, the same Dunfermline who leak goals for fun. Bingo, think some posters are already working in our recruitment department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Under the floodlight said: Bingo, think some posters are already working in our recruitment department. Hearts could do with the help tbh. Could uncover the next Garrucio or Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Even at the lower end. He’d have to drop a lot of cash to come to us. I suppose it doesn’t matter what he’s earning now, if no championship clubs are interested then it could be a goer. Yeah I mean he's 31 now, and he signed for Derby when Lampard was in charge and they were basically throwing money around trying to get back into the PL (i.e. by having Rooney on £50k p/w). Whether he's on £10k, £17k or somewhere in between I reckon he'd be lucky to get half of those amounts even if he stayed down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Batistuta87 said: Really? I haven't seen him a huge amount but from what I have seen he looked alright. He is older than I thought though - thought he was 22/23 but he's like 26. Dear lord....Donaldson 😂🤣😅🤪 This place man 😬🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Yeah I mean he's 31 now, and he signed for Derby when Lampard was in charge and they were basically throwing money around trying to get back into the PL (i.e. by having Rooney on £50k p/w). Whether he's on £10k, £17k or somewhere in between I reckon he'd be lucky to get half of those amounts even if he stayed down south. Good insight, thanks. Possibly affordable then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under the floodlight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Hearts could do with the help tbh. Could uncover the next Garrucio or Doyle. Mother of god!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, Under the floodlight said: Mother of god!!!! Doubt they’d discover her. There is only so much the fans can do mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under the floodlight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Doubt they’d discover her. There is only so much the fans can do mate. 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: I get where you're coming from, however I've see nothing at all from this season under Robbie to suggest that next season will be any different, and therefore don't want him having any budget at all, he's as boring and negative as they come, one of my mates calls him Handbrake Bob, and he's right! If we risk letting him spunk the budget away in the summer and then it doesn't work (as most of us already suspect), then it's too late and we could easily be heading back down again, can you imagine the seethe and hindsight posts then? Ooft! I also get where you are coming from. The one difference that hopefully might have a decent impact is the arrival of Savage. Hopefully he can unearth some decent players for us and who knows with the right players in place we might see more positive play and staying in the top league. Lets face it we are at the mercy of AB and what she wants happens no matter what we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Tazio said: So looking through this thread basically anyone who plays well against us or plays well in the most recent matches to be televised should be signed? Including lots of people recommending a centre half from Dunfermline because he scores a few goals, the same Dunfermline who leak goals for fun. At the moment with zero people allowed in the ground, how else are fans meant to see other players. However I’m fairly sure some fans could do better than our so called recruitment team. I mean Waghorn. WTAF. He was a chunky turd when he was at Ibrox and yet another symbol of our half arsed recruitment policy. Journeymen players looking to see out their playing days. Our books have been full of them in the last few years - Sammon, Naismith, GMS to name a few. We need to look at younger, up and coming talent not players who are past their best and looking for a retirement plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhall37 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Not in the know,but just asked Andy Irvine if he is signing,he said soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Barack said: You should've asked Andy Irving instead. The other boy a plumber or that, is he? Irish folk musician. Expect the Fields of Athenry added to Scott Wilson’s playlist soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Irish folk musician. Expect the Fields of Athenry added to Scott Wilson’s playlist soon. Greatest rugby player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Greatest rugby player. Some career. Still only 20 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, mhall37 said: Not in the know,but just asked Andy Irvine if he is signing,he said soon. ...... on for his pension? Great rugby player in his day, but even by our standards a bit past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, mhall37 said: Not in the know,but just asked Andy Irvine if he is signing,he said soon. Where's he Coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, mhall37 said: Not in the know,but just asked Andy Irvine if he is signing,he said soon. Could be good for free kicks (if the goal was on the roof of the stand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Agentjambo said: You can buy the best instruments going but if the conductor can’t get a tune out of them.... Conductor doesn't play the instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I hope Neilson does not get another penny to waste by the club. Heartbreaking seeing the money he has wasted on the players he has signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I really want us to be looking at younger players we can develop mixed with a few older heads that can help push us on. Some out of contracts u23s I'd be keen on us signing would be: Campbell (Motherwell), Hendry (Raith), Edwards (Dunfermline), Shields (QOS) Next season out of contract 2022 Robson (Dundee utd), Hamilton (Hamilton) Even if we couldn't get Campbell - Hendry, Edwards & Shields would be 3 sensible solid signings at CM, LB & ST respectively. We too often go for finished articles we can't develop. We need to be looking to ones we can pick up for low fees and spend a season or two developing. Some will work, some won't. I'd rather see youngsters than players who have no hunger at all to try and kick on. Callum Paterson returning would be incredible too. I'd like Gallagher too, think he could pair with Souttar well, and already has played with Halkett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, OTT said: I really want us to be looking at younger players we can develop mixed with a few older heads that can help push us on. Some out of contracts u23s I'd be keen on us signing would be: Campbell (Motherwell), Hendry (Raith), Edwards (Dunfermline), Shields (QOS) Next season out of contract 2022 Robson (Dundee utd), Hamilton (Hamilton) Even if we couldn't get Campbell - Hendry, Edwards & Shields would be 3 sensible solid signings at CM, LB & ST respectively. We too often go for finished articles we can't develop. We need to be looking to ones we can pick up for low fees and spend a season or two developing. Some will work, some won't. I'd rather see youngsters than players who have no hunger at all to try and kick on. Callum Paterson returning would be incredible too. I'd like Gallagher too, think he could pair with Souttar well, and already has played with Halkett. Some good players in there but we have to not fall into the trap of signing too many players from lower leagues and smaller teams at once unless we have very, very good players around them, which we mostly don't yet. One or two at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Conductor doesn't play the instruments. Ok Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The signings for this season, just ending, had to be made under the circumstances of playing in the second tier and not playing until October. Not very attractive for decent players, which I think was the game for Hibs and Aberdeen to help push our demotion through. Hibs in particular had an eye on the cup semi final as well, looking for an advantage which didn't turn out too well for them. I don't have a much confidence in Robbie Neilson, but he is going to be the manager into next season with Joe Savage supporting him in recruitment. Any excuses for poor recruitment, and subsequent poor performances, this time won't be accepted. We'll have to wait and see if he can improve the team and have us competing well next season. I get the fears of thinking he may waste more cash resources on substandard players but we have to run with it. Joe Savage should be heavily involved this time, which is a change we hope works. Let's hope Neilson gets it right this time and changes the team's style of play under the confidence of having better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Some good players in there but we have to not fall into the trap of signing too many players from lower leagues and smaller teams at once unless we have very, very good players around them, which we mostly don't yet. One or two at most. True, was thinking Edwards as Kingsleys number 2, Shields as a forward option and Hendry looks like he's ready to make the step up. We do need better senior players though, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Still talking with GIno who apparently wants a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, Clerry Jambo said: Still talking with GIno who apparently wants a deal I’m absolutely all for this deal. I get the concerns about injuries but we’ve lacked players with his energy and drive for far too long. Well worth the risk that he stays fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Gino definitely. Boy adds a lot to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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