2021 Scottish Parliament Election (Thursday 6th May 2021)

[indianajones]

 

Some folk on here will be seething Nicola spoke to their hero Jayda like that. 

[JackLadd]

Harvie is a wee SNP toad. 

[JackLadd]

1 minute ago, indianajones said:

 

Some folk on here will be seething Nicola spoke to their hero Jayda like that. 

 

The SNP paid this nonentity for that free publicity stunt surely. Obviously struck a chord with some dafties. 

[Boab]

Just now, JackLadd said:

Harvie is a wee SNP toad. 

You got your balls handed to you on the SNP thread. Are you capable of debate or is this it for the day ? Daft comments !

[indianajones]

Just now, JackLadd said:

 

The SNP paid this nonentity for that free publicity stunt surely. Obviously struck a chord with some dafties. 

 

Was countering your blatant fishing so far on this thread. 

 

Looks like I got the first bite. 

 

Have a good day. 

[JackLadd]

Just now, Boab said:

You got your balls handed to you on the SNP thread. Are you capable of debate or is this it for the day ? Daft comments !

 

Please I'm listening to Fatty Blackford on the beeb happy that asylum seekers are voting. wtf.

[Boab]

Just now, JackLadd said:

 

Please I'm listening to Fatty Blackford on the beeb happy that asylum seekers are voting. wtf.

Have a good day, guys.

Have fun with this joker.

[dtgj]

Perthshire North - SNP (John Swinney) hold. 

 

SNP vote share holding fairly steady I think? 

Edited May 7, 2021 by dtgj
Addition

[Cade]

SNP results being released:

[dtgj]

Dundee City West - SNP hold. SNP increase their majority at the expense of Labour. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by dtgj
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[frankblack]

14 minutes ago, Barack said:

And I hate to bang on about it again, but; the swing % is important. Any politician will tell you. Depending on how good or bad it is for the respective parties, it can & is spun to suit. But what is inescapable, is the fact that those swing %'s are people at the end of the day. Not a graph. It all adds up.

 

Say, hypothetically it averages out as 5% swing to either Labour or Tory nationally. 

 

That's 5% of a potentially independence voting proportion of the Scottish population, that's indicated that indyref2 isn't perhaps a main concern for them. Right now.  

 

You can't in one breath accuse WM of not upholding the will of Democracy by refusing a 2nd referendum, then in the same breath not take into account what appears to be a tangible concern for a few thousand people. People that may or may not, tip you towards eventual independence.

 

Sturgeon I think, is smarter than that. But again I'm sorry to repeat myself, I have my doubts whether or not she'll be given time.

 

The swing % is going to have more of an affect on the results we see from the list tomorrow.

 

I don't think that there is an appetite for an Indy referendum in the circumstances we find ourselves with the biggest recession in living memory, and think it would be foolish to attempt one in the next five years.

[indianajones]

1 minute ago, frankblack said:

 

The swing % is going to have more of an affect on the results we see from the list tomorrow.

 

I don't think that there is an appetite for an Indy referendum in the circumstances we find ourselves with the biggest recession in living memory, and think it would be foolish to attempt one in the next five years.

 

I do agree although it is brutal watching that lot down the road make an arse of things. 

 

 

[frankblack]

1 minute ago, Barack said:

Yeah, but really I don't think she'd be given even 3 years to try.

 

 

 

True, and the impact of another No vote would be devastating for the party.

[OmiyaHearts]

19 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said:

The local guy with Fransen called Sturgeon a fascist and 30 seconds later a Socialist 😀

Is Govanhill as bad as they say ? 

Haha the guy was hilarious, 'I'm a proud Scot and I don't want my country turning into another country'.😄 It couldn't have worked out better for Sturgeon and the SNP.

 

To clear things up about most of the rubbish people read:

 

Govanhill and Glasgow southside is the best place I've lived - I was brought up in the east end, also lived in west end (couldn't get back to southside quick enough - students are awful people to live near). Been living here the last 7 years;  people who say it's bad or it's dangerous don't live here, they rely on news reports or statistics to suit their agenda, but usually they just have leanings to the right and don't like people with different coloured skin and hard to pronounce names.

Of course, like everywhere, there's aresholes. But I've never had any negative experiences living here. In my 43 years, I've been lucky to spend a total of about 15 years in Glasgow southside and I couldn't recommend it higher to anyone who's looking to move to Glasgow. Places like Cranhill, Baillieston and Easterhouse in the east end are the places you need to worry about.

 

It gets a bad press but it really is a cool place to live - I have the best craft beer shop and bar in Glasgow 5 mins from my flat, plus food places covering every country you can think of. Big thumbs up from me.

[Konrad von Carstein]

29 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

 

The SNP paid this nonentity for that free publicity stunt surely. Obviously struck a chord with some dafties. 

[JackLadd]

Sky high Dundee happy with the SNP. 14 years of progress, true. 

[Ron Burgundy]

4 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Haha the guy was hilarious, 'I'm a proud Scot and I don't want my country turning into another country'.😄 It couldn't have worked out better for Sturgeon and the SNP.

 

To clear things up about most of the rubbish people read:

 

Govanhill and Glasgow southside is the best place I've lived - I was brought up in the east end, also lived in west end (couldn't get back to southside quick enough - students are awful people to live near). Been living here the last 7 years;  people who say it's bad or it's dangerous don't live here, they rely on news reports or statistics to suit their agenda, but usually they just have leanings to the right and don't like people with different coloured skin and hard to pronounce names.

Of course, like everywhere, there's aresholes. But I've never had any negative experiences living here. In my 43 years, I've been lucky to spend a total of about 15 years in Glasgow southside and I couldn't recommend it higher to anyone who's looking to move to Glasgow. Places like Cranhill, Baillieston and Easterhouse in the east end are the places you need to worry about.

 

It gets a bad press but it really is a cool place to live - I have the best craft beer shop and bar in Glasgow 5 mins from my flat, plus food places covering every country you can think of. Big thumbs up from me.

 I got sent through to Glasgow regularly for a while a few years ago and the very first job was in Cranhill. It was pissing rain and had no satnav so pulled over on this steep hill to ask this big hairy local for directions. His answer was " that's near where I stay" and before I knew it he was in my van wanting a lift. I didn't argue and dropped him off.

[dobmisterdobster]

The voting swings could indicate tactical voting.

[redjambo]

4 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

 I got sent through to Glasgow regularly for a while a few years ago and the very first job was in Cranhill. It was pissing rain and had no satnav so pulled over on this steep hill to ask this big hairy local for directions. His answer was " that's near where I stay" and before I knew it he was in my van wanting a lift. I didn't argue and dropped him off.

 

[redjambo]

Just now, dobmisterdobster said:

The voting swings could indicate tactical voting.

 

Indeed. I know it's just one example, but my mum tactical voted this year and it was the first time she'd ever done so.

[dtgj]

Banff and Buchan - SNP hold. Just. Big swing to the Tories, 10%. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by dtgj

[Nucky Thompson]

2 minutes ago, dtgj said:

Banff and Buchan - SNP hold. Just. Big swing to the Tories, 10%. 

Just a few hundred votes in it

[Shanks said no]

Looking at the results so far I would say very few seats are going to change hands on the constituency list.  Would estimate less than 5

 

key however will be the list votes. If voters have blindly voted snp again then nothing much changes and the parliament will again have a similar look. However if the nationalist vote voted tactically to green or Alba then they should be in a better place. The unionist vote can move about and it will be swings and roundabouts on their side
 

time will tell

 

note -this is meant to be a non political post just looking at numbers 

[dobmisterdobster]

2 minutes ago, dtgj said:

Banff and Buchan - SNP hold. Just. Big swing to the Tories, 10%. 

 

That is a huge result for the SNP. Especially if Alba eats into their list vote share.

[redjambo]

It's early doors yet, but the percentage vote so far is:

 

SNP 49.6%

Con 24.3%

Lab 16.5%

LD 8.2%

[Shanks said no]

3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

That is a huge result for the SNP. Especially if Alba eats into their list vote share.

Disagree - don’t think SNP won any list seats in the north east last time, Alba vote could be to their advantage if SNP hold the 9 constituencies

[Ron Burgundy]

4 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

That is a huge result for the SNP. Especially if Alba eats into their list vote share.

Not gonna lie, I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean huge as they have lost 10% or huge as in good on them holding it?

As for the second part about their list vote share well, no idea.

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

Disagree - don’t think SNP won any list seats in the north east last time, Alba vote could be to their advantage if SNP hold the 9 constituencies

 

Indeed they didn't.

[dtgj]

Kilmarnock - SNP hold. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

The full gamut, to coin a phrase....

 

Yuck 🤢 

2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Maybe because if the majority is small, the actual voting numbers would mean a 50/50 chance of her winning. If she wins 2 seats by 1 vote but loses 1 seat by 3, then the numbers don't stack up. 

If another referendum called and lost, then that might be opportunity gone forever and NS's career is over. 

People could also vote Green but may not necessarily vote for independence. 

Loads of questions to answer before they have balls to call referendum. It's a big call. 

She will be under intense pressure to call a ref . After all thats apparently why most people vote for her party . In particular what has happened today in England will only increase that intensity 

2 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said:

I'd rather we had a referendum in the next 18 months or so  , don't think I could handle say 3yrs of the constant bickering and propaganda from both sides .

Yes needs to be within next couple years . 

30 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

True, and the impact of another No vote would be devastating for the party.

It’s the end for her and others if no . Surely means end of Indy for decades really ? Just playing devils advocate as I don’t care either way which way the vote would go 

[dobmisterdobster]

1 minute ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

Disagree - don’t think SNP won any list seats in the north east last time, Alba vote could be to their advantage if SNP hold the 9 constituencies

 

They didn't win any list seats because they won the lions share of the constituencies. Having to rely on the list could be a problem if the nationalist vote is fragmented.

[dtgj]

1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

They didn't win any list seats because they won the lions share of the constituencies. Having to rely on the list could be a problem if the nationalist vote is fragmented.

Suspect they are relying on picking up constituencies to get a majority rather than the list. 

[dtgj]

Glasgow Anniesland - SNP hold. Small swing SNP to Labour but not significant IMO.

[Norm]

34 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Haha the guy was hilarious, 'I'm a proud Scot and I don't want my country turning into another country'.😄 It couldn't have worked out better for Sturgeon and the SNP.

 

To clear things up about most of the rubbish people read:

 

Govanhill and Glasgow southside is the best place I've lived - I was brought up in the east end, also lived in west end (couldn't get back to southside quick enough - students are awful people to live near). Been living here the last 7 years;  people who say it's bad or it's dangerous don't live here, they rely on news reports or statistics to suit their agenda, but usually they just have leanings to the right and don't like people with different coloured skin and hard to pronounce names.

Of course, like everywhere, there's aresholes. But I've never had any negative experiences living here. In my 43 years, I've been lucky to spend a total of about 15 years in Glasgow southside and I couldn't recommend it higher to anyone who's looking to move to Glasgow. Places like Cranhill, Baillieston and Easterhouse in the east end are the places you need to worry about.

 

It gets a bad press but it really is a cool place to live - I have the best craft beer shop and bar in Glasgow 5 mins from my flat, plus food places covering every country you can think of. Big thumbs up from me.

In the interest of fairness, I spent 3 weeks working in a pub in Govanhill and it was a ****ing shit hole. Pub even got robbed. 

 

When the local boozers are offering a 3 course meal for £3, it's not a great sign. 

[Shanks said no]

4 minutes ago, dtgj said:

Suspect they are relying on picking up constituencies to get a majority rather than the list. 

That’s my reading of it as well, SNP hoping to pick up the likes of East Lothian and Edinburgh Central. List seats are a bonus. 

[OmiyaHearts]

 

2 minutes ago, Norm said:

In the interest of fairness, I spent 3 weeks working in a pub in Govanhill and it was a ****ing shit hole. Pub even got robbed. 

 

When the local boozers are offering a 3 course meal for £3, it's not a great sign. 

What pub did you work in?

 

BTW The Star Bar is is one of the best pubs in Glasgow, they offer £3 three course meal to help the elderly in the area. Awful, isn't it? Not a great sign at all.

[Malinga the Swinga]

Small signs of tactical voting. The number of seats is one thing but its overall vote count that will decide what SNP does next. 

Do NS and SNP risk going for it if lokks like 50/50 chance. If they don't, could she face pressure to resign from within. 

If she does, what happens if she loses? 

I don't like her, but I don't under estimate her political smarts either. 

Could be tough decision coming up

 

[OmiyaHearts]

2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

A packet of prawn cocktail, a packet of salt 'n' vinegar, and a digestive biscuit, yeah?

Soup to start, main meal (steak pie, fish etc) and dessert. It's a tremendous offer and the oldies take full advantage over the weekend.

Looking forward to seeing them all on 17th May.

[Ainsley Harriott]

Intresting that the seats the Nationalists have held their vote share has dropped in most. Could public opinion be swaying more away from independence than thought?

[OmiyaHearts]

41 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

 I got sent through to Glasgow regularly for a while a few years ago and the very first job was in Cranhill. It was pissing rain and had no satnav so pulled over on this steep hill to ask this big hairy local for directions. His answer was " that's near where I stay" and before I knew it he was in my van wanting a lift. I didn't argue and dropped him off.

Haha it's a mental place. I always avoided the area and still do.

[OmiyaHearts]

Just now, jonesy said:

Just a wee joke on my part - anything that encourages the oldies to get out and socialise is sound.

No bother at all. I'm just trying to drum up some business, the steak pie and chips are out of this world! 

[JackLadd]

Albaman not back in the shortbread tin. Sad. 

[sadj]

1 hour ago, indianajones said:

 

Some folk on here will be seething Nicola spoke to their hero Jayda like that. 

Jesus christ are these people for real 

[JackLadd]

3 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said:

Intresting that the seats the Nationalists have held their vote share has dropped in most. Could public opinion be swaying more away from independence than thought?

 

You'd think bribes like free bicycles and breakfasts would have got them their ref2 mandate. Sad. 

[dtgj]

Falkirk East - SNP hold. SNP lose share of vote to Labour. 

[Swahili Jambo]

1 minute ago, JackLadd said:

Albaman not back in the shortbread tin. Sad. 

TAKE THE PAIN.  Wee Nic and SNP are scootin this.  It's ****in glorious.

[Ainsley Harriott]

Just now, JackLadd said:

 

You'd think bribes like free bicycles and breakfasts would have got them their ref2 mandate. Sad. 

I say bring it on! Beat their sad we benefit claiming arses and fly the union flag high and proud.

[JackLadd]

Just now, Ainsley Harriott said:

I say bring it on! Beat their sad we benefit claiming arses and fly the union flag high and proud.

 

Good man. I'd whip them to their senses if they had any. 

[Swahili Jambo]

1 minute ago, Ainsley Harriott said:

I say bring it on! Beat their sad we benefit claiming arses and fly the union flag high and proud.

It is on and SNP are scootin it.  Deal with it.  And the only flag on a Hearts jersey is the Saltire.

[Justin Z]

Hi lads, did I miss anything while I was away?