dobmisterdobster Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, DH1986 said: UEFA or FIFA do not need to recognise this new group as an official association but I doubt the clubs will care a jot. The players might care that they can't represent their country internationally anymore. Robertson, McTominay, Tierney etc will never put on a Scotland shirt again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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132goals1958 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Hashimoto said: The danger is that this break away league becomes the Harlem globetrotters of world football... Quite clearly money via TV / internet rights is the driving force behind all of this. You get the feeling that they are trying to hold a gun to UEFA's head....Not sure that the rebels will have enough traction, or support when it comes to the crunch. The football authorities will dig their heels in and threaten anyone involved, including the players with black listing. In other words, banned from signing for a non rebel team if you sign up to play in the breakaway league. A wee bit like cricket was back in the Kerry Packer days. Don’t think it will happen but to quote an old well worn expression ‘ hell mend them if it does. It will be heading towards a TV reality show. Meaningless games without relegation would effectively create exhibition encounters. Even the current champions league is a turn off once the early results determine who progresses. The good old days is often overhyped but I am old enough to remember Burnley Ipswich Wolves Leeds Notts Forrest Blackburn Derby all winning the league when football belonged to the supporters. The romanticism of the Mathews FA cup final possibly apart from Leicester winning the Premiership is unlikely ever to happen again. However you can only destroy tradition and values up to a certain point. Foreign ownership is the scourge of the modern game. Domestic competition has and always will be the bread and butter and what supporters thrive on. Those magnates of the game are only intent on reaping rewards from the obscene global advertising opportunities and have no emotional attachment to the clubs they are basically exploiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56795811 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Won't Happen 👍 trust me. This lasted well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, Homme said: This lasted well. It still wont happen imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Am I correct in saying they expect to still be involved in their respective countries leagues (Laliga and EPL) ? so they (or their owners) will get billions to have more games ? Yet still compete at home ? it’s an easy decision then , surely UEFA ban them from their competitions and the EPL etc chuck them out also ? feel sorry for the supporters tbh or the true supporters who will condemn this. football at that level is lost. Completely busted. The fallout from this will be demonstrations, boycotts etc etc. Fan power should galvanise hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Homme said: This lasted well. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, indianajones said: It still wont happen imo. theyve signed up apparently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said: The players might care that they can't represent their country internationally anymore. Robertson, McTominay, Tierney etc will never put on a Scotland shirt again. Then they simply sign for another club. If UEFA/FIFA ban these clubs from competing domestically then the players contracts will be torn up. The players will have the choice to stay and play in the new league or join a FIFA recognised club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Ron the con will be like a teenager in a brothel tonight. Surely their total football will warrant an invite ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, indianajones said: It still wont happen imo. Their respective leagues just need to to find 3.5 billion quid to trump them and make this less appealing. It's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, 1971fozzy said: theyve signed up apparently? Yes but they are expecting to still play in domestic leagues as normal and do this super league pish mid-week. The fact UEFA and FIFA have said they will ban them and their players means this is surely a non-starter? Or are things going to get really messy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Am I correct in saying they expect to still be involved in their respective countries leagues (Laliga and EPL) ? so they (or their owners) will get billions to have more games ? Yet still compete at home ? it’s an easy decision then , surely UEFA ban them from their competitions and the EPL etc chuck them out also ? feel sorry for the supporters tbh or the true supporters who will condemn this. football at that level is lost. Completely busted. The fallout from this will be demonstrations, boycotts etc etc. Fan power should galvanise hopefully Just heard that. A team for Europe and one for the domestic league. Unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, DH1986 said: Then they simply sign for another club. If UEFA/FIFA ban these clubs from competing domestically then the players contracts will be torn up. The players will have the choice to stay and play in the new league or join a FIFA recognised club. And players registrations are held by UEFA ? Or maybe I’m wrong ? Point is if that’s the case then when these parasite clubs decide to bin them then what then ? Imagine the wages the players will be on oooft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skivingatwork Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Will be interesting to see the reaction of the PL now that it’s official. Fine, points deduction, slap on the wrist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 This is football’s Kerry Packer moment for us old folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Skivingatwork said: Will be interesting to see the reaction of the PL now that it’s official. Fine, points deduction, slap on the wrist? Panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, Tazio said: This is football’s Kerry Packer moment for us old folk. It is indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, 1971fozzy said: And players registrations are held by UEFA ? Or maybe I’m wrong ? Point is if that’s the case then when these parasite clubs decide to bin them then what then ? Imagine the wages the players will be on oooft If the clubs push ahead and are binned by their current associations, The European Super League becomes an association....albeit not one recognised by UEFA or FIFA. Nobody can stop the clubs from playing football matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berranow Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The greed is truly astounding, they want to play in two leagues at the same time. I’m sure the uglies will try to join and leave the colt teams here in case it goes tits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) "UEFA say every club and player participating in the Super League will be banned from all UEFA and FIFA competitions. UEFA will sue every participating club for 50-60 billion euros" Edited April 18, 2021 by dobmisterdobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, DH1986 said: If the clubs push ahead and are binned by their current associations, The European Super League becomes an association....albeit not one recognised by UEFA or FIFA. Nobody can stop the clubs from playing football matches. true, and the big question is will the foreign owners give a shit about anything apart from their bank accounts ? I think we know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, dobmisterdobster said: "UEFA say every club and player participating in the Super League will be banned from all UEFA and FIFA competitions. UEFA will sue every participating for 50-60 billion euros" Their very own modern day Bosman case. Popcorn time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Absolute scum. A bunch of super rich businessmen who don't understand the game, ruining the game. All clubs and any players or managers participating in this should be banned playing within FIFA/UEFA and FA football. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tazio said: This is football’s Kerry Packer moment for us old folk. The impact was significant. Colour pyjamas and helmets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Corrupt though they have shown themselves to be, FIFA and UEFA have to do everything they can to put a stop to this. It’s like Pandora’s Box. If this is allowed to happen, other less wealthy clubs will follow suit with their own idea of a breakaway European league. Before we know it we’ll have quite a few of these competitions going on, throwing even more confusion on the fixture calendar. “Atlantic” Leagues all over the place. The solidarity payments they are proposing are a bribe that we should hope the associations of the UK, Italy and Spain should tell them to shove where the sun doesn’t shine. It will be interesting to see where the impetus for this came from. I reckon one of the American owners in England. It smacks of a franchise system which they think they can force onto a sport that is alien to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, 1971fozzy said: true, and the big question is will the foreign owners give a shit about anything apart from their bank accounts ? I think we know the answer They clearly don’t.... Its going to be interesting to see what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Then they simply sign for another club. If UEFA/FIFA ban these clubs from competing domestically then the players contracts will be torn up. The players will have the choice to stay and play in the new league or join a FIFA recognised club. Correct so potentially Man Utd could lose pogba for nothing. For example ^ owners aren't stupid. Edited April 18, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Existing tv deals with sky, Amazon etc would surely be in breach as well. I would imagine there would be some sort of exclusivity clause . to be honest supply and demand will win. If folk pay to watch it then it’s a success. Grass root supporters for these clubs are not a huge factor. The clubs involved have worldwide fan bases that will likely lap this up with £££ to watch on their TVs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 They're talking about banning them from all domestic competitions. Pity the OF hadn't been involved too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Corrupt though they have shown themselves to be, FIFA and UEFA have to do everything they can to put a stop to this. It’s like Pandora’s Box. If this is allowed to happen, other less wealthy clubs will follow suit with their own idea of a breakaway European league. Before we know it we’ll have quite a few of these competitions going on, throwing even more confusion on the fixture calendar. “Atlantic” Leagues all over the place. The solidarity payments they are proposing are a bribe that we should hope the associations of the UK, Italy and Spain should tell them to shove where the sun doesn’t shine. It will be interesting to see where the impetus for this came from. I reckon one of the American owners in England. It smacks of a franchise system which they think they can force onto a sport that is alien to it. It’s JP Morgan apparently with huge Middle East backing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Homme said: They won't give a shit about that 😂 Yeah Rangers said that aswell 🤔🙄. Davis, Lafferty, Naismith, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 It's Tottenham's inclusion that has me stumped. Shite derby record, no title since 1961, FA Cup since 1991 or trophy since 2008. All they really have are feeble claims of playing football 'the right way, with flair' and a Spurs friendly media who back them to the hilt. The Hibs of North London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: "UEFA say every club and player participating in the Super League will be banned from all UEFA and FIFA competitions. UEFA will sue every participating club for 50-60 billion euros" Did they just invent a big number to sue them for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Been on the cards since they created the Champions League. Football was ****ed since that was created and this is the natural conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, martoon said: It's Tottenham's inclusion that has me stumped. Shite derby record, no title since 1961, FA Cup since 1991 or trophy since 2008. All they really have are feeble claims of playing football 'the right way, with flair' and a Spurs friendly media who back them to the hilt. The Hibs of North London. massive club though. Huge. Look at their stadia. Arsenal have won FA recently as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, martoon said: It's Tottenham's inclusion that has me stumped. Shite derby record, no title since 1961, FA Cup since 1991 or trophy since 2008. All they really have are feeble claims of playing football 'the right way, with flair' and a Spurs friendly media who back them to the hilt. The Hibs of North London. Want to be known as the big boys 😂. Massive club. But when you consider Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs aren't even in the champions league 😂😂embarrassing. Edited April 18, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, 1971fozzy said: It’s JP Morgan apparently with huge Middle East backing Yes, but they must have got a nudge from at least one club. Would they have become involved without being sounded out first by at least one of the 12 clubs? I would think they were approached by the clubs, not the other way round. But who knows in the murky world of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) Spurs though 😂 Only trophy in 30 years is the mickey mouse cup won by a gooner legend. Edited April 18, 2021 by Zico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Tazio said: Did they just invent a big number to sue them for? All lawsuits start with an imaginary big number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, Zico said: Been on the cards since they created the Champions League. Football was ****ed since that was created and this is the natural conclusion. Yep. And when it was no longer involving champions. That competition is nothing more than a money making joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Zico said: Been on the cards since they created the Champions League. Football was ****ed since that was created and this is the natural conclusion. There’s little doubt that UEFA painted themselves into a corner with the original format and even more so when they allowed non Champions in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Lawyers will be rubbing their hands tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Yes, but they must have got a nudge from at least one club. Would they have become involved without being sounded out first by at least one of the 12 clubs? I would think they were approached by the clubs, not the other way round. But who knows in the murky world of today. Liverpool and Chelsea have owners that would of been right behind it I’d wager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zico said: Spurs though 😂 Only trophy in 30 years is the mickey mouse cup won by a gooner legend. What does that matter though ? Not to these parasites. Spurs are massive. I’m sure they are in the top 10 rich list in Europe. That’s all that matters sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Homme said: This lasted well. 33 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: theyve signed up apparently? Wait and see 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 This is uncontrolled greed. They’re talking about billions meanwhile most clubs can’t afford transfer fees. Absolutely disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: What does that matter though ? Not to these parasites. Spurs are massive. I’m sure they are in the top 10 rich list in Europe. That’s all that matters sadly The irony. ‘Big clubs’ that have won **** all in three decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Liverpool and Chelsea have owners that would of been right behind it I’d wager I can see the American owners pushing it as it matches the leagues of American sport where clubs have no relegation. It protects their investment in the clubs. It is only about money as it is not about competition, fair play or fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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