80bob Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Take winning the league and RN Et al being in charge next season or another season in the championship if it was the catalyst for change on the managerial/ coaching and recruiting front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, 80bob said: Take winning the league and RN Et al being in charge next season or another season in the championship if it was the catalyst for change on the managerial/ coaching and recruiting front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Bob is the name.....so the 80 must be the IQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80bob Posted April 4, 2021 Author Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: I was asked this question today from an opposition fan as they don’t think any change will happen within our club if we win the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80bob Posted April 4, 2021 Author Share Posted April 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Bob is the name.....so the 80 must be the IQ. A genuine open question to me from an opposition fan . For me personally, get the league done and Robbie has 10 games to secure his job in the new season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, 80bob said: A genuine open question to me from an opposition fan . For me personally, get the league done and Robbie has 10 games to secure his job in the new season So see before these 10 games we are giving him, we allow him to pish our money away on pish new players again......sounds like a thought through plan right enough! 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Not sure what's more annoying, the idiotic question, or the clickbait title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, 80bob said: A genuine open question to me from an opposition fan . For me personally, get the league done and Robbie has 10 games to secure his job in the new season If only we’d had recent experience of giving a failed manager the first round of matches in the new season, we’d be able to take a guess on whether or not your option is advisable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Thomaso said: So see before these 10 games we are giving him, we allow him to pish our money away on pish new players again......sounds like a thought through plan right enough! 😏 Yup and fully believe it may happen. Its madness but so is picking the same team with the same tactics/substitutions etc week in week out and expecting results to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 ****ing hell........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Hearts getting promoted has to come first, unfortunately if budge can't see that Neilson hasn't got what it takes to deliver what is expected, then sadly there is not alot we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Hearts getting promoted has to come first, unfortunately if budge can't see that Neilson hasn't got what it takes to deliver what is expected, then sadly there is not alot we can do. In a nutshell. I do believe she'll dig her heels in and insist he gets a chance in the top flight. Tough times ahead I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80bob Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, GinRummy said: In a nutshell. I do believe she'll dig her heels in and insist he gets a chance in the top flight. Tough times ahead I reckon. Iam not the most literate or best at putting thoughts into words but that was the point I was trying to get across. I think AB will feel he deserves a go at the top flight but he will be given certain number of games to prove that regardless of what fans think or want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, 80bob said: Iam not the most literate or best at putting thoughts into words but that was the point I was trying to get across. I think AB will feel he deserves a go at the top flight but he will be given certain number of games to prove that regardless of what fans think or want. I think you're OP was a good one despite the daft replies. There have been several posters who have said on other threads they would lose a match if it hastened Robbies departure. Folk said the same when they wanted shot of Levein. I've never really changed my opinion on what AB will do at the end of the season. Despite all the rumours I absolutely believe she'll give him a go next season. Promotion, with or without Robbie, remains key. If that means we have to suffer him longer then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Promotion all day long, I can't stand another minute of being in this league. Ann will never got shot of Neilson either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said: Promotion all day long, I can't stand another minute of being in this league. Ann will never got shot of Neilson either. Correct quicker we are out of this tin pot league the better. just gotta hope he doesn’t take us straight back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said: Promotion all day long, I can't stand another minute of being in this league. Ann will never got shot of Neilson either. I can assure you she will if season ticket sales plummet in the summer, and the way it's looking at the moment, that's a certainty to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Thomaso said: So see before these 10 games we are giving him, we allow him to pish our money away on pish new players again......sounds like a thought through plan right enough! 😏 This. Poor start and you end up fighting to make top 6. No thanks. Winthe championship and boot robbie and budge tae **** oot the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leipzig76 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 hours ago, 80bob said: I was asked this question today from an opposition fan as they don’t think any change will happen within our club if we win the league "opposition fan" ????? What century were you born in ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, 80bob said: Iam not the most literate or best at putting thoughts into words but that was the point I was trying to get across. I think AB will feel he deserves a go at the top flight but he will be given certain number of games to prove that regardless of what fans think or want. Agreed. That’s what she done with Levein. Shite way to run a football club when she couldn’t wait to bin a manager, without telling them first because she hates him (Stendel), but will give her cosy yes men as much time as they need to **** things up. Neilson has us knocked out the league cup and Scottish cup by part time sides and we’re stumbling over the line to win the league. Yet another big squad revamp in the summer looms. Then Neilson will get a round of fixtures during which we’ll be bottom 6. And that’ll be another season wasted under the self-proclaimed control freak Budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I can’t handle another season in the championship so would rather promoted with Neilson. Even if we have to sack him after the first round of games then we are in a better place than now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I think she'll sack him if he doesn't meet the expectations of the board. Not the supporters, which is the correct way to go about running a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Promotion 100% but we need to act at the end of the season. Obviously the time to act was immediately after Brora but that ship has sailed. We cannot allow Robbie a summer to sign 5 or 6 duds. We will though, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) Promotion, this league is utter jobbies. Edited April 5, 2021 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: I think she'll sack him if he doesn't meet the expectations of the board. Not the supporters, which is the correct way to go about running a football club. Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Promotion but I would go for jkb having a poll after each game as to whether we should change managers and board members and get rid of players - its the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, DG_HMFC said: Promotion all day long, I can't stand another minute of being in this league. Ann will never got shot of Neilson either. He's not been sacked as the league has been won since the first game. If we don't win the league, he'll be sacked. If we have a cathro esq start to the season he'll be sacked also imo. We won't tho 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I just want to win the league and Neilson to leave, anything else is not acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Promotion but I would go for jkb having a poll after each game as to whether we should change managers and board members and get rid of players - its the future If that works, then we could expand it into the, match day. Vote for subs etc. Real life football manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: If that works, then we could expand it into the, match day. Vote for subs etc. Real life football manager. indeed what could go wrong with all the expertise we have on board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Get back up this season is vital for the health of the club but getting a manager who can motivate a team on a weekly basis is also a huge priority. Neilson does not have the motivational skills that will be required to see us progress beyond just surviving in the Premiership and he has to go at the end of this season. I expect us to keep crawling towards the championship crown with a point at home on Friday but we need to get up this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I've said this before. I want Neilson gone but not at the expense of having to spend an other year in the championship that would absolute madness to want that. Fall across the finish line and if he's here next season so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauchiejambo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Imagine the following scenario (However unlikely you may find it): The present management team do their transfer business over the close season and start the new season with a run of positive results, after 8 games we are unbeaten, and top 3 of he table....what then? Would the majority of supporters be behind them or would the ill feeling from this season still poison the well? What would the reaction be if at that point the management team was sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avhudtheteeshirt Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 When we win the league, sacking the manager who won it will be on a par with sacking by Romanov of Burley!!! Robbie was brought in to win the league, its not been pretty, but it looks like job done! Each new season is a fresh start, so if he gets resources and better players in I can't see next season being as bad??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Hearts getting promoted has to come first, unfortunately if budge can't see that Neilson hasn't got what it takes to deliver what is expected, then sadly there is not alot we can do. Withdraw your financial support,thats the only way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, avhudtheteeshirt said: When we win the league, sacking the manager who won it will be on a par with sacking by Romanov of Burley!!! Robbie was brought in to win the league, its not been pretty, but it looks like job done! Each new season is a fresh start, so if he gets resources and better players in I can't see next season being as bad??? You know that is nonsense though. We are in a league below Burley's team. That is the very obvious difference. We ignored the warning signs with Levein and will, I think, ignore the warning signs with Robbie. His target was indeed promotion, his week to week job is getting the best out of his players. He either isn't or is incapable of doing his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: You know that is nonsense though. We are in a league below Burley's team. That is the very obvious difference. We ignored the warning signs with Levein and will, I think, ignore the warning signs with Robbie. His target was indeed promotion, his week to week job is getting the best out of his players. He either isn't or is incapable of doing his job. Does any manager get the best out of his players week to week tho? The answer is very few, if any do. The performance should be judged over a season. Assuming we get promoted it reads 1st in championship Beat hibs in last years sc. Out to alloa in the last 16 of the lc Out to Brora before the sc even started. Is that over a season 100% sackable, imo- no. However there are enough extremely poor results to warrant answers and if he was sacked I wouldn't be 100% suprised despite promotion and the efforts in last seasons sc. Either way I'll back the manager and team whoever takes us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Thomaso said: So see before these 10 games we are giving him, we allow him to pish our money away on pish new players again......sounds like a thought through plan right enough! 😏 Spot on Thomaso. The biggest problem with that is Neilson gets in players for the new season and also keeps his dross. His judgement is badly flawed and after 10 games a new manager comes and says i'm going to need 18 months to move a lot of these guys on and get new players in. And of course some of the duds have signed 3 to 4 year contracts and are will just to sit on their arse pocketing the wage, now we have seen this a few times. I'm afraid 80BOB isn't looking at the long term damage Neilson could do by giving him 10 games into the new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I think Robbie will be here at the start of the season, unless there is a massive decrease in ST sales - and who knows when they'll even be put out. Obviously by this time Robbie will have been in charge of the signings and built his own team - getting rid of him and bringing in someone else will write off another season. I think as long as we're not bottom 3 after 10 games he'll stay. Looking at Raiths result against Ross County, I don't expect us to come straight back down (who was the last team to win the championship and be relegated the year after?), I think we'll finish a disappointing lower mid table 7-9th. Its hard too get too excited sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Does any manager get the best out of his players week to week tho? The answer is very few, if any do. The performance should be judged over a season. Assuming we get promoted it reads 1st in championship Beat hibs in last years sc. Out to alloa in the last 16 of the lc Out to Brora before the sc even started. Is that over a season 100% sackable, imo- no. However there are enough extremely poor results to warrant answers and if he was sacked I wouldn't be 100% suprised despite promotion and the efforts in last seasons sc. Either way I'll back the manager and team whoever takes us forward. Of course no manager can get the best out of his team every week but the results recently have been beyond the pale. As far as the main target of promotion is concerned it was a success. I, along with many others, think recent results point to the fact he’s not the manager to take us forward. The warning signs are plain to see. how much criticism would you and others who support, or are open to, him stating would you level at Ann Budge if she sacked him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: indeed what could go wrong with all the expertise we have on board We could get beat of a Highland League team in the second round of the cup if we took that approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Of course no manager can get the best out of his team every week but the results recently have been beyond the pale. As far as the main target of promotion is concerned it was a success. I, along with many others, think recent results point to the fact he’s not the manager to take us forward. The warning signs are plain to see. how much criticism would you and others who support, or are open to, him stating would you level at Ann Budge if she sacked him? I can see merit either way Tbh. I can understand why he would be kept on, I can also understand why he'd be sacked. So, in terms of criticism - none. I see the reasons why he'd be kept on and the reasons for sacking him. Whatever happens I'll get behind the team and management whoever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, Smith's right boot said: I can see merit either way Tbh. I can understand why he would be kept on, I can also understand why he'd be sacked. So, in terms of criticism - none. I see the reasons why he'd be kept on and the reasons for sacking him. Whatever happens I'll get behind the team and management whoever it is. I’m sure most will if he turns results around. I just don’t see that as likely but I don’t care who the manager is, all I want is a side that can take its rightful place near the top of the spl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m sure most will if he turns results around. I just don’t see that as likely but I don’t care who the manager is, all I want is a side that can take its rightful place near the top of the spl. Me neither. This season, particularly now after the Brora result is horrible. Wouldn't matter who manages us now, the atmosphere will be terrible, half the team leaving, little to play for. We still need to win a couple of games tho or it won't even be a debate as promotion might not be guaranteed! Without the Brora result I'd have been more than happy with Neilson, and I don't like sacking folk of the back of cup results. However that defeat was beyond bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I had the same reaction as Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Me neither. This season, particularly now after the Brora result is horrible. Wouldn't matter who manages us now, the atmosphere will be terrible, half the team leaving, little to play for. We still need to win a couple of games tho or it won't even be a debate as promotion might not be guaranteed! Without the Brora result I'd have been more than happy with Neilson, and I don't like sacking folk of the back of cup results. However that defeat was beyond bad. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: I think she'll sack him if he doesn't meet the expectations of the board. Not the supporters, which is the correct way to go about running a football club. Because the board seem to be “impotent” just now those expectations could be nothing more than a cup run and top six next season. Nothing surprises anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 hours ago, sauchiejambo said: Imagine the following scenario (However unlikely you may find it): The present management team do their transfer business over the close season and start the new season with a run of positive results, after 8 games we are unbeaten, and top 3 of he table....what then? Would the majority of supporters be behind them or would the ill feeling from this season still poison the well? What would the reaction be if at that point the management team was sacked? Levein became more popular with the fans when he did the same. I do wonder how that season would've gone had he not had a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 10 hours ago, GinRummy said: I think you're OP was a good one despite the daft replies. There have been several posters who have said on other threads they would lose a match if it hastened Robbies departure. Folk said the same when they wanted shot of Levein. I've never really changed my opinion on what AB will do at the end of the season. Despite all the rumours I absolutely believe she'll give him a go next season. Promotion, with or without Robbie, remains key. If that means we have to suffer him longer then so be it. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauchiejambo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: I don't know how many times I have seen supposed shining light of the season until recently Irvine give away possession with poor simple passes under no pressure. Agreed, another case of a promising youngster being over hyped,to me he gets caught in possession to often and don't start me on the saviour Liam bounce, Holy shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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