Derek Mcinnes

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, Aussie Jambo said:

Few that stick out:

Pressley

Lambert (if we could afford him)

Sol Campbell (worth s pint)

Pressley sticks out as a manager with no success whatsoever 

[Pasquale for King]

3 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Billy Davies you say 

Turns out he was probably right about how the “football department” needed to be restructured.

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

There isn’t a perfect manager out there for us imo......we don’t have the dough to get a Burley and sign players of the quality he did.....so we need to be realistic.

 

Like you say....we need stability and McInnes has the least risky track record and from any realistic names I’ve seen banded about.

 

 

Can’t argue with that tbh. 

[pointon]

😂😂😂 so for those rubbishing this possibility who is this connoisseur of all things football that’s goito lead us to a better level ? Answers on a back of a stamp

[Pasquale for King]

3 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Excluding someone because they are a hun isn’t narrow minded at all right enough 😒

Would you be ok with Lennon or Stubbs then 🤷🏾‍♂️🤔😜?!?!

[Hairdryer]

15 minutes ago, The Shed Floodlight said:

Ferguson will never leave Everton, he is learning more from the Italian in charge, and will be the manager down at Everton when Ancelloti moves on. 

Duncan ferguson appears happy in a coaching role at Everton. He will never work up in Scotland as he still holds a grudge against the sfa

[GinRummy]

Just now, pointon said:

😂😂😂 so for those rubbishing this possibility who is this connoisseur of all things football that’s goito lead us to a better level ? Answers on a back of a stamp

Ann Budge frantically searching along the corridor as we speak 😏

[Aussie Jambo]

5 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Pressley sticks out as a manager with no success whatsoever 

😂😂 it was the token X player but yeh he would be gash. 

Edited April 2, 2021 by Aussie Jambo

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, pointon said:

😂😂😂 so for those rubbishing this possibility who is this connoisseur of all things football that’s goito lead us to a better level ? Answers on a back of a stamp

We all laughed when Rangers went for Gerrard, even Hibs with Stubbs who . . . Well you know what he did. 
Clubs find young managers/coaches all the time that go on to succeed, we have to hope we are in the market soon and Savage has some ideas. 

[JamboAl]

5 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

There isn’t a perfect manager out there for us imo......we don’t have the dough to get a Burley and sign players of the quality he did.....so we need to be realistic.

 

Like you say....we need stability and McInnes has the least risky track record and from any realistic names I’ve seen banded about.

 

 

We didn't have the dough then either as later events proved.

[JimmyCant]

20 minutes ago, Debut 4 said:

I`m caught in the middle with my thoughts.  Hearts need to learn to walk before they can run again. McInnes would be a solid appointment if not spectacular.  A manager with a recent track record, not someone who strutted his stuff 15 years ago and wants back in the game.

 

People point to his failings in big games or against the Old Firm, but does that necessarily mean it`ll happen at Hearts? We have a different DNA to the Sheep. The passion we can show would be something McInnes would buy into. We failed in many big games ourselves without McInnes and i know that`s not necessarily the point, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

 

Can Hearts afford to miss the bus on what would probably be a decent stabilising appointment?  

 

 

Taking McInnes as a stop gap stabiliser for 2 years is a decent shout. But essential to that for me would be that he has a carefully selected younger assistant from the start who would be ready to take over after 2 years. Someone like Calum Davidson for example. That way you have a shot at continuity which we desperately need IMO 

[Pasquale for King]

3 minutes ago, Hairdryer said:

Duncan ferguson appears happy in a coaching role at Everton. He will never work up in Scotland as he still holds a grudge against the sfa

Who doesn’t?

[JimmyCant]

5 minutes ago, Hairdryer said:

Duncan ferguson appears happy in a coaching role at Everton. He will never work up in Scotland as he still holds a grudge against the sfa

He’d take the Rangers job in a minute if it became free

[Clark Griswold]

I’m sorry but I think the structure of the club needs to change before any manager gets a chance to succeed at our club. Until that happens it won’t matter who the manager is 

[Aussie Jambo]

14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Billy Davies you say 

I know. 

He did well at Nottingham Forrest. Impressive CV. 

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/billy-davies-87878257

[Mikey1874]

25 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

It’s how it ended for him at Aberdeen that concerns me a bit. Safety first, mind numbing football. Hopefully it just went a bit stale for him there. His appointment would make sense on a lot of levels but I do have some concerns. No least that his best days are behind him regardless of where he ends up. Equally he could relish the new challenge and stabilise us the way he stabilised Aberdeen, which seems an attractive prospect just now. I’m torn tbh. 

 

Depends on how Dave Cormack has approached things. 

 

New owners very often change the manager. Covid has impacted things too.

 

I wouldn't have sacked McInnes. 

[JimmyCant]

8 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Would you be ok with Lennon or Stubbs then 🤷🏾‍♂️🤔😜?!?!

No because I think McInnes is a far better manager than both of them. I’d have taken Scott Brown as player coach. I’d take Griffiths. I’d have taken Nisbet and still would. We’ve had several ex employees of Celtic at the club and you struggle to find an out and out failure amongst them. I don’t care where they’ve been as long as they’re 100 percenters when they come to us

[Toxteth O'Grady]

8 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

I’m sorry but I think the structure of the club needs to change before any manager gets a chance to succeed at our club. Until that happens it won’t matter who the manager is 

Yes - Budge and her cronies need to go or any manager will have his hands tied

Edited April 2, 2021 by Toxteth O'Grady

[Mikey1874]

4 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

I’m sorry but I think the structure of the club needs to change before any manager gets a chance to succeed at our club. Until that happens it won’t matter who the manager is 

 

The structure is changing. Andrew McKinlay. Joe Savage. 

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

No because I think McInnes is a far better manager than both of them. I’d have taken Scott Brown as player coach. I’d take Griffiths. I’d have taken Nisbet and still would. We’ve had several ex employees of Celtic at the club and you struggle to find an out and out failure amongst them. I don’t care where they’ve been as long as they’re 100 percenters when they come to us

Fair enough. 

[Auldbenches]

1 hour ago, qferryjam said:

He’s got a shocking record at Tynie as well so the ideal fit 

It just feels like another steady appointment if true. 

[Auldbenches]

21 minutes ago, pointon said:

😂😂😂 so for those rubbishing this possibility who is this connoisseur of all things football that’s goito lead us to a better level ? Answers on a back of a stamp

Why not just advertise the job to see who else is out there?

 

[JimmyCant]

4 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Why not just advertise the job to see who else is out there?

 

Have we got time for another 4-6 week recruitment process if RN doesn’t go till the end of the season ? 

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

Have we got time for another 4-6 week recruitment process if RN doesn’t go till the end of the season ? 

What's 4 weeks when it comes to getting it right?   She took that long to appoint both levein and stendel.

This is too important an appointment to not take our time.

So we give it to McInnes for that reason? 

[martoon]

42 minutes ago, Yoda said:

Me too.  The number of season tickets sold will also be impacted.

 

I won't be renewing ours, bud, if it's still Budge/Neilson.

 

No chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jambocub]

4 hours ago, CloustonHMFC said:

Not enough of an upgrade to warrant the money involved in getting rid of the rest plus the wage he would want.

How much would it cost ?

[JimmyCant]

5 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

What's 4 weeks when it comes to getting it right?   She took that long to appoint both levein and stendel.

This is too important an appointment to not take our time.

So we give it to McInnes for that reason? 

We’ve taken far too long in some cases. Needs to be in place in time to asses the squad and ramp it up and get it working before competitive games start. 8/9 weeks or so between the last game and the first game of next season. Taking half of that to find a new manager would be stupid IMO 

[soonbe110]

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

Scottish football is a backwater, not helped by the acceptance of poorly run clubs managed by mugs like Levein and Neilson. 
As for Preston being within easy driving distance of lots of clubs you are narrowing your possibilities if you are unwilling to move was the point that you missed. 
Im sure Brendan Rodgers, Steven Gerrard and now Eddie Howe were prepared to move. 

Some will, some won’t. They will all have their reasons. Howe tried moving once before and didn’t last long at Burnley before  heading back home. Hasn’t moved anywhere else since. 

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

We’ve taken far too long in some cases. Needs to be in place in time to asses the squad and ramp it up and get it working before competitive games start. 8/9 weeks or so between the last game and the first game of next season. Taking half of that to find a new manager would be stupid IMO 

Not as stupid as not looking to see who else is available.  Fans won't take a slow start with McInnes and accept that it'll click when he gets a couple of transfer windows.  Not with the type of football he plays.  

Watching more levein type cautious football for another season while we wait?   

The fans will give him more time if he was the best candidate, but not if it's just another lazy appointment. 

Might as well just stick with neilson while waiting for it to all fall into place.

Just look to see who else is our there and that way we will know if he was the best one.

He wasn't cheap at Aberdeen,  I heard nearly a million a year. 

Boring rubbish after what we've been through? 

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, Auldbenches said:

Not as stupid as not looking to see who else is available.  Fans won't take a slow start with McInnes and accept that it'll click when he gets a couple of transfer windows.  Not with the type of football he plays.  

Watching more levein type cautious football for another season while we wait?   

The fans will give him more time if he was the best candidate, but not if it's just another lazy appointment. 

Might as well just stick with neilson while waiting for it to all fall into place.

Just look to see who else is our there and that way we will know if he was the best one.

He wasn't cheap at Aberdeen,  I heard nearly a million a year. 

Boring rubbish after what we've been through? 

It was nearer £750k,  one of the reasons he didn’t go to Rangers was he had to take a pay cut 😆. 

[Rogue Daddy]

1 hour ago, The_razors_edge said:

That was me. He took in our game against Arbroath. My mate plays for Arbroath. For the record I wouldn’t want McInnes. Said on another thread I’d love us to sound out Duncan Ferguson. See if he fancies a crack at being the main man. 

👍...glad I wasn’t imagining it 😂! Big Dunc would certainly sort out a few ‘attitudes’, you’re right. He’s definitely the type of ‘left field’ character I would prefer! I would have thought there would be a queue of managers that would love to prove that (with a club of our stature and size), putting in a challenge to the uglies shouldn’t be that unbelievable. 

[1971fozzy]

52 minutes ago, Aussie Jambo said:

Few that stick out:

Pressley

Lambert (if we could afford him)

Sol Campbell (worth s pint)

[Auldbenches]

Just now, Pasquale for King said:

It was nearer £750k,  one of the reasons he didn’t go to Rangers was he had to take a pay cut 😆. 

She has already failed by appointing two managers without advising the job, so why make the same mistake again just for a few weeks?

We need to get this right so look at all the options. 

 

[My half sister]

I’m not sure what Alex Neil has done to deserve getting a mention. 
Norwich took a punt on him based on a few games he’d had at Hamilton. He’s had Preston bouncing around mid table since he joined them. No thanks, I’d prefer to take a chance with Davidson or Robinson

Edited April 2, 2021 by My half sister
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[gashauskis9]

Mcinnes is too much of his own man to fit into our current structure.

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, Auldbenches said:

She has already failed by appointing two managers without advising the job, so why make the same mistake again just for a few weeks?

We need to get this right so look at all the options. 

 

Definitely. She shouldn’t be anywhere near the decision to be honest. 

[bistokid]

Just now, My half sister said:

I’m not sure what Alex Neil has done to deserve getting a mention. 
Norwich took a pint on him based on a few games he’d had at Hamilton. He’s had Preston bouncing around mid table since he joined them. No thanks, I’d prefer to take a chance with Davidson or Robinson

Alex Neil took a struggling Norwich to the Premiership after taking Hamilton to the top six. He had Preston punching above their eeight for a few seasons but  ultimately budget and injuries caught up with him. In terms of known quantities he's probably at the too end of what we could potentially attract and even then i doubt he'd come here. 

[Auld Reekin']

2 hours ago, David Black said:

Right, that would explain why I always log in to the wrong porn sites. Thanks. I'll remember for future reference.

 

[1971fozzy]

6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Definitely. She shouldn’t be anywhere near the decision to be honest. 

100% she shouldn’t have any say given the arse she has made of it since Robbie left years ago.  Leave it to somebody who knows about that side of it.

[ramrod]

 Cant see it as there is no way Ann is sacking Robbie.

Would be a great appointment. Get us back to being organised in terms of football, training and recruitment. 

Maybe if Robbie went by mutual consent as I think McInnes would jump at the chance imo.

[Pasquale for King]

Just now, 1971fozzy said:

100% she shouldn’t have any say given the arse she has made of it since Robbie left years ago.  Leave it to somebody who knows about that side of it.

Savage has to do it for me. 
McCann doing well at ICT. 

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

Excluding someone because they are a hun isn’t narrow minded at all right enough 😒

The word was used descriptively - it isn’t the reason I don’t want him.

 

I get that subtle nuances of the English language may be beyond some but I have explained elsewhere why I think he would be a backward thinking appointment.

[kingantti1874]

2 minutes ago, ramrod said:

 Cant see it as there is no way Ann is sacking Robbie.

Would be a great appointment. Get us back to being organised in terms of football, training and recruitment. 

Maybe if Robbie went by mutual consent as I think McInnes would jump at the chance imo.

Ann budge will be handing over the shares shortly.

[Aussie Jambo]

7 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

 

👏👏

[Guest ToqueJambo]

3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Savage has to do it for me. 
McCann doing well at ICT. 

 

McCann was absolutely ripped to shreds on here when he was mentioned as a Hearts candidate before. 

 

McInness - give me strength. I thought people wanted entertaining football. He's worse than Levein and Neilson put together. Physical, one-dimensional football all over the shop and a record of bottling it on the big occasions. Atrocious given the resources he's had to build a team that should be able to play football. Could barely buy a goal this season. Jesus!

 

It would have to be time for Robbo.

Edited April 2, 2021 by ToqueJambo

[The_razors_edge]

10 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

👍...glad I wasn’t imagining it 😂! Big Dunc would certainly sort out a few ‘attitudes’, you’re right. He’s definitely the type of ‘left field’ character I would prefer! I would have thought there would be a queue of managers that would love to prove that (with a club of our stature and size), putting in a challenge to the uglies shouldn’t be that unbelievable. 

No you’re mind isn’t playing tricks on you 😁. As I said earlier what have you got to lose by asking the question? He certainly wouldn’t accept the performances we’ve witnessed recently. I’m sure Neil Warnock said himself he’d fancy a crack at managing hearts or hibs and having a go at the OF. I agree...There will be managers out there with the skills, knowledge, experience and confidence in their ability who would genuinely relish the challenge of creating history up here by winning the league with a club outside of the OF. 

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

5 minutes ago, ramrod said:

 Cant see it as there is no way Ann is sacking Robbie.

Would be a great appointment. Get us back to being organised in terms of football, training and recruitment. 

Maybe if Robbie went by mutual consent as I think McInnes would jump at the chance imo.

What would be “great” about it?

 

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he went downhill at Aberdeen since Rangers got back up and started building their team.

 

His success is almost solely based on a league without Rangers. Even Robbie owned Rangers when he was with us.... McInnes has never owned them.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Tom Hardy’s Dug

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

McCann was absolutely ripped to shreds on here when he was mentioned as a Hearts candidate before. 

 

McInness - give me strength. I thought people wanted entertaining football. He's worse than Levein and Neilson put together. Physical, one-dimensional football all over the shop and a record of bottling it on the big occasions. Atrocious given the resources he's had to build a team that should be able to play football. Could barely buy a goal this season. Jesus!

This

[Guest ToqueJambo]

Just now, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

What would be “great” about it?

 

Ondont think it’s a coincidence that he went downhill at Aberdeen since Rangers got back up and started building their team.

 

His success is almost solely based on a league without Rangers. Even Robbie owned Rangers when he was with us.... McInnes has never owned them.

 

This x 100. If we're talking about Neilson's bad results, what about McInnes getting owned by Gary Locke and a team of teenagers plus Jamie Hammil?

[Cruyff]

1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

This x 100. If we're talking about Neilson's bad results, what about McInnes getting owned by Gary Locke and a team of teenagers plus Jamie Hammil?

Brenda Rodgers got owned by Craig Levein. Does that make BR a shit manager?