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22 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

8 years of European football...yes please. 

A lot of that was down to hardly any opposition, not for me. Just another Establishment Stooge. 

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4 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Had he not stopped playing Shay Logan as well? and we've just signed Shay Logan 😂

I’m sure he’d be happy to see him if his gushing twitter goodbye is anything to go by. 

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I don't want him. 

 

Youth development and having a cohesive style of play is important to me. I realise other fans will differ, but after several years of watching Leveinball, I really don't want to watch McInnesball, which is a more successful version of Leveinball.  The Dons fans were every bit as depressed as we were watching the shite McInnes was serving up. I want a feeling of being on a journey to building something. McInnes does not inspire me at all. Neil would, several times over in fact. 

 

If what another poster posted about Alex Neil not wanting to uproot his family for a gamble, then the club should be looking at what would make this not a gamble for him. i.e what can the club do to support him. 

 

Neilson is a lame duck IMO as there isn't a way back from the Brora result in amongst everything else.

 

I'm far more open to the idea of Neil McCann now, than I was last summer. I'd like a manager who can coach his players to make them better, rather than a manager that signs his way out of trouble with 28 year olds we can't sell on for money. 

 

1.) Alex Neil - Proven track record working with young players

2.) Stephen Robinson - Motherwells academy has been generating talent hand over fist. He's not shirked playing them and seems a steady hand. 

3.) Neil McCann - I think he's got an attacking philosophy and could be an interesting curveball

4.) Daniel Stendel  - I think we made an error letting him go. He was dealt a shit hand and deserved more support. I doubt he'd return or Budge would swallow her pride. But I'd certainly like to see him given a full summer window to rebuild the squad as he intended to do. 

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1 hour ago, pointon said:

Rumours a foot he might be coming in for new season is there any foundation to this ?

 

Really hope not.

We can do better.

That's not to say it wouldn't work but a no for me.

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He has his teams playing the same boring, route 1 shite fit aw that Robbie and Levein do so he must be quite popular with Ann already

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Don’t think he’s related to budge so its a non-starter. 
 

She will give the job to someone she knows and trusts, my money would be on levein or her brother. 

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2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

Just out of interest who would the people saying No actually go for? 

Not overly keen on mcinnes but don’t pay much attention to football outwith the league Hearts are in. Can you think of anyone ?

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Would take McInness over Neilson every day of you week, but I would hope we are looking at all options when job becomes available.

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1 minute ago, Agentjambo said:

Just out of interest who would the people saying No actually go for? 


Alex Neil I think it most people's first choice, a "Stendel type"-someone with no relation to Scottish football with a clear tactical style, Robinson (not for me), Neil McCann (definitely not for me), then others are saying they want an ex player to have a go, a definite no from me. 

I'm not totally against McInnes, but I'm more hopeful we get someone with a clear attacking style and ability to blood in the youth players, plus not shitting it against the OF. I don't think that's McInnes. 

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3 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

Just out of interest who would the people saying No actually go for? 

 

Alex Neil or Stephen Robinson would both be candidates with the approach I'd like to see. 

 

McInnes is just another Levein/Neilson so I'm really loathe to see us repeat the last 6 years. 

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57 minutes ago, cosanostra said:

No chance IMO.

I don't think AB has the stones to punt Robbie without at least another half season of utter trash football, results and excuses.

 

I haven't read the rest of the thread after this to see if the rumours might be true but personally I agree with you. Robbie was given the task of getting us back in the Premiership. Despite the disappointing quality of our players and our play, this is what he will almost surely do. She won't be replacing him, imo.

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No Idle Talk

The closest I want McInnes to get to the home dugout at Tynecastle is the away dugout. I concede he would be an upgrade on Robbie Neilson but McInnes' teams are unexciting to watch as well. If you are fed up with the kind of football we are playing under Robbie Neilson, but you want Derek McInnes to replace him, then you are not really paying attention. 

 

I would rather bring back Daniel Stendel(yes I know that is never going to happen, I'm just saying). At least with Stendel it felt like we were being introduced a fast paced, attacking brand of football. That's the direction I want to see the team travelling in. I'm not sure how I feel about Alex Neil or Neil McCann at this juncture but I would be more inclined to give them a go than see McInnes get the job.

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3 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I haven't read the rest of the thread after this to see if the rumours might be true but personally I agree with you. Robbie was given the task of getting us back in the Premiership. Despite the disappointing quality of our players and our play, this is what he will almost surely do. She won't be replacing him, imo.

You might be right but I’m not so sure. I honestly think it could hang on how results go from here. I’m not talking about if we get promoted or not because we will go up. The feelings of the fans is hotly debated on here, some saying the anger is exaggerated on jkb and some saying the opposite but I believe the unrest is growing and is increasingly aimed at Ann. That must be the last thing she wants, firstly because nobody wants the heat on them for someone else’s results but more importantly because you can’t piss off your customers. You can’t run a business that way. 
 

Football is fickle. Regardless of what anyone says if we go out and beat Dunfermline 3-0 tomorrow the pressure is off and some people start to believe that everything could maybe be ok. Lose 1-0 and the pressure ramps up on the club. It is on a knife edge imo. 

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14 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I'd rather stick with Neilson than bring in McInnes, and I'm not joking 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. OK no worries Robbie. 

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34 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

A lot of that was down to hardly any opposition, not for me. Just another Establishment Stooge. 

What we're hearts up to during those years...

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1 minute ago, GinRummy said:

You might be right but I’m not so sure. I honestly think it could hang on how results go from here. I’m not talking about if we get promoted or not because we will go up. The feelings of the fans is hotly debated on here, some saying the anger is exaggerated on jkb and some saying the opposite but I believe the unrest is growing and is increasingly aimed at Ann. That must be the last thing she wants, firstly because nobody wants the heat on them for someone else’s results but more importantly because you can’t piss off your customers. You can’t run a business that way. 
 

Football is fickle. Regardless of what anyone says if we go out and beat Dunfermline 3-0 tomorrow the pressure is off and some people start to believe that everything could maybe be ok. Lose 1-0 and the pressure ramps up on the club. It is on a knife edge imo. 

 

A fair point.

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20 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Alex Neil or Stephen Robinson would both be candidates with the approach I'd like to see. 

 

McInnes is just another Levein/Neilson so I'm really loathe to see us repeat the last 6 years. 

I barely remember Neil at Hamilton. There were suggestions on here that he was quite a defensive manager. Is that not true then?

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30 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I'd rather stick with Neilson than bring in McInnes, and I'm not joking 

That's where I'm at. Alex Neil is my choice but don't ever want Mciness

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Spoke to a sheep fan at work today. Said he was absolutely gutted to see McInnes go and was gutted Logan had left.

Would love to see any player try to call him by his first name, like him or not McInnes would demand respect. Could it be that we just need a firm hand in the dressing room?

On a separate note he said the sheep support is very divided over Brown going to them. Most of them absolutely hate him (for good reason).

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10 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

You might be right but I’m not so sure. I honestly think it could hang on how results go from here. I’m not talking about if we get promoted or not because we will go up. The feelings of the fans is hotly debated on here, some saying the anger is exaggerated on jkb and some saying the opposite but I believe the unrest is growing and is increasingly aimed at Ann. That must be the last thing she wants, firstly because nobody wants the heat on them for someone else’s results but more importantly because you can’t piss off your customers. You can’t run a business that way. 
 

Football is fickle. Regardless of what anyone says if we go out and beat Dunfermline 3-0 tomorrow the pressure is off and some people start to believe that everything could maybe be ok. Lose 1-0 and the pressure ramps up on the club. It is on a knife edge imo. 

A win tomorrow changes nothing with regards to the general feeling towards Neilson. In my eyes he is dead man walking as no hearts manager should survive the likes of the Brora defeat. He may see this season out but I doubt he will be here next season. 

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Could be the axe is hovering over Neilson but I just don't see Budge sacking him when he's close to the title. 250 fewer foh pledges are nowhere near enough to concern her. McInnes would be an upgrade of course.

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Ford Prentice

McInnes would divide the support from the outset. Robbie mk 2. Surely there is someone out there who could bring us together and engender a bit of optimism.

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Not sure how McInnes is another Levein/Neilson, from what I recall his Aberdeen teams played front foot, passing football.  Can't say I want him though, I'm sure he would fancy a job down south and he's never going to take Hearts above their capabilities, just get them playing to them.  I want another Stendell type appointment that just might break us through the glass ceiling the old firm and sfa have in place.  We're dull and unexciting to watch and not blooding youngsters, which is why I want Neilson gone, but we're not fire fighting like when Stendell came, time to try again.

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27 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I haven't read the rest of the thread after this to see if the rumours might be true but personally I agree with you. Robbie was given the task of getting us back in the Premiership. Despite the disappointing quality of our players and our play, this is what he will almost surely do. She won't be replacing him, imo.

I get the feeling he'll get promotion then debus. None of us want him here. Once that's on his CV he can ride off into the sunset.

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Just now, Boris5115 said:

A win tomorrow changes nothing with regards to the general feeling towards Neilson. In my eyes he is dead man walking as no hearts manager should survive the likes of the Brora defeat. He may see this season out but I doubt he will be here next season. 

It changes nothing for me either but it will for some. Nothing surer. I hope you’re right that he won’t start next season. 

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12 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

You might be right but I’m not so sure. I honestly think it could hang on how results go from here. I’m not talking about if we get promoted or not because we will go up. The feelings of the fans is hotly debated on here, some saying the anger is exaggerated on jkb and some saying the opposite but I believe the unrest is growing and is increasingly aimed at Ann. That must be the last thing she wants, firstly because nobody wants the heat on them for someone else’s results but more importantly because you can’t piss off your customers. You can’t run a business that way. 
 

Football is fickle. Regardless of what anyone says if we go out and beat Dunfermline 3-0 tomorrow the pressure is off and some people start to believe that everything could maybe be ok. Lose 1-0 and the pressure ramps up on the club. It is on a knife edge imo. 


Wants Hearts to get beat tomorrow type post, imo.

 

A familiar narrative that’s all too prevalent on here :sad:

 

Who needs Hibs whilst JKB and GinRummy are here :sad: :sad: :sad: 

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I’d take mcinnes but right now we need someone who will get 100% backing from supporters. Alex Neil would get that in my opinion. An ambitious one would be Chris Wilder.

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Can’t get excited by this rumour. 
 

Not happening anyhoo. 
 

Robbie will be here for next season unless any clubs outside of Scotland cone sniffing for him again. Which they won’t. 

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1 minute ago, Whatever said:


Wants Hearts to get beat tomorrow type post, imo.

 

A familiar narrative that’s all too prevalent on here :sad:

 

Who needs Hibs whilst JKB and GinRummy are here :sad: :sad: :sad: 

I’ve never wanted hearts to get beat. Good to get a non cartoon response from you and a 1:1 ratio on posting about hearts and posting about posters. 5/10 must troll harder. 

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57 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

I would take McInnes at Tynecastle in a heartbeat. 

 

On another note the latest Scarves Around The Funnel podcast is an excellent listen. 

 

Laurie and Mark Donaldson cover the Neilson situation well and the overall footballing structure at the club.

McInnes has a better track record than most in the Premiership,  ideally Alex Neil would be my choice.

Agree 100 percent about the podcast though.

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Lord Beni of Gorgie

Neilsons record against Mcinnes and how Mcinnes ended at Aberdeen all you need to know and substantially out of our pay scale. 

 

Mcinnes will quite possibly be the Scottish manager before long 

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You make decisions on who is the right person.

 

You need people with good judgement. I'm not sure who now would make this decision. Are Joe Savage and Andrew McKinlay involved? 

 

New people might have a different viewpoint. 

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5 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said:

Can’t get excited by this rumour. 
 

Not happening anyhoo. 
 

Robbie will be here for next season unless any clubs outside of Scotland cone sniffing for him again. Which they won’t. 

 

You would think so. 

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Auldbenches
40 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I'd rather stick with Neilson than bring in McInnes, and I'm not joking 

Neilson is just a younger McInnes with the time to adapt his approach.

Aren't the board listening to what tbe fans are tired off? 

Does this without trying to see who else is interested, and it's down to who works wel with budge rather than what the club needs.

We'll know if there are better options than McInnes once we see who else applies. 

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Why would anyone want Mcinnis anywhere near our club, we have watched poor unattractive  football for years, please no

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1 hour ago, Rick Sanchez said:

 

I'd be delighted as well.

 

You wouldn't see any players going about calling him Derek :laugh:

Genuine question. What should players call a manager?  Mr Neilson/Macinnes sounds like being at school.  'Gaffer'/'boss' in this day and age sounds pretty odd too.

 

Calling someone by their first name is the norm for me.

 

Mcinnes - wouldn't be gutted given his steady record but I'd rather stick with Robz

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12 minutes ago, XB52 said:

That's where I'm at. Alex Neil is my choice but don't ever want McIness

Correct and I think Neil's previous with Savage would swing this, Neil has a great record of bringing through real youngsters.

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1 minute ago, Whatever said:


:liesalarm:

Brilliant.  It’s like the in case of fire break glass box we are all familiar with but instead of fire they’ve said lies. Takes your witty banter to a whole new level. 

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1 hour ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Masochist, surely?  :huh: 

Right, that would explain why I always log in to the wrong porn sites. Thanks. I'll remember for future reference.

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28 minutes ago, EH11 2NL said:

What we're hearts up to during those years...

Can you not remember? Rangers weren’t there for three years. We were in admin then down below with Hibs. He had a few years to build up a squad and did it that well, as Levein did in first spell. Neilson did it too first time around. The football was awful though, as was Aberdeen’s these last few years. The Aberdeen fans en masse have wanted rid of him for years, boring long ball defensive football. Sound familiar?

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Hope not, apart from his style not being the most easy on the eye, his results in big games have been shockingly poor, 1 league cup in 8 years at the dons doesn't make for great reading, he did have them consistently in europa league qualifiers every season but the only reason he achieved lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes was because rangers, hibs and us and to a lesser extent dundee united were not in the league for several seasons , This would be an uninspiring appointment and would yet again split the support, we need someone who will unite the support imo.

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1 hour ago, Auldbenches said:

Is his record against the old firm not just as bad as levein's? 

He’s got a shocking record at Tynie as well so the ideal fit 

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Tom Hardy’s Dug

FFS.

 

Dont want that Hun anywhere near us

 

What a narrow minded typically Scottish football unambitious move that would be.

 

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