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frankblack
36 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

This is exactly what will happen.

Direct action of some description is the only thing that'll make any difference.

 

The clowncil shat themselves over trying to close roads at East Craigs when some lawyers for the residents stepped in.  The lawyer pointed out that they had not followed the correct procedures which required consultation.

 

I suspect similar will be needed here to make the clowncil budge from their high horse.

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Just seen the EEN headline

 

80% against the measures

Businesses against the measures

But wait for it "The quiet majority" favour the measures. WTF is there no end to their corruption.

 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Just seen the EEN headline

 

80% against the measures

Businesses against the measures

But wait for it "The quiet majority" favour the measures. WTF is there no end to their corruption.

 

 

The shite and lies these welts come out with just makes you want to batter fcuk out of them. It appears nothing short of a good beating will get through to them. Of course I am not actually advocating violence against them but it sure makes you feel like doing it. 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Just seen the EEN headline

 

80% against the measures

Businesses against the measures

But wait for it "The quiet majority" favour the measures. WTF is there no end to their corruption.

 

The next local elections will be a chance for to elect a Tory council. 

Whether they would get rid of them who knows. You would think they put that in their manifesto. 

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Far be from me to back the council, who constantly make a mess of this sort of thing.......but to me it reads like they've listened to residents of East Craigs?

 

Council Report

 

A second phase of community engagement on plans to introduce Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) in two areas of Edinburgh will begin on Friday (4 June).

Between 8 February and 5 March, we sought the views of residents in Corstorphine, Leith and East Craigs on their travel choices and use of their community spaces for movement and relaxation to help us develop proposals for each area in partnership with the local communities themselves. In total we received around 2200 responses across the three communities.

After the first phase of engagement, there was a clear appetite within Leith and Corstorphine to move forward with more detailed dialogue.

For East Craigs we’ll be bringing an additional report on plans for the area to the next Transport and Environment Committee in recognition of the majority of respondents reporting, during our initial engagement in February/March, that traffic levels were not significant on most residential streets. However, some residents did indicate that there are issues with high traffic volumes on selected streets. We’ll therefore propose to have further discussion on targeted traffic reduction with the East Craigs community at a later date, with a view to bringing proposals back to a future meeting of Transport and Environment Committee.

In Leith and Corstorphine we’re now looking for feedback on initial recommendations to create safer, more comfortable environments for walking, cycling and wheeling, as well as for spending time in local streets and outdoor spaces. These have been informed by the opinions and ideas shared during the first phase of engagement, as well as traffic data which indicates where there are issues around intrusive traffic.

As part of this second phase of engagement we will be holding co-design-type workshops with community representatives so that the design team can closely explore details in greater depth with the community.

Each of the schemes will be refined following the current period of engagement and brought back to Transport and Environment Committee. If approved, they would be then be introduced on a trial basis via an Experimental Traffic Regulation Order (ETRO) towards the end of 2021.

For Corstorphine, two options have been proposed to improve safety on the High Street, as well as various interventions elsewhere in the area to restrict through traffic, particularly around schools.

The Leith Connections project designs consist of two elements – a high-quality segregated cycle route between the Foot of the Walk and Ocean Terminal, which will be introduced on a permanent basis, and an experimental LTN in the area between Salamander Street, Commercial Street, North and Great Junction Street, Duke Street and the roads around Leith Links. The LTN designs include restrictions to through traffic and ‘parklets’ to encourage more people to walk, cycle and spend time.

Transport and Environment Convener Councillor Lesley Macinnes said:

Over the last year we’ve seen the impact that lower traffic volumes and space to walk and cycle can have on our environment. As we work to make a sustainable recovery from the pandemic, we’re looking at ways of working together with our communities on designs and proposals that would make neighbourhoods more liveable, easier to move around by active travel and welcoming to spend time in.

Thanks to thousands of comments on the initial engagement about our plans to introduce Low Traffic Neighbourhoods across the city, as well as traffic monitoring both before and after the pandemic to identify intrusive traffic hotspots, we’ve been able to develop a set of proposals for Leith and Corstorphine that really address the issues facing these neighbourhoods, helping to tackle barriers to walking, cycling and wheeling. As we now start the next phase of public engagement on these proposals we’ll be continuing to work closely with the communities in a co-design-style approach which involves residents in each key step of the projects’ development.

In East Craigs, there was a clear view that for most people there weren’t significant traffic problems on most residential streets, although some residents did report too much traffic on certain streets.

That’s why we’re currently putting the LTN plans on hold in East Craigs. We’d like to come back to discuss ideas on targeted traffic reduction with the community sometime in the future, but for now, we look forward to working with communities in Corstorphine and Leith to take forward designs there.

Transport and Environment Vice Convener Councillor Karen Doran said:

We’ve seen from examples around the world how Low Traffic Neighbourhoods can encourage community interaction and healthy, active travel, and we want to see this happen in Edinburgh.

Please let us know what you think of the initial plans for Leith and Corstorphine, so we can deliver schemes which work for as many people as possible.

Key findings from engagement with the public earlier this year include –

Corstorphine – almost 600 responses received

  • Walking was the largest travel mode used by respondents to the survey, with cycling higher than the national average at 9%.
  • Safety of streets for cycling and safety of streets for walking were the main factors that prevent respondents from making trips by foot or bike within the local area.
  • 51% of respondents think that traffic levels and speeds for children cycling or walking are unsafe or very unsafe.

Leith – over 800 responses received

  • 75% of survey respondents strongly support or support the aim for improving cycling conditions in Leith.
  • 80% of survey respondents strongly support or support the aim for improving walking conditions in Leith.
  • The most popular local destinations were Ocean Terminal, Leith Walk and Leith Links. Walking was used for the highest proportion of these journeys with between 44-65% of trips and cycling was used on 13-23% of trips.

East Craigs LTN – over 800 responses received

  • Speed and volume of traffic on Craigs Road was felt by some in the community to be too high and conditions could be improved for people walking and cycling, however there was also general feedback that most streets in the area were not felt by survey respondents to have high traffic volumes or speeds.
  • School drop off/pick up times were highlighted as a particular issue on some streets, resulting in higher volumes of traffic and parking.

Alongside this engagement feedback, project teams have collected and assessed traffic data from before and during COVID to help identify streets where intrusive traffic is a problem. This data has generally corresponded closely to the streets that residents have highlighted as having high traffic volumes and speeds.

Traffic operations plans have been developed to help people to plan journeys around their communities by different transport modes. Every residence will remain accessible by motor vehicle.

Engagement on the Leith and Corstorphine proposals will run from Friday (4 June) until 4 July, during which time respondents can view and comment on designs. We’ll also be consulting with key stakeholders including community councils, ward councillors, emergency services and mobility and access groups.

The ETRO process for introducing changes, if approved, includes further public consultation on the traffic regulation changes, with the results to be reported back to Transport and Environment Committee in autumn, when a decision would be made about whether to implement the LTNs on a trial basis (for up to 18 months). ETROs allow us to trial measures, in collaboration with the community and stakeholders, to evaluate their impacts and benefits prior to permanent implementation. During the trial we will be monitoring the impacts of the changes and asking for public feedback.

Measures along the future cycle route from Leith Walk to Ocean Terminal, which will change traffic movement in the area, are proposed to be implemented at the same time as the trial LTN. These relate to a permanent route design and have already been through public engagement.

You'll be able to find out more and share your views on Leith and Corstorphine proposals from Friday.

Published: June 2nd 2021

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New cycle lane installed at Canonmills up to Rodney Street wtf down to single lane traffic, backing up onto Brandon St and Inverleith Row what a fecking cock up fair enough from Rodney St up to Broughton St wider road but this 100 yard bit is causing mayhem. Council are really creating a shambles of a city for driving that's obviously their aim no cars on the roads.

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1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

New cycle lane installed at Canonmills up to Rodney Street wtf down to single lane traffic, backing up onto Brandon St and Inverleith Row what a fecking cock up fair enough from Rodney St up to Broughton St wider road but this 100 yard bit is causing mayhem. Council are really creating a shambles of a city for driving that's obviously their aim no cars on the roads.

Also the stupidity of this council is that it affects buses which they encourage people to use instead of cars.

Muppets.

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On 18/05/2021 at 16:09, Lord BJ said:


This is an a issue that occurs in, pretty much, all public authorities. It’s one of the reasons we waste so much tax payers money. They don’t consider if somethings a investment, they just spend money like a drunk sailor to ensure they don’t ‘loose’ money in future for not spending all their budget. The truth is they are not spending their limited funds with a purpose they are spending because that’s how much they have to spend. 
 

One of the major failings of public authority is the culture that is created. 

Spot on. That type of mentality absolutely drives me nuts. Instead of punishing departments for spending less than their allocated budget one year (and subsequently reducing their budget accordingly for the next year) the senior management should congratulate them on a job well done and leave them with the larger amount again for the following year. 

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Walking along St Johns road this morning, the ones at the foot of clermiston hill ,

why are they even there, the pavement is wide enough for folk passing each other.

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4 hours ago, hmfcbilly said:

Spot on. That type of mentality absolutely drives me nuts. Instead of punishing departments for spending less than their allocated budget one year (and subsequently reducing their budget accordingly for the next year) the senior management should congratulate them on a job well done and leave them with the larger amount again for the following year. 

 

I used to work for the NHS and it was exactly the same, every March I seen deals done for laptops/desktop computers and furniture, easiest way to spend a lot of money quickly and all on consignment so you don't even need to worry about taking delivery before year end, you could just have it delivered when you needed it at some point in the future

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23 hours ago, pablo said:

Far be from me to back the council, who constantly make a mess of this sort of thing.......but to me it reads like they've listened to residents of East Craigs?

 

Council Report

 

A second phase of community engagement on plans to introduce Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) in two areas of Edinburgh will begin on Friday (4 June).

Between 8 February and 5 March, we sought the views of residents in Corstorphine, Leith and East Craigs on their travel choices and use of their community spaces for movement and relaxation to help us develop proposals for each area in partnership with the local communities themselves. In total we received around 2200 responses across the three communities.

After the first phase of engagement, there was a clear appetite within Leith and Corstorphine to move forward with more detailed dialogue.

For East Craigs we’ll be bringing an additional report on plans for the area to the next Transport and Environment Committee in recognition of the majority of respondents reporting, during our initial engagement in February/March, that traffic levels were not significant on most residential streets. However, some residents did indicate that there are issues with high traffic volumes on selected streets. We’ll therefore propose to have further discussion on targeted traffic reduction with the East Craigs community at a later date, with a view to bringing proposals back to a future meeting of Transport and Environment Committee.

In Leith and Corstorphine we’re now looking for feedback on initial recommendations to create safer, more comfortable environments for walking, cycling and wheeling, as well as for spending time in local streets and outdoor spaces. These have been informed by the opinions and ideas shared during the first phase of engagement, as well as traffic data which indicates where there are issues around intrusive traffic.

As part of this second phase of engagement we will be holding co-design-type workshops with community representatives so that the design team can closely explore details in greater depth with the community.

Each of the schemes will be refined following the current period of engagement and brought back to Transport and Environment Committee. If approved, they would be then be introduced on a trial basis via an Experimental Traffic Regulation Order (ETRO) towards the end of 2021.

For Corstorphine, two options have been proposed to improve safety on the High Street, as well as various interventions elsewhere in the area to restrict through traffic, particularly around schools.

The Leith Connections project designs consist of two elements – a high-quality segregated cycle route between the Foot of the Walk and Ocean Terminal, which will be introduced on a permanent basis, and an experimental LTN in the area between Salamander Street, Commercial Street, North and Great Junction Street, Duke Street and the roads around Leith Links. The LTN designs include restrictions to through traffic and ‘parklets’ to encourage more people to walk, cycle and spend time.

Transport and Environment Convener Councillor Lesley Macinnes said:

Over the last year we’ve seen the impact that lower traffic volumes and space to walk and cycle can have on our environment. As we work to make a sustainable recovery from the pandemic, we’re looking at ways of working together with our communities on designs and proposals that would make neighbourhoods more liveable, easier to move around by active travel and welcoming to spend time in.

Thanks to thousands of comments on the initial engagement about our plans to introduce Low Traffic Neighbourhoods across the city, as well as traffic monitoring both before and after the pandemic to identify intrusive traffic hotspots, we’ve been able to develop a set of proposals for Leith and Corstorphine that really address the issues facing these neighbourhoods, helping to tackle barriers to walking, cycling and wheeling. As we now start the next phase of public engagement on these proposals we’ll be continuing to work closely with the communities in a co-design-style approach which involves residents in each key step of the projects’ development.

In East Craigs, there was a clear view that for most people there weren’t significant traffic problems on most residential streets, although some residents did report too much traffic on certain streets.

That’s why we’re currently putting the LTN plans on hold in East Craigs. We’d like to come back to discuss ideas on targeted traffic reduction with the community sometime in the future, but for now, we look forward to working with communities in Corstorphine and Leith to take forward designs there.

Transport and Environment Vice Convener Councillor Karen Doran said:

We’ve seen from examples around the world how Low Traffic Neighbourhoods can encourage community interaction and healthy, active travel, and we want to see this happen in Edinburgh.

Please let us know what you think of the initial plans for Leith and Corstorphine, so we can deliver schemes which work for as many people as possible.

Key findings from engagement with the public earlier this year include –

Corstorphine – almost 600 responses received

  • Walking was the largest travel mode used by respondents to the survey, with cycling higher than the national average at 9%.
  • Safety of streets for cycling and safety of streets for walking were the main factors that prevent respondents from making trips by foot or bike within the local area.
  • 51% of respondents think that traffic levels and speeds for children cycling or walking are unsafe or very unsafe.

Leith – over 800 responses received

  • 75% of survey respondents strongly support or support the aim for improving cycling conditions in Leith.
  • 80% of survey respondents strongly support or support the aim for improving walking conditions in Leith.
  • The most popular local destinations were Ocean Terminal, Leith Walk and Leith Links. Walking was used for the highest proportion of these journeys with between 44-65% of trips and cycling was used on 13-23% of trips.

East Craigs LTN – over 800 responses received

  • Speed and volume of traffic on Craigs Road was felt by some in the community to be too high and conditions could be improved for people walking and cycling, however there was also general feedback that most streets in the area were not felt by survey respondents to have high traffic volumes or speeds.
  • School drop off/pick up times were highlighted as a particular issue on some streets, resulting in higher volumes of traffic and parking.

Alongside this engagement feedback, project teams have collected and assessed traffic data from before and during COVID to help identify streets where intrusive traffic is a problem. This data has generally corresponded closely to the streets that residents have highlighted as having high traffic volumes and speeds.

Traffic operations plans have been developed to help people to plan journeys around their communities by different transport modes. Every residence will remain accessible by motor vehicle.

Engagement on the Leith and Corstorphine proposals will run from Friday (4 June) until 4 July, during which time respondents can view and comment on designs. We’ll also be consulting with key stakeholders including community councils, ward councillors, emergency services and mobility and access groups.

The ETRO process for introducing changes, if approved, includes further public consultation on the traffic regulation changes, with the results to be reported back to Transport and Environment Committee in autumn, when a decision would be made about whether to implement the LTNs on a trial basis (for up to 18 months). ETROs allow us to trial measures, in collaboration with the community and stakeholders, to evaluate their impacts and benefits prior to permanent implementation. During the trial we will be monitoring the impacts of the changes and asking for public feedback.

Measures along the future cycle route from Leith Walk to Ocean Terminal, which will change traffic movement in the area, are proposed to be implemented at the same time as the trial LTN. These relate to a permanent route design and have already been through public engagement.

You'll be able to find out more and share your views on Leith and Corstorphine proposals from Friday.

Published: June 2nd 2021

 

:orly?:  :insufferable:

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Fxxx the SPFL
9 minutes ago, jonesy said:

All designed to frustrate and wear folk down rather than provide a meaningful, integrated strategy. I see more maturity from my two sons arguing about their Pokemon cards.

 

Roads blocked to create traffic jams

Roads narrowed to create traffic jams

Roads unrepaired to increase damage to cars

Cycle lanes installed with nobody using them

Buses run 90% empty outside peak hours

 

Childish and dangerous.

totally agree.

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Governor Tarkin
22 minutes ago, jonesy said:

All designed to frustrate and wear folk down rather than provide a meaningful, integrated strategy. I see more maturity from my two sons arguing about their Pokemon cards.

 

Roads blocked to create traffic jams

Roads narrowed to create traffic jams

Roads unrepaired to increase damage to cars

Cycle lanes installed with nobody using them

Buses run 90% empty outside peak hours

 

Childish and dangerous.

 

This.

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Seymour M Hersh
1 hour ago, jonesy said:

All designed to frustrate and wear folk down rather than provide a meaningful, integrated strategy. I see more maturity from my two sons arguing about their Pokemon cards.

 

Roads blocked to create traffic jams

Roads narrowed to create traffic jams

Roads unrepaired to increase damage to cars

Cycle lanes installed with nobody using them

Buses run 90% empty outside peak hours

 

Childish and dangerous.

 

Totally agree although I'd continually use the word congestion as opposed to traffic jams. Congestion is the word they love to throw around as a reason for all their idiocy so fire it straight back at them. 

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Governor Tarkin
11 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

 

The thing is, everyone wants a nice, clean, unpolluted city. The Council's actions do nothing to garner support for measures to create such conditions, and end up polarising folk between the Extinction Rebellion Lycra Warriors and the Diesel-pumping Cloggers. Painting silly wee lines all over broken bit of tarmac and planting flowers at junctions isn't a solution, it's a problem in and of itself.

 

The two aren't mutually exclusive. :(

 

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Seymour M Hersh
2 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

The two aren't mutually exclusive. :(

 

 

Deportation offence? :lol:

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Stuart Lyon

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/must-read/edinburgh-transport-chief-there-is-no-war-on-motorists-3269086

 

So the Spaces for People vanity project is designed to help those in Edinburgh who don't have a car (45%) get about more easily. No doubt some of the 45% will never own a car but likewise they may never own a bike or other "wheels"!

I suspect that there are more people disadvantaged by not having affordable housing and may be living in poor and expensive rented accommodation. I think the CeC charlatans should be focusing on that rather than its war on vehicles.

 

Remember this is the Council that helps residents park near home by introducing/extending controlled parking zones and then charges the self same residents for a parking permit! 

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19 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/must-read/edinburgh-transport-chief-there-is-no-war-on-motorists-3269086

 

So the Spaces for People vanity project is designed to help those in Edinburgh who don't have a car (45%) get about more easily. No doubt some of the 45% will never own a car but likewise they may never own a bike or other "wheels"!

I suspect that there are more people disadvantaged by not having affordable housing and may be living in poor and expensive rented accommodation. I think the CeC charlatans should be focusing on that rather than its war on vehicles.

 

Remember this is the Council that helps residents park near home by introducing/extending controlled parking zones and then charges the self same residents for a parking permit! 

Stuart I won’t bother clicking the link as it’ll be the usual BS.

Your summary will suffice.

 

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15 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Stuart I won’t bother clicking the link as it’ll be the usual BS.

Your summary will suffice.

 

 

Remember the whole thing was brought in for Covid and now it apparently isn't.

 

The people of Edinburgh need to wake up and vote out this council based on local issues not national politics.

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Governor Tarkin
6 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

The people of Edinburgh need to wake up and vote out this council based on local issues not national politics.

 

:spoton:

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Jeffros Furios
17 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Remember the whole thing was brought in for Covid and now it apparently isn't.

 

The people of Edinburgh need to wake up and vote out this council based on local issues not national politics.

Thats why I will vote Tory as all the other parties agree with the madness and the clowns running the city .

Can't ever see me voting in national elections as they're all wankers 

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Spaces for people will be punted following a report that is going to be released on the 17th of June. Millions wasted on a ridiculous project that was not wanted / never going to work in Edinburgh. 
 

Apparently the amount of negative feedback following numerous accidents has been incredible. 

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The Real Maroonblood
3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

Remember the whole thing was brought in for Covid and now it apparently isn't.

 

The people of Edinburgh need to wake up and vote out this council based on local issues not national politics.

Exactly. 

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Stuart Lyon
23 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Ha! That's both my cars banned from the city. The irony, of course, is that in order to get to the other side of the city I'll be forced to drive further, thus polluting more. Perhaps if the council stopped trying to create congestion by reducing the number of lanes and lengthening the time of traffic signals staying on red, cars would be sat idling for shorter times.

Exactly! Longer journeys by the cars they say are the most polluting is just going to add to the problem but that suits them because they then extend the LEZ and identify newer cars as targets. A vicious circle.

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Just now, Stuart Lyon said:

Exactly! Longer journeys by the cars they say are the most polluting is just going to add to the problem but that suits them because they then extend the LEZ and identify newer cars as targets. A vicious circle.

Maybe its time vehicle drivers did a version of Pedal on Parliament!

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Seymour M Hersh
44 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

 

They are that thick and fanatical they still don't realise that the very anti-car measures they impose from 20mph limits to the narrowing of roads with their cycle lanes and space for people shit only mange to increase the pollution as traffic is slowed to a crawl all over town. 

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Seymour M Hersh
12 minutes ago, jonesy said:

They're not thick. They're devious *******s with a long term plan.

 

They are indeed devious Jones I totally agree but they're also thick as mince. 

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I have no idea as to how much has been spent on the new cycle lanes, the signage , the wooden flower boxes and anything else that’s been spent on it , but I’d rather it had gone towards keeping these places open .
 

Priorities all wrong 😡😡😡

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1 hour ago, Famous 1874 said:

Spaces for people will be punted following a report that is going to be released on the 17th of June. Millions wasted on a ridiculous project that was not wanted / never going to work in Edinburgh. 
 

Apparently the amount of negative feedback following numerous accidents has been incredible. 

So long as they put it all back to how it was ... and who pays for that !

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Kennedy Bakircioglu
1 hour ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Maybe its time vehicle drivers did a version of Pedal on Parliament!

I don't get your hatred towards the scheme. Why do you need to drive everywhere and anywhere in Edinburgh? 

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1 hour ago, jonesy said:

Ha! That's both my cars banned from the city. The irony, of course, is that in order to get to the other side of the city I'll be forced to drive further, thus polluting more. Perhaps if the council stopped trying to create congestion by reducing the number of lanes and lengthening the time of traffic signals staying on red, cars would be sat idling for shorter times.


My car would be too, yet cars a year newer with higher emissions will be allowed to travel freely across the city!?
 

I’d actually accept plans for a LEZ if it was purely emissions based, my car is a 2014 diesel yet I only pay £30 a year VED due to the relatively low emissions.

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4 minutes ago, Kennedy Bakircioglu said:

I don't get your hatred towards the scheme. Why do you need to drive everywhere and anywhere in Edinburgh? 


The hatred isn’t about needing to drive everywhere, it’s about the piss poor implementation meaning that when you need to drive anywhere in the city the journey is much longer than it needs to be and in turn creates more pollution!
 

That’s before mentioning the parts that are plain and simply dangerous!

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3 minutes ago, Ribble said:


The hatred isn’t about needing to drive everywhere, it’s about the piss poor implementation meaning that when you need to drive anywhere in the city the journey is much longer than it needs to be and in turn creates more pollution!
 

That’s before mentioning the parts that are plain and simply dangerous!

That and the (dons cycling helmet) ****ing useless cycle lanes with bigger craters in them than you find on the moon and a necessity to weave in and out of car and pedestrian areas that is much worse than before. 

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35 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Ditto.

 

One assumes the anti-car brigade refuse to accept deliveries from companies that use diesel vans, yeah?

 

Traffic in Edinburgh actually works, for the most part, surprisingly okay. They just need to stop pissing about with it.


Yup, looking at the rules it means I could drive a 2004 Mercedes ML370 with a 3.7 litre petrol engine that spews out 338g/km but not my 2014 bmw 316d that has emissions of 118g/km! 

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Stuart Lyon

Haven't listened to it yet but Which magazine have a podcast which challenges the green credentials of electric vehicles; should be interesting.

 

Driving up Hanover St this am I see that one of the restaurants on the east side just short of the junction with George St has been allowed to build a deck on the inside lane! This clamour to provide continental dining al fresco is getting out of hand considering Edinburgh's climate.

 

Oh and the Charlatans at the CeC using Emergency traffic powers to extend Spaces for people! Their chicanery knows no end!

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Seymour M Hersh
6 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Haven't listened to it yet but Which magazine have a podcast which challenges the green credentials of electric vehicles; should be interesting.

 

Driving up Hanover St this am I see that one of the restaurants on the east side just short of the junction with George St has been allowed to build a deck on the inside lane! This clamour to provide continental dining al fresco is getting out of hand considering Edinburgh's climate.

 

Oh and the Charlatans at the CeC using Emergency traffic powers to extend Spaces for people! Their chicanery knows no end!

 

What's in the batteries should be a starting point. All the rare metals needed to be mined just for the self righteous to virtue signal. 

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https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-council-votes-keep-controversial-20895397

 

The clowncil have decided to vote to keep the Spaces for People in place and deferred a decision to scrap the Lanark Road shambles after a handful of cyclists who never use the route did a protest for the media.

 

Whatever happend to the consultation over the Spaces for People?  Did they publish the results or bury them because they didn't fit their agenda?  I never received any email telling me what the results were.

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Stuart Lyon

For Spaces for People read Spaces for Cyclists! The provision for cyclists is way out of proportion to their numbers while pedestrians are largely ignored.

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Jeffros Furios
21 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

For Spaces for People read Spaces for Cyclists! The provision for cyclists is way out of proportion to their numbers while pedestrians are largely ignored.

I've yet to see a cyclist at Longstone or Lanark Road .

There's the odd weirdo every couple of days on Pentland Terrace . The good people of Oxgangs Road are ignoring the cycling lane and parking outside thier homes .

The Edinburgh Cyclist fud will no doubt have a hissy fit about it and post his anger on YouTube. 

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26 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

For Spaces for People read Spaces for Cyclists! The provision for cyclists is way out of proportion to their numbers while pedestrians are largely ignored.

 

Not to mention disabled and people with mobility issues being penalised by this vindictive council.

 

As much as some won't like it, only voting Tory will get this SNP/Labour cabal out and end the car-hating policies.  The Tories had the largest share of the vote last time so the two minority parties decided to shack up and go against the will of the people and have done so throughout this term.

 

Remember - vote on local issues at Local Elections and leave the Holyrood/Westminster stuff out of it.

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Kennedy Bakircioglu
On 25/06/2021 at 13:13, Jeffros Furios said:

I've yet to see a cyclist at Longstone or Lanark Road .

There's the odd weirdo every couple of days on Pentland Terrace . The good people of Oxgangs Road are ignoring the cycling lane and parking outside thier homes .

The Edinburgh Cyclist fud will no doubt have a hissy fit about it and post his anger on YouTube. 

I cycle along Lanark Road twice a week. It's glorious, much safer as I'm going slowly up the hill and so therefore not obstructing any cars. Some of the people on this thread should invest in a bike, they could do with a few endorphins from the exercise. 

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The Lanark road is the worst implementation in Edinburgh. The vote suggested to scrap it, yet they are keeping it. **** all democracy there. Cars basically parked in the middle of the ****ing road. Get these incompetent ***** out of power.

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2 hours ago, Kennedy Bakircioglu said:

I cycle along Lanark Road twice a week. It's glorious, much safer as I'm going slowly up the hill and so therefore not obstructing any cars. Some of the people on this thread should invest in a bike, they could do with a few endorphins from the exercise. 

See  above post

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