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1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Not born to a Scottish mother, however the Queen's mother was a blood ancestor of Robert Bruce and the Queen on her father's side is a blood ancestor of Mary Queen of Scots, so the Queen on both her Father & Mother's side is from two of the most important Scottish House's.

 

I always find it funny when people concentrate on her House of Hanover roots but conveniently ignore that the Queen also has roots from the House of Bruce & the House of Stuart.

 

That's like saying I'm Irish because I have Moran ancestry, whilst ignoring my Scottish McDonald & Malcolm ancestry.

 

 

 

 

I knew these human/lizard hybrids were long lived, but didn't realise it was that long.

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9 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

I knew these human/lizard hybrids were long lived, but didn't realise it was that long.

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Oh, they do need to recharge from time to time, it's something to do with our atmosphere, it drains them, seemingly.

 

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2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Oh, they do need to recharge from time to time, it's something to do with our atmosphere, it drains them, seemingly.

 

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On 20/02/2021 at 14:37, Weakened Offender said:

The Duke of Edinburgh has always split opinion. Some look upon him as a toxic, racist, misogynistic brute of a man with a very dodgy history around the time of WW2 and some see him differently. 

 

I spent a pleasant evening in a pub in Barbados in 1988, which was jam-packed with Royal Marines from the Royal Yacht Britannia.  I was welcomed among them, partially because I was an ex-seviceman but mainly because I was accompanied by a very attractive wife. 

 

As the beer flowed, so did the stories of life aboard the Royal Yacht.  In a nutshell, the Queen was well liked as was Princess Diana.  Unanimously despised were Margaret and Philip.  He was described as an over-privileged, jumped-up arsehole, and some of the stories they told about him were incredible. 

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I saw a headline saying, "Prince Philip to spend fifth night in hospital after visit from Prince Charles." 

 

Which just goes to show: you £u(k with Prince Charles at your peril. 

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34 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I spent a pleasant evening in a pub in Barbados in 1988, which was jam-packed with Royal Marines from the Royal Yacht Britannia.  I was welcomed among them, partially because I was an ex-seviceman but mainly because I was accompanied by a very attractive wife. 

 

As the beer flowed, so did the stories of life aboard the Royal Yacht.  In a nutshell, the Queen was well liked as was Princess Diana.  Unanimously despised were Margaret and Philip.  He was described as an over-privileged, jumped-up arsehole, and some of the stories they told about him were incredible. 

 

I used to know a guardsman who said Charles was a rambling drunken idiot who'd drag his security folk outside at all hours so he could chat to the guards on duty. They'd stand behind him and just shrug their shoulders at the guards. 

 

The Queen was very respected. Fergie was a real favourite as she was quite open and chatty. I don't recall him mentioning Philip. 

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4 hours ago, Robbofan99 said:

Not the slightest interest in him . He’s had a life of privilege which  we can only dream of. 

 

Never had anything directly to do with them, but did guards at Buckingham Palace and though the place is luxurious with the acres of gardens etc the ability to go anywhere unescorted, and the restrictions do not make it a life I personally would want. Dealt with them at Holyrood also to some extent, strictly from the outside looking in.  To me his life was like being married to your boss and having to live with them. Having to walk a certain distance behind your wife makes it all very feudal. He has carried out his duties well, but unlike myself who carried out the duties I was paid to do, who went home to a loving wife, who was sometimes my boss, sometimes my subordinate, but always my friend ,ally and equal, the fact is if he and I were forced to change lives, he would be the one getting the best of the deal.  He is an old man obviously in not the best health, when he goes he will just be like all of us when we go, deid. So any philosophical differences I may have had with him will be gone, and I will say enjoy the rest, you earned it.

 

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49 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

 

Never had anything directly to do with them, but did guards at Buckingham Palace and though the place is luxurious with the acres of gardens etc the ability to go anywhere unescorted, and the restrictions do not make it a life I personally would want. Dealt with them at Holyrood also to some extent, strictly from the outside looking in.  To me his life was like being married to your boss and having to live with them. Having to walk a certain distance behind your wife makes it all very feudal. He has carried out his duties well, but unlike myself who carried out the duties I was paid to do, who went home to a loving wife, who was sometimes my boss, sometimes my subordinate, but always my friend ,ally and equal, the fact is if he and I were forced to change lives, he would be the one getting the best of the deal.  He is an old man obviously in not the best health, when he goes he will just be like all of us when we go, deid. So any philosophical differences I may have had with him will be gone, and I will say enjoy the rest, you earned it.

 


Nice sentiments Sharpie. Another man’s shoes and all that. Respect

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2 hours ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

I used to know a guardsman who said Charles was a rambling drunken idiot who'd drag his security folk outside at all hours so he could chat to the guards on duty. They'd stand behind him and just shrug their shoulders at the guards. 

 

The Queen was very respected. Fergie was a real favourite as she was quite open and chatty. I don't recall him mentioning Philip. 

 

Quite a change from when I done guards at the Palace. Of course in those days the guardsmen on sentry were outside the gates on the public area.  The guardroom was at the left end of the building as you would look at the Palace, never had a visit from any family member. Again in those days there was one night guard right in the Palace grounds, it was close to the steps you often see if the Queen is being interviewed or taped there. The sentries on that post were warned to be real careful as there were police security personnel posted in the heavily treed areas. That is one of the things I was referring to on another post, there is no privacy for them anywhere they are being watched openly and covertly everywhere. Charles was just a kid when I was at Buck, and Philip would not talk to a Guardsman, I doubt he even was aware that a Guardsman could put two word together. The stories about Guardsmen and the Royals are multitude but are exactly that stories. I done guards at the Palace as a Corporal and a Sergeant, never as a guardsman, and believe me if I had heard any of these tales with my detail the brown stuff would have been flying as would the guardsman on his way to the guardroom. The major stories of the day were mostly involving Princess Margaret and her importuning Guardsmen at St James Palace, but again like all these stories it was never a soldier from your own Battalion that you could ask, always from some other Regiment.

 I recently commented about Philip during  the centenary services for the General Assembly. The powers that be decided that a group of us would be a flying squad to be at various locations for arrival and departure of the Royals. I was delegated Prince Philips car and was instructed on how to open the door for him, obviously I was not seen as on of the cerebreal members. (Proven by not knowing how to spell cr...) At one point after a couple of door openings and Philip made a comment about seeing me again, we actually shared a wee knowing smile.

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7 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Course he has lived to 99 like the other Bunch of previous scroungers they spawn from . No worries about money , work , housing , best of health and food . What a life but sadly for them they are not immortal . No one is . 

 

I had a great granny, my mothers granny, who lived to 103. My mother is 87.

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5 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 

Quite a change from when I done guards at the Palace. Of course in those days the guardsmen on sentry were outside the gates on the public area.  The guardroom was at the left end of the building as you would look at the Palace, never had a visit from any family member. Again in those days there was one night guard right in the Palace grounds, it was close to the steps you often see if the Queen is being interviewed or taped there. The sentries on that post were warned to be real careful as there were police security personnel posted in the heavily treed areas. That is one of the things I was referring to on another post, there is no privacy for them anywhere they are being watched openly and covertly everywhere. Charles was just a kid when I was at Buck, and Philip would not talk to a Guardsman, I doubt he even was aware that a Guardsman could put two word together. The stories about Guardsmen and the Royals are multitude but are exactly that stories. I done guards at the Palace as a Corporal and a Sergeant, never as a guardsman, and believe me if I had heard any of these tales with my detail the brown stuff would have been flying as would the guardsman on his way to the guardroom. The major stories of the day were mostly involving Princess Margaret and her importuning Guardsmen at St James Palace, but again like all these stories it was never a soldier from your own Battalion that you could ask, always from some other Regiment.

 I recently commented about Philip during  the centenary services for the General Assembly. The powers that be decided that a group of us would be a flying squad to be at various locations for arrival and departure of the Royals. I was delegated Prince Philips car and was instructed on how to open the door for him, obviously I was not seen as on of the cerebreal members. (Proven by not knowing how to spell cr...) At one point after a couple of door openings and Philip made a comment about seeing me again, we actually shared a wee knowing smile.

 

The guardsman don't just guard the Palace though right? They guard other residences? I definitely don't think this boy was talking about Buck Palace with regard to seeing Fergie regularly. 

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6 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I had a great granny, my mothers granny, who lived to 103. My mother is 87.

Yes it can be generic , I would assume your mother’s granny didn’t really touch the liquor and led a healthy lifestyle ? 

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6 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 

Quite a change from when I done guards at the Palace. Of course in those days the guardsmen on sentry were outside the gates on the public area.  The guardroom was at the left end of the building as you would look at the Palace, never had a visit from any family member. Again in those days there was one night guard right in the Palace grounds, it was close to the steps you often see if the Queen is being interviewed or taped there. The sentries on that post were warned to be real careful as there were police security personnel posted in the heavily treed areas. That is one of the things I was referring to on another post, there is no privacy for them anywhere they are being watched openly and covertly everywhere. Charles was just a kid when I was at Buck, and Philip would not talk to a Guardsman, I doubt he even was aware that a Guardsman could put two word together. The stories about Guardsmen and the Royals are multitude but are exactly that stories. I done guards at the Palace as a Corporal and a Sergeant, never as a guardsman, and believe me if I had heard any of these tales with my detail the brown stuff would have been flying as would the guardsman on his way to the guardroom. The major stories of the day were mostly involving Princess Margaret and her importuning Guardsmen at St James Palace, but again like all these stories it was never a soldier from your own Battalion that you could ask, always from some other Regiment.

 I recently commented about Philip during  the centenary services for the General Assembly. The powers that be decided that a group of us would be a flying squad to be at various locations for arrival and departure of the Royals. I was delegated Prince Philips car and was instructed on how to open the door for him, obviously I was not seen as on of the cerebreal members. (Proven by not knowing how to spell cr...) At one point after a couple of door openings and Philip made a comment about seeing me again, we actually shared a wee knowing smile.

Great story 👍

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13 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes it can be generic , I would assume your mother’s granny didn’t really touch the liquor and led a healthy lifestyle ? 

 

Couldn't really say. She was born in the early 1870's which was hardly a time to be living healthily. When she got her first telegram from the Queen on her 100th birthday the local paper asked for her secret and she said she had a hot toddy before bed every night.

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28 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Couldn't really say. She was born in the early 1870's which was hardly a time to be living healthily. When she got her first telegram from the Queen on her 100th birthday the local paper asked for her secret and she said she had a hot toddy before bed every night.

 

My great uncle died last week a few days short of his 102nd birthday, liked a nighttime whisky too 👍

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I still like the story of the military guy being pulled from the line of a meet and greet with Philip. 

 

Philip commented on his fine array of medals to which he replied  "Yes and I didnt get any from marrying my wife"

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39 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Couldn't really say. She was born in the early 1870's which was hardly a time to be living healthily. When she got her first telegram from the Queen on her 100th birthday the local paper asked for her secret and she said she had a hot toddy before bed every night.

Terrific 

6 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

I still like the story of the military guy being pulled from the line of a meet and greet with Philip. 

 

Philip commented on his fine array of medals to which he replied  "Yes and I didnt get any from marrying my wife"

Good on him 👍

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56 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Couldn't really say. She was born in the early 1870's which was hardly a time to be living healthily. When she got her first telegram from the Queen on her 100th birthday the local paper asked for her secret and she said she had a hot toddy before bed every night.

My great gran swore by that and she passed in her mid 90s....

 

Off to the supermarket I go (essential trip to get some whiskey)

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28 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

My great uncle died last week a few days short of his 102nd birthday, liked a nighttime whisky too 👍

Ok there is def something in it thats three peoples

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13 minutes ago, sadj said:

My great gran swore by that and she passed in her mid 90s....

 

Off to the supermarket I go (essential trip to get some whiskey)

you better be getting whisky and not whiskey

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5 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

you better be getting whisky and not whiskey

 

2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

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🤣 Ffs , Didn’t even notice that , not sure I can even claim it was autocorrect 🤷🏻‍♂️. Ill hand my Scottish pin in at the door on the way out.

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7 minutes ago, sadj said:

 

🤣 Ffs , Didn’t even notice that , not sure I can even claim it was autocorrect 🤷🏻‍♂️. Ill hand my Scottish pin in at the door on the way out.

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I worked for S&N at head office in the late 80's. Now the site of the parliament. When in Holyrood house, they used to park their horse boxes in the courtyard. They used to ride around Holyrood park. A colleague of mine who lived over at the meadowbank gate, used to walk through the park to work. She was a fervent republican, but became disgusted with herself one morning when a rider passed her and the figure greeted her with a "good morning young lady". She looked up and responded "Oh, good morning SIR!". It was Phil. Anne was also a frequent rider around the park and was quite chatty. Queenie never seen. I have no time for the institution, and used to despise Phil based on his public image. However, having learned a bit about his history, he seems very much to have been an (albeit privileged) alpha male who, because of his wife's uncle's abdication and his father in law's early death, has the life he had worked for and planned, ripped away from him. Seems to have replaced this by drinking, shagging and aristocratic sporting pursuits. But also gives the air that he would give all that back f he could have his "old" life back.

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3 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes it can be generic , I would assume your mother’s granny didn’t really touch the liquor and led a healthy lifestyle ? 

that's a real worry auld man dropped dead with a heart attack aged 68 i'm coming up 64 might only have fours years. luckily i have been on statins since he died my youngest brother who is 54 absolutely freaked out and got put on statins soon after hopefully that will help us. I try and avoid junk food but my only exercise is walking at least an hour a day. 

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4 hours ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

The guardsman don't just guard the Palace though right? They guard other residences? I definitely don't think this boy was talking about Buck Palace with regard to seeing Fergie regularly. 

We only done Buck, St James The Tower, and a night Picquet, I believe some of the Royals live in other residences, and of course in my dotterage I am referring to 1955. 

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4 hours ago, Greenbank2 said:

I worked for S&N at head office in the late 80's. Now the site of the parliament. When in Holyrood house, they used to park their horse boxes in the courtyard. They used to ride around Holyrood park. A colleague of mine who lived over at the meadowbank gate, used to walk through the park to work. She was a fervent republican, but became disgusted with herself one morning when a rider passed her and the figure greeted her with a "good morning young lady". She looked up and responded "Oh, good morning SIR!". It was Phil. Anne was also a frequent rider around the park and was quite chatty. Queenie never seen. I have no time for the institution, and used to despise Phil based on his public image. However, having learned a bit about his history, he seems very much to have been an (albeit privileged) alpha male who, because of his wife's uncle's abdication and his father in law's early death, has the life he had worked for and planned, ripped away from him. Seems to have replaced this by drinking, shagging and aristocratic sporting pursuits. But also gives the air that he would give all that back f he could have his "old" life back.

Best thing I heard about him was at one of his wife's garden parties.   

He went up to a couple and asked them what brought them here.

They said that they had been invited. 

He said you 'didn't have to come' and walked away. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Best thing I heard about him was at one of his wife's garden parties.   

He went up to a couple and asked them what brought them here.

They said that they had been invited. 

He said you 'didn't have to come' and walked away. 

 

They must have been Japanese.

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Just now, Auldbenches said:

You're not exactly Stephen 'Deep' Fry...

:lol:

My wife says I moan all the time so it maybe fitting sometimes when I post.

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1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

:lol:

My wife says I moan all the time so it maybe fitting sometimes when I post.

Please don't say you weren't referring to that.  I can't see anything else.  Sake! 

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3 hours ago, **** the SPFL said:

that's a real worry auld man dropped dead with a heart attack aged 68 i'm coming up 64 might only have fours years. luckily i have been on statins since he died my youngest brother who is 54 absolutely freaked out and got put on statins soon after hopefully that will help us. I try and avoid junk food but my only exercise is walking at least an hour a day. 

 

All you can do is the best you can.  The biggest factor in longevity is your genes, and there's not much you can do about that.

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3 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Please don't say you weren't referring to that.  I can't see anything else.  Sake! 

Maybe it wasn’t apt.

Anyway I hope he recovers.

 

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4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

All you can do is the best you can.  The biggest factor in longevity is your genes, and there's not much you can do about that.

cheers Maple Leaf so far have remained relatively healthy hopefully get the vaccine soon.

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18 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

All you can do is the best you can.  The biggest factor in longevity is your genes, and there's not much you can do about that.

 

My fathers father, obviously my grandfather, died in 1978 at 83 years old. But he spent his entire working life in the coal mines breathing coal dust. 


Prior to that he fought the entirety of WW1 and possibly only survived because he was a talented sniper they held back from the general slaughter. He was never sent 'over the top' into the massed machine guns with the rest of the cannon fodder.

All he did was snipe from the trenches in the daytime and crawl around in no mans land during darkness popping off whatever he might see when flares went up. He told me the Germans were frequently illuminating their own trenches at night with badly aimed flares they were sending up ironically in an attempt to spot these damn snipers.

My father beat him by one year, died in November at 84 years old just two months short of his 85th birthday. But he was taken by covid.  

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On 22/02/2021 at 02:41, Sharpie said:

 

Quite a change from when I done guards at the Palace. Of course in those days the guardsmen on sentry were outside the gates on the public area.  The guardroom was at the left end of the building as you would look at the Palace, never had a visit from any family member. Again in those days there was one night guard right in the Palace grounds, it was close to the steps you often see if the Queen is being interviewed or taped there. The sentries on that post were warned to be real careful as there were police security personnel posted in the heavily treed areas. That is one of the things I was referring to on another post, there is no privacy for them anywhere they are being watched openly and covertly everywhere. Charles was just a kid when I was at Buck, and Philip would not talk to a Guardsman, I doubt he even was aware that a Guardsman could put two word together. The stories about Guardsmen and the Royals are multitude but are exactly that stories. I done guards at the Palace as a Corporal and a Sergeant, never as a guardsman, and believe me if I had heard any of these tales with my detail the brown stuff would have been flying as would the guardsman on his way to the guardroom. The major stories of the day were mostly involving Princess Margaret and her importuning Guardsmen at St James Palace, but again like all these stories it was never a soldier from your own Battalion that you could ask, always from some other Regiment.

 I recently commented about Philip during  the centenary services for the General Assembly. The powers that be decided that a group of us would be a flying squad to be at various locations for arrival and departure of the Royals. I was delegated Prince Philips car and was instructed on how to open the door for him, obviously I was not seen as on of the cerebreal members. (Proven by not knowing how to spell cr...) At one point after a couple of door openings and Philip made a comment about seeing me again, we actually shared a wee knowing smile.

Nice story, when I was younger I fancied joining the Scots guards and always wondered what it would be like based at the Palace. When it came my time to join I chose the Royal Engineers instead and have a lot of respect for the Guardsmen and what they do.

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On 22/02/2021 at 10:28, sadj said:

 

 

Off to the supermarket I go (essential trip to get some whiskey)

 

It's whisky, you ****ing philistine.     :seething:

 

 

Edit. I see you've already been suitably reprimanded above.

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2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

My fathers father, obviously my grandfather, died in 1978 at 83 years old. But he spent his entire working life in the coal mines breathing coal dust. 


Prior to that he fought the entirety of WW1 and possibly only survived because he was a talented sniper they held back from the general slaughter. He was never sent 'over the top' into the massed machine guns with the rest of the cannon fodder.

All he did was snipe from the trenches in the daytime and crawl around in no mans land during darkness popping off whatever he might see when flares went up. He told me the Germans were frequently illuminating their own trenches at night with badly aimed flares they were sending up ironically in an attempt to spot these damn snipers.

My father beat him by one year, died in November at 84 years old just two months short of his 85th birthday. But he was taken by covid.  

 

Sorry to hear about your dad.

 

I would loved to have met your grandfather and had a good chinwag with him.

 

When I first left school there were still WWI vets in the workforce and I met a few of them.  They were all great guys.  For the most part they would prefer to talk about Hearts, but when they did talk about their wartime experiences it was fascinating stuff.

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50 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Sorry to hear about your dad.

 

I would loved to have met your grandfather and had a good chinwag with him.

 

When I first left school there were still WWI vets in the workforce and I met a few of them.  They were all great guys.  For the most part they would prefer to talk about Hearts, but when they did talk about their wartime experiences it was fascinating stuff.

 My father done two years in the trenches in France with the Gordon Highlanders. Never spoke about his war experiences, but made it clear how against army service he was when I decided to join. When my mother died he came to Canada to live with us. I finally got him to talk. He was a runner in the trenches, delivering messages for the officers. I later saw in a book about WW1 that said it was the detail with the highest mortality rate.  He died in his eighties, I returned his ashes to Edinburgh and he lies on the slope on a bend in the High Road in the Park where he can see the Edinburgh he loved and the Fife where he was born and raised, a quiet man who would fight at the drop of a hat, and who taught his son never threaten, and remember there are no Queensbury Rules in a street fight. His life evolved around Hearts, and I don't think he missed many services at the Hearts Memorial on Remembrance day.

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The Duke of Edinburgh is being treated for an infection and is not expected to leave hospital for several days, Buckingham Palace has said.

 

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1 minute ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

The Duke of Edinburgh is being treated for an infection and is not expected to leave hospital for several days, Buckingham Palace has said.

 

LAD!!

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On 22/02/2021 at 10:00, graygo said:

 

My great uncle died last week a few days short of his 102nd birthday, liked a nighttime whisky too 👍

Sorry to hear that, a good innings 

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