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6 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Indeed. 

 

For a laugh I checked the forecast. No rain. 30 degrees Celsius and more for days.

 

Won't need a 5th day....

 

Rabbits in the headlamps. Not even a huge turner yet.

 

That's the thing, quite a few have got out to balls that have went straight on....................all out as I type.

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On 16/02/2021 at 10:53, Malinga the Swinga said:

Just saw rerun of day 4 play. The English batsmen need to lock away pre-determined sweep to spin as that is getting them into all sorts of trouble. 

Just saw Moeen has opted to return to England and miss last 2 tests as fed up with 'bubble'. 

I've just noticed this comment, and don't think it's correct.

 

He was always going home after that test as part of the rotation policy. Other players have done it too.

 

I think it may have been wrong reported at the time

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Malinga the Swinga

Looks like most of English batsmen have decided to opt out of playing as well. Replaced by bunch of guys who stand on crease and miss straight balls. 

Let's see how Indian batsmen get on. 

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1 minute ago, JWL said:

Blatant cheating there!!!

 

Different standards. If that's what they do consistently in India fair enough.

 

But never looked at enough angles. Stokes will know 100% and he said it was out. 

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5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Different standards. If that's what they do consistently in India fair enough.

 

But never looked at enough angles. Stokes will know 100% and he said it was out. 

 

Never in control before the ball hit the ground. One look was enough. 

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Just now, JWL said:

 

Never in control before the ball hit the ground. One look was enough. 

 

You can't tell from that angle. Its distorted on tv. 

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There was a similar incident in the England innings with a low catch which I think wasn't taken.

 

They looked at it from 3 angles about 10 times. Given out. This was looked at from one angle which wasn't conclusive. Given not out. 

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Nelly Terraces

This is going to be yet another absolute slaughtering I'm afraid. Axar Patel & Ashwin are almost unplayable (fantastic to watch I must say) & it's only Day 1 ffs!

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I used to enjoy a five day game on a gradual deteriorating wicket with sides battling for a win or a draw. Few and far between those days. 

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1 hour ago, 132goals1958 said:

I used to enjoy a five day game on a gradual deteriorating wicket with sides battling for a win or a draw. Few and far between those days. 

A five day draw could often be a great match and the essence of test cricket. The short game is killing test cricket and the 5 day test match will soon be defunct.

 

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8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

3rd umpire doing everything to disprove Joe Root hit the ball for lbw. 

 

Different to yesterday. 

 

Not convinced he did hit it...

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2 hours ago, Peakybunnet said:

Don't fancy England's chances batting next when you see what their spinners are doing to India. 

 

This could be a 3 day match. 

 

2 days 

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23 minutes ago, Boof said:

 

Not convinced he did hit it...

 

Joe Root didn't think he hit it, didn't matter in the end though. Pity this, would have liked to have seen India chase around 150 on this pitch.

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11 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said:

Every ball has looked like a wicket in this innings. :facepalm: Englands been shit but something isn’t right with that pitch.

 

Its was slightly enjoyable noting the Indian commentators unable to explain how the great Indian batsmen of spin be unable to play part time spin. Root 5 wickets for 8 runs. I would put Root and Ben Stokes very part time spin on now. 

 

It's been fun. England have at least competed.

 

I think there are issues with the pitch beyond the obvious. I repeat the pressure on India to win at cricket is bigger than anything else. 

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8 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

England's batting is utterly pathetic and all these dismissals to non turning balls is bizarre. It shows that they are mentally in tatters.

 

However the fact that the Indians have struggled on it says to me that there is something wrong with the pitch preparation.

 

It was always going to favour spin but to be breaking up after 20 minutes on day 1 is ridiculous. 

 

The pitch is offering an unusual challenge there. Not as straightforward as it seems. 

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7 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

The pitch is offering an unusual challenge there. Not as straightforward as it seems. 

 

If India don't chase those runs down it would surely be some sort of record. There would be a lot of ritual suicides

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Malinga the Swinga

Let's blame the pink ball. Batting from both sides has been abject, almost as if they expect every ball to be turning square. 

More wickets to straight balls than spinning ones. 

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5 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Let's blame the pink ball. Batting from both sides has been abject, almost as if they expect every ball to be turning square. 

More wickets to straight balls than spinning ones. 

 

I have been watching cricket for as long as I wish to recall (brought up during the days of Laker & Lock) but I have never witnessed a test like this one.  Absolutely crazy and will be by far the shortest in my time. Never a Test match pitch

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7 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said:

 

I have been watching cricket for as long as I wish to recall (brought up during the days of Laker & Lock) but I have never witnessed a test like this one.  Absolutely crazy and will be by far the shortest in my time. Never a Test match pitch

 

 

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1 minute ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

So have I mate and that pitch played like those back in the day when pitches were uncovered.

 

Can you imagine Jim Laker or 'Deadly' Derek Underwood bowling on that ? 

 

Mind you back then players could play spin.....

 

Unfortunately the T 20 and the shorter game generally changed the dynamics. There was an abundance of swashbuckling batsmen back in the day who also had good technical ability. Like so many sports. commercialisation has taken over not always for the better. 

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6 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Couldn't agree more. I do enjoy the T20 matches but there is no real technique required. 

 

Just the need for a heavy bat and a good golf swing.

 

I enjoy them as well but I feel test matches are the pinnacle of the game and maybe the ICC should look at some of the pitch preparation. 

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3 minutes ago, weehammy said:

Those of us who value Test cricket (while enjoying other forms) will be dismayed at this farce. While 5 day test matches have become more unusual, a 2 day test is just a joke.

 

Couldn't agree more.

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1 hour ago, weehammy said:

Those of us who value Test cricket (while enjoying other forms) will be dismayed at this farce. While 5 day test matches have become more unusual, a 2 day test is just a joke.

 

 

1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

So have I mate and that pitch played like those back in the day when pitches were uncovered.

 

Can you imagine Jim Laker or 'Deadly' Derek Underwood bowling on that ? 

 

Mind you back then players could play spin.....

While pitch undoubtedly played its part in length of match, the review system also has to be factored in. 

Even a 10 or 15 years ago, batsmen put in big stride, hid bat behind pad, and were never given LBW. Now, with DRS, batsmen have to use bat to defend and their techniques are being found wanting. 

The lack of foot movement is astonishing, they just stand on crease or shuffler backwards. 

No one came down pitch, no one took different guard, they just froze and accepted they would be out. 

Warne, Underwood, Benaud and others would have had about 1000 wickets if DRS had been around when they played. 

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37 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

True. I wonder if the next test will get to three days. 

Next test will be played on concrete road. India 2-1 up and suspect pitch gives England a chance, so next pitch will do nothing allowing Indian batsmen to dominate. Apart from Root, rest of English batters freeze as soon as spinners come on, so difficult to see how England win. 

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Seymour M Hersh

Another pitch that is not prepared to Test Match standard.  While I am aware that all countries will prepare pitches to their teams strengths these last two wickets have been a total joke. 

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