ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, A Boy Named Crow said: I've got 45 mins left of my first day back at work. Talking to this lunatic passes the time. Here's a deep question If you reckon someone's a (really shite) troll, and you choose to engage them in conversation regardless, who is really trolling whom? He's easy. So easy that it's possible to push him over the edge and to jkb jail. But I won't as he's helped me pass the time and speak about my favourite, greatest and soon to be liberated from tyranny, country. The one and only Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kaiser Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 There should be another referendum the day after the Queen dies......honour her passing sort of thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Zlatanable said: You Scottish Nationalists are so touchy! Chill out, being so earnest and tightly wound can't be good for your long term health. Someone as hysterical as you telling anyone to chill out = Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taffin Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The issue isn't whether a referendum will be held or not, but rather will the Scottish people keek their breeks again or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manaliveits105 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Hubz tried that one with zero success Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kila Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Did the OP not start this exact thread a week or so ago? It’s almost as if writing that thread title gives them kicks and that they think it’ll sway enough votes against. 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indianajones Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Shame there isn't already a thread like this already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 21 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Hubz tried that one with zero success Scotland win the euros and independence in the same year. Who gies a feck about Hibs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 To be fair, I prefer the lame provocateur thing to the wide eyed innocent routine, at least it's more honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Weakened Offender Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Scottish Unionists are a docile bunch. 😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, ri Alban said: Well according to the GFA a treaty that was signed by Her Majesty's Government of the UK, it's 7 years. This September it will be 7 years since indyref, the only indyref Scotland has had in 314 years. Sorry about the threads, but for this to stop, that has to stop. That? Well just have read. As the interview yesterday with Boris got you all worked up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack D and coke Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 We need more Scottish independence referendums imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: As the interview yesterday with Boris got you all worked up? Scotland being a subservient vassal state has me all worked up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Potter Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, ri Alban said: Well according to the GFA a treaty that was signed by Her Majesty's Government of the UK, it's 7 years. This September it will be 7 years since indyref, the only indyref Scotland has had in 314 years. Sorry about the threads, but for this to stop, that has to stop. That? Well just have read. About 35 years, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: We need more Scottish independence referendums imo. Your wish is my command. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, ri Alban said: Your wish is my command. 👍 I just read that you're partly responsible for the No vote. You're quite the influential figure eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, Harry Potter said: About 35 years, Grandparents, Parents, Children. That's 3 generations that can be achieved in Scotland in 35 years, no probs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Potter Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Grandparents, Parents, Children. That's 3 generations that can be achieved in Scotland in 35 years, no probs. Had my son at 34, one generation, 2nd at 38. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: I just read that you're partly responsible for the No vote. You're quite the influential figure eh? Never really said a word pre independence, as i didn't think for a minute Scotland would shite the bed. Now, I don't give a shit what Scots born no voters think, Smithee. EU/UK no voters are irrelevant as they were voting on EU membership and UK mythology. So I don't hold a grudge, Scots born treachery, well... Edited January 4 by ri Alban Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM48 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Even though I support independence I would say a generation is probably defined as about 25/ 30 years ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: Scotland being a subservient vassal state has me all worked up. Not at all we are a key part of the United Kingdom and The Tories will be running us for a long time yet. Don't let the Wee Pretendy Parliament tell you otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greedy Jambo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 It's about time we had another indy ref, aW tHe ScOtTiSh WaNs ArE aGaInSt Us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Had my son at 34, one generation, 2nd at 38. I was 14, 18 and 24 when my boys were born. Grandpa at 43. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Not at all we are a key part of the United Kingdom and The Tories will be running us for a long time yet. Don't let the Wee Pretendy Parliament tell you otherwise. Mate keep that coming, you help my cause more than yours with that patter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Even though I support independence I would say a generation is probably defined as about 25/ 30 years ? Generally anywhere between 15-25 years is accepted but it's such a nonsense argument. The unionist side lied and bullshitted it's way through the whole thing, the ground littered with broken promises, yet to them a comment made by a couple of people is gospel because it suits. I dont GAF what sturgeon said, I want Scotland away from this toxic union. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Disability allowance is available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barack Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I was 14, 18 and 24 when my boys were born. Grandpa at 43. Did you not take the hint the first time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frankblack Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Are aussie_h and the unionist posters having a competition about how many independence threads they can get on the first page of the Shed at once? 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samuel Camazzola Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Based on the gap between Hibs' Scottish Cup wins, I'd round a generation to approx 40 years. 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cade Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Are folk still obssessing about this daft wee throwaway comment in a single interview that was only used to underline the importance of the vote? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Brown Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I've always thought a generation as 25 years. But as @ri Alban has shown, it can be as little as 14 years in some cooncil schemes. 14 years is probably pretty average in Dundee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Candy Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The whole "once in a generation" thing is a benefit to Nationalists. Just about every politician agrees that there WILL be another vote after - an as yet undetermined - period of time. Had the phrase never been used the argument would be about having one at all, not when. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 47 minutes ago, frankblack said: Are aussie_h and the unionist posters having a competition about how many independence threads they can get on the first page of the Shed at once? 🤔 Yes. Blame the Z man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Candy Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 35 minutes ago, Cade said: Are folk still obssessing about this daft wee throwaway comment in a single interview that was only used to underline the importance of the vote? It was used more than a single throwaway comment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cade Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 There will be another referendum when the people living in Scotland demand one. Another SNP landslide in a few months will be one indicator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Dongcaster Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I was completely on the fence about independence. Thinking about it now and I’m still unsure. Why should the average person who is pretty comfortable and not that driven by the thought of Scottish independence vote for it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Deeds Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Forgetting politics, i always thought a generation was 20 years. Politically I would say a generation lasts as long as the government so: Gen 1: Thatcher and Major Gen 2: Blair and Brown Gen 3:Cameron, May and Johnson As for the next Scottish independence referendum, I'd say it's in the Unionist interests to hold in sooner than later as more union supporters dying than reaching voting age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 We should have a Referendum on whatever, whether that be Indy, EU membership, the Monarchy etc... if the people of that Country vote in a Government on the basis of having said referendum in their manifesto. That's what happens in a Democracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Awbdy Oot Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Cade said: Are folk still obssessing about this daft wee throwaway comment in a single interview that was only used to underline the importance of the vote? Correct, it wasn't included in the Edinburgh agreement. It was a throwaway line just like the one Boris used about being dead in a ditch rather than agreeing a Brexit extension and Ruth Davidson saying we needed to say no to independence to stay in Europe, actually no, that was just a lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, graygo said: Correct, it wasn't included in the Edinburgh agreement. It was a throwaway line just like the one Boris used about being dead in a ditch rather than agreeing a Brexit extension and Ruth Davidson saying we needed to say no to independence to stay in Europe, actually no, that was just a lie. Mind when Ruth and Mundell said they'd resign if Northern Ireland got special treatment over Scotland after Brexit. Saying that I'm still waiting on the SNP to abolish the council tax and get us independence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Candy Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, graygo said: Correct, it wasn't included in the Edinburgh agreement. It was a throwaway line just like the one Boris used about being dead in a ditch rather than agreeing a Brexit extension and Ruth Davidson saying we needed to say no to independence to stay in Europe, actually no, that was just a lie. It was used here by the Scottish Government https://www.gov.scot/publications/scotlands-future/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lemongrab Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I'm sure I remember Sturgeon saying the referendum was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Was she referring to the lifetime of a Tasmanian tiger, or maybe a newt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paddy Crossan Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I always reckoned a generation was 20 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redjambo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I don't know why, but I have it in my mind that a generation is 25 years. That's a smokescreen though as there has been a definite and material change in the UK situation with Brexit and given that we voted against it in Scotland, that should trigger a re-assessment of the union. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Brown Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I've voted for the idea of Independence all my days. I'm not a hard-liner, more a romantacist. The Brexit vote totally surprised me, as usual Scotland voted entirely the opposite. Does the Scottish electorate have the stomach for it all again, but reversing us back into Europe? Severely doubt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boof Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: 39 years - Prime Minister has confirmed Pretending to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of that mendacious, intellectually limited hustler. Please - keep 'em coming. You really are a tonic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redjambo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: I've voted for the idea of Independence all my days. I'm not a hard-liner, more a romantacist. The Brexit vote totally surprised me, as usual Scotland voted entirely the opposite. Does the Scottish electorate have the stomach for it all again, but reversing us back into Europe? Severely doubt it. I was previously against independence and voted No in the independence referendum. However I now have a vigour for independence simply because of the whole Brexit process and seeing petty English nationalism coming to the fore. I'm an internationalist and a European, and the UK is moving in the opposite direction. I don't know if there are many more like me out there but if there are then we might make a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manaliveits105 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, Boof said: Pretending to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of that mendacious, intellectually limited hustler. Please - keep 'em coming. You really are a tonic. I dont believe anything she says now - proven liar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boof Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: I dont believe anything she says now - proven liar 'She'? Is Boris Johnson a woman now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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