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One of the Old Firm saying what about them. I am Shocked. 

Lennon was always going to turn into a snarling mess, I am just surprised it has taken so long.

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27 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said:

 

There are some OTT things being said in here but this is absolutely fair. St Johnstone have doing nothing more than put the record straight. Anybody inside or outside the game who criticises them for that is either being silly or they are attempting to deflect attention away from what the real story is here. 

 

Being accused of being lax or not good enough over Covid procedures is a very serious allegation. 

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2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Being accused of being lax or not good enough over Covid procedures is a very serious allegation. 

 

Indeed.

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3 hours ago, colinmaroon said:

 

Don't be silly.

 

Why find out the reality when you can wallow in your prejudice.

 

 

Nothing to do with prejudice silly. Levein has stuck up for Lennon in public on a number of occasions.

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2 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

St Johnstone and Hamilton should make the scum get changed in the stand if they don’t like the dressing rooms 


That happened to our players this season. Think it might have been Arbroath. The entire team genuinely got changed in the stand. Didn’t see us complain

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1 hour ago, Pilmuir said:

The presenter had probably been making notes from this morning’s BBC Scotland phone-in. One idiot was going on about the persecution of his “beautiful football team”.  Weird.
 

Levein has not been on lately - maybe he offended Lawell?


 

 

This person on radio Scotland called frank was also on talk

radio with the same script about the generosity of Celtic 

donating money for COVID as if no other team has helped out.

I am sure he is from Edinburgh but gives his location as glasgow 

or East Kilbride 

 

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19 minutes ago, Hairdryer said:

This person on radio Scotland called frank was also on talk

radio with the same script about the generosity of Celtic 

donating money for COVID as if no other team has helped out.

I am sure he is from Edinburgh but gives his location as glasgow 

or East Kilbride 

 

Heard him wittering on this morning on BBC Radio Scotland playing both the bigotry and victim card. Quite pathetic.

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2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

McCall was on but Ayr guy was last guest. The defence of Neil is in full swing as nothing wrong with St Johnstone statement. They are allowed to defend themselves. 


Ahh - cool. That St J statement was excellent IMO - better than bloody Hamilton’s which was so rubbish it didn’t even make the news it was even released!

 

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

People saying it was James McFaddden defending Celtic. 

 

From what I heard McFadden seemed pretty fair in his criticism - didn’t hear too much defending.

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2 hours ago, merrymac said:

They must have had a Celtic tape measure.

Came up a bit short in the end😂

I’ve heard that about Lennon 😱

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56 minutes ago, DS98 said:


That happened to our players this season. Think it might have been Arbroath. The entire team genuinely got changed in the stand. Didn’t see us complain

That’s good to know. The Celtic pre-Madonna’s ( an old kickback misspelling) wouldn’t like that 😀

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2 hours ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Yeah, it's not like they have previous form for that.

I know JDK but at this worldwide crisis time ,you would think it would be impossible to find a hiding place......it’s so unbelievably crap ,this should NOT be another under the rug sweep...... our government should have the SFA by the baws and publicly get what’s happening shown to the world ,then apologising on their knees to anyone affected by this horrible thing, 

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1 hour ago, DS98 said:


That happened to our players this season. Think it might have been Arbroath. The entire team genuinely got changed in the stand. Didn’t see us complain

IIRC, the JRG document does have some best endeavours wording plus also that away team Covid officer meets with the home team's one to review facilities and call out, request any improvements.

 

It is however, recognised that clubs can't spend £100ks to upgrade all their changing rooms.

 

It's up to the clubs how they work around by requesting use other parts of the stadium.

 

If Celtic go into a cramped dressing room, get a positive test and the whole match day playing, coaching and medical staff end up having to self isolate, that is their look out.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DS98 said:


That happened to our players this season. Think it might have been Arbroath. The entire team genuinely got changed in the stand. Didn’t see us complain

If BBC Scotland had a backbone, they could record Dundee players changing in the stand at Gayfield on Friday night, if they indeed do.

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You know how Celtic are a club like no other, and the Green Brigade are political etc have any of them questioned why they go every year to somewhere like Dubai and it’s dodgy record on pretty much everything 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️?!?!

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1 hour ago, Hairdryer said:

This person on radio Scotland called frank was also on talk

radio with the same script about the generosity of Celtic 

donating money for COVID as if no other team has helped out.

I am sure he is from Edinburgh but gives his location as glasgow 

or East Kilbride 

 

Lafferty 🤔

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10 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

If BBC Scotland had a backbone, they could record Dundee players changing in the stand at Gayfield on Friday night, if they indeed do.

The way the weather's going I don't think there will be any match at Arbroath on Friday (or at Livi tomorrow for that matter)

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1 minute ago, Horatio Caine said:

The way the weather's going I don't think there will be any match at Arbroath on Friday (or at Livi tomorrow for that matter)

Aye.

 

Snowing where I am now.

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16 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

You know how Celtic are a club like no other, and the Green Brigade are political etc have any of them questioned why they go every year to somewhere like Dubai and it’s dodgy record on pretty much everything 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️?!?!

 

Dubai are not nearly as anti-semitic as the green brigade

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1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Dubai are not nearly as anti-semitic as the green brigade

I don’t know what they’ve said to be honest, slagging Israel for its treatment of Palestine isn’t Anti-Semitic. 

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1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

If BBC Scotland had a backbone, they could record Dundee players changing in the stand at Gayfield on Friday night, if they indeed do.

Or the multi million Spurs squad getting changed in the bar of Marine last week.  

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2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

You know how Celtic are a club like no other, and the Green Brigade are political etc have any of them questioned why they go every year to somewhere like Dubai and it’s dodgy record on pretty much everything 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️?!?!

The authorities, particularly the State Security Agency (SSA), subjected detainees, including foreign nationals, to arbitrary arrest and detention, torture and enforced disappearance. The authorities also restricted freedom of expression, imprisoning government critics and holding them in dire conditions. In a positive development in women’s rights, almost 200 women stood in the Federal National Council (FNC) elections in October, more than double the number in the last elections; still, women continued to face discrimination in law and in practice. On migrants’ rights, the authorities removed the job title criteria for sponsorship, which allowed more migrant workers to sponsor family members to live in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). However, migrant workers remained tied to employers under the kafala (sponsorship) system, which made them vulnerable to labour abuses and exploitation. The UAE continued to deny nationality to thousands of individuals who were born within its borders. While no executions were reported, courts continued to issue death sentences.

 

Take the positives. 

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14 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

The authorities, particularly the State Security Agency (SSA), subjected detainees, including foreign nationals, to arbitrary arrest and detention, torture and enforced disappearance. The authorities also restricted freedom of expression, imprisoning government critics and holding them in dire conditions. In a positive development in women’s rights, almost 200 women stood in the Federal National Council (FNC) elections in October, more than double the number in the last elections; still, women continued to face discrimination in law and in practice. On migrants’ rights, the authorities removed the job title criteria for sponsorship, which allowed more migrant workers to sponsor family members to live in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). However, migrant workers remained tied to employers under the kafala (sponsorship) system, which made them vulnerable to labour abuses and exploitation. The UAE continued to deny nationality to thousands of individuals who were born within its borders. While no executions were reported, courts continued to issue death sentences.

 

Take the positives. 

Nice place. 

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9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

You know how Celtic are a club like no other, and the Green Brigade are political etc have any of them questioned why they go every year to somewhere like Dubai and it’s dodgy record on pretty much everything 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️?!?!

It's a great point. Do you think St Pauli would let their team go there?

 

Socialist club eh. Like Barca, one of the most capitalist organisations you could imagine. And their fans lap it up while singing their songs and flying their banners, which the club encourage, because, you know, it makes them money.

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My 12 year laddie has just made me smile. He was at school yesterday as both me and his mum were at work yesterday as we are key workers. Anyway I'm off today so doing the home schooling.

Yesterday they had a quiz at school.

Question. What is the only venomous snake native to Great Britain?

Son's answer. Neil Lennon.

 

Well it made me smile.

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13 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

St Johnstone and Hamilton should make the scum get changed in the stand if they don’t like the dressing rooms 

Do the police water cannons need a quick run out and test?

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At the weekend Richard Gordon had another little giggle when it was mentioned that there is growing concern that the conspiracy theory that Celtic are trying to null and void the season, he was told don’t laugh people believe it.

 

So is Celtic actively trying to null and void the season?  Well I don’t think the Dubai trip was part of that evil genius plan, it was just Celtic and their arrogance that they are better than everybody else and they wanted to rub everybody’s nose in it like the ungracious winners they are, and no words can describe them as losers, when they lose.

 

But is Celtic actively trying to null and void the season?  50m Trump supporters can’t be wrong can they? Only they are!  So let’s look at the bigger picture:

Do people believe the game in Scotland is corrupt?

Is the SFA and the SPFL run by corrupt officials?

Were Celtic behind the call to halt the season early?

Did Doncaster lie about null and void last season?

Do people believe the closed doors arbitration was a cover up?

Is Liewell behind all of this?

Are Celtic capable of working behind the scenes to null and void the season? 

 

If the answer to even half of those questions is yes, then you have to believe that this is more than a conspiracy theory.  Maxwell was off like the B in bang when he thought there was a sniff of a Championship club wanting to halt.  Lennon’s drunken tirade is what he does best and is to goad, goad and goad until he gets hit, then claims victimhood.  He has even tried to goad the SG,  not the best thing to do when they hold all the cards on allowing the game to tumble on  (hmmmm).  Swinney called his comments as appalling without getting personal, which was all that was needed.

 

Let’s see what Celtic do next shall we?  If the SPFL/SFA try any stunt to halt the league on their behalf then there irrefutable proof.  Perhaps we should all play Celtic at their own game, Goad, goad and goad and Vote them out of the league, just because the American masses are wrong does not equate that we are wrong. Now there’s your medicine!

 

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6 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

Do people believe the game in Scotland is corrupt? Yes

Is the SFA and the SPFL run by corrupt officials? Yes

Were Celtic behind the call to halt the season early? Yes

Did Doncaster lie about null and void last season? Yes

Do people believe the closed doors arbitration was a cover up? Yes

Is Liewell behind all of this? Yes

Are Celtic capable of working behind the scenes to null and void the season? Yes

 

 

 

 

Honest answers above.

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2 hours ago, John Findlay said:

My 12 year laddie has just made me smile. He was at school yesterday as both me and his mum were at work yesterday as we are key workers. Anyway I'm off today so doing the home schooling.

Yesterday they had a quiz at school.

Question. What is the only venomous snake native to Great Britain?

Son's answer. Neil Lennon.

 

Well it made me smile.

Made me smile as well 😂

 

Well played, your son has been brought up well 👍

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53 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

At the weekend Richard Gordon had another little giggle when it was mentioned that there is growing concern that the conspiracy theory that Celtic are trying to null and void the season, he was told don’t laugh people believe it.

 

So is Celtic actively trying to null and void the season?  Well I don’t think the Dubai trip was part of that evil genius plan, it was just Celtic and their arrogance that they are better than everybody else and they wanted to rub everybody’s nose in it like the ungracious winners they are, and no words can describe them as losers, when they lose.

 

But is Celtic actively trying to null and void the season?  50m Trump supporters can’t be wrong can they? Only they are!  So let’s look at the bigger picture:

Do people believe the game in Scotland is corrupt?

Is the SFA and the SPFL run by corrupt officials?

Were Celtic behind the call to halt the season early?

Did Doncaster lie about null and void last season?

Do people believe the closed doors arbitration was a cover up?

Is Liewell behind all of this?

Are Celtic capable of working behind the scenes to null and void the season? 

 

If the answer to even half of those questions is yes, then you have to believe that this is more than a conspiracy theory.  Maxwell was off like the B in bang when he thought there was a sniff of a Championship club wanting to halt.  Lennon’s drunken tirade is what he does best and is to goad, goad and goad until he gets hit, then claims victimhood.  He has even tried to goad the SG,  not the best thing to do when they hold all the cards on allowing the game to tumble on  (hmmmm).  Swinney called his comments as appalling without getting personal, which was all that was needed.

 

Let’s see what Celtic do next shall we?  If the SPFL/SFA try any stunt to halt the league on their behalf then there irrefutable proof.  Perhaps we should all play Celtic at their own game, Goad, goad and goad and Vote them out of the league, just because the American masses are wrong does not equate that we are wrong. Now there’s your medicine!

 

 

...if N & V is their plan, the only way they will go about it is trying to get the SG to ban football - by goading - as you say. That way the sfa/spfl can peddle their favourite line "...it wisnae us, it wiz them." The sfa/spfl are cowards and wouldn't have the balls to call it themselves.

 

Do I think it will happen? No... but a warped part of me would love to see them try. sellick/sfa/spfl have made all the wrong moves so far and any controversy has had this cabal at the front and centre of it. It would be glorious... and I also believe it would mean the re-birth of Scottish football, built from the ground up, and definitely the end of dungcaster and the likes.

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3 hours ago, TheBigO said:

It's a great point. Do you think St Pauli would let their team go there?

 

Socialist club eh. Like Barca, one of the most capitalist organisations you could imagine. And their fans lap it up while singing their songs and flying their banners, which the club encourage, because, you know, it makes them money.

Indeed, that’s the only reason Lawell gave his downbeat apology, stick with us - keep buying season tickets. 

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32 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

 

...if N & V is their plan, the only way they will go about it is trying to get the SG to ban football - by goading - as you say. That way the sfa/spfl can peddle their favourite line "...it wisnae us, it wiz them." The sfa/spfl are cowards and wouldn't have the balls to call it themselves.

 

Do I think it will happen? No... but a warped part of me would love to see them try. sellick/sfa/spfl have made all the wrong moves so far and any controversy has had this cabal at the front and centre of it. It would be glorious... and I also believe it would mean the re-birth of Scottish football, built from the ground up, and definitely the end of dungcaster and the likes.

 

Like i said earlier, if it is found out that celtic are deliberately trying to goad thr SG into banning football then they should be expelled from the league.

 

I personally do not believe they are doing that, they are just a shambles and frantically scrambling around to save face and ticket sales. The difference now is that the SG are watching the game closely and this kind of nonsense is not tolerated in the same way our own governing bodies do.

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29 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

Apologies if already posted, John Swinney on Lennon.....

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55730538

 

"I have no ill will to Neil Lennon whatsoever, but I think his comments in this respect have been absolutely appalling."

 

Appalling presser reaction.

Appalling individual.

Appalling team.

 

A fellow Jambo apparently. 

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5 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Like i said earlier, if it is found out that celtic are deliberately trying to goad thr SG into banning football then they should be expelled from the league.

 

I personally do not believe they are doing that, they are just a shambles and frantically scrambling around to save face and ticket sales. The difference now is that the SG are watching the game closely and this kind of nonsense is not tolerated in the same way our own governing bodies do.

Exactly, their actions might well get football stopped but it’s not some grand plan, just incompetence and privilege on and off the pitch. 

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1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Like i said earlier, if it is found out that celtic are deliberately trying to goad thr SG into banning football then they should be expelled from the league.

 

I personally do not believe they are doing that, they are just a shambles and frantically scrambling around to save face and ticket sales. The difference now is that the SG are watching the game closely and this kind of nonsense is not tolerated in the same way our own governing bodies do.

 

...banning sellick from Scottish football... what a glorious sight that would be.

 

But yes, an absolute shambles, they're making it more difficult for the sfa/spfl to defend them... which is why we hear nothing from them unless it's to try and stop the championship or investigate the Livi manager. NOTHING about sellick. Their silence on sellick is telling... desperation is well and truly kicking in.

 

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16 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Like i said earlier, if it is found out that celtic are deliberately trying to goad thr SG into banning football then they should be expelled from the league.

 

I personally do not believe they are doing that, they are just a shambles and frantically scrambling around to save face and ticket sales. The difference now is that the SG are watching the game closely and this kind of nonsense is not tolerated in the same way our own governing bodies do.

 

Celtic can say and do whatever they want, had any other manager including Stevie Gerrard said what Lennon did they'd be up on charges before the day was finished.

 

The fact that not a word has been said should be taken as free reign to all managers to say what they want.

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16 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

He was on last night DEFENDING Lennon, having been in the same situation where everything he does is a disaster he empathised with him. 
A lot of people see similarities between the two, not exactly popular within the game.  

Simply untrue . He did say he felt sorry for him . Went on to discuss the situation from a manager's point of view in a fair , reasoned manner . I appreciate many on here don't want fair and reasoned on any subject , particularly Lennon

Best pundit [non journalist] on the media by a country mile .

Whatever happened during his time at Tynecastle is a completely different subject

 

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32 minutes ago, john thomas said:

Simply untrue . He did say he felt sorry for him . Went on to discuss the situation from a manager's point of view in a fair , reasoned manner . I appreciate many on here don't want fair and reasoned on any subject , particularly Lennon

Best pundit [non journalist] on the media by a country mile .

Whatever happened during his time at Tynecastle is a completely different subject

 

He said I know how he feels when everything you do is wrong and nothing works, that’s defending his rant. 
You might think that his punditry has nothing to do with what happened at Hearts but his comments on Lennon show that’s exactly what he was empathising with poor hard done by Neil for. The same guy thats goaded Hearts fans for years, pretended to be hit in the face with a coin and called us racists. Whilst not condemning him his own fans for assaulting our GK and throwing stuff like coconuts and keys too. 
Just another football failure hired by the BBC to tell us how people who can actually do the job should do it. 
As someone who has pointed out Lennons mental health problems and the part they play in his behaviour, I’m more than capable of a fair and reasoned discussion on him being such an arsehole and unpopular. 
Whats Leveins excuse?

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12 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

He said I know how he feels when everything you do is wrong and nothing works, that’s defending his rant. 
You might think that his punditry has nothing to do with what happened at Hearts but his comments on Lennon show that’s exactly what he was empathising with poor hard done by Neil for. The same guy thats goaded Hearts fans for years, pretended to be hit in the face with a coin and called us racists. Whilst not condemning him his own fans for assaulting our GK and throwing stuff like coconuts and keys too. 
Just another football failure hired by the BBC to tell us how people who can actually do the job should do it. 
As someone who has pointed out Lennons mental health problems and the part they play in his behaviour, I’m more than capable of a fair and reasoned discussion on him being such an arsehole and unpopular. 
Whats Leveins excuse?

Struggling to make sense of the highlighted sentence .

Fair bit of your post is completely irrelevant to my post

I know an awful lot of fans [not Hearts] who agree completely with my opinion of Levein as a pundit . Apart from [to some understandable] prejudice what is to criticise ?

I'm assuming your final paragraph was meant to be ironic

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Hopefully a,square go in the Livvy Car Park between Lennon and Walker tonight. Promoted by Barry Hearn of course.

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2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

So Julien moved seats on the bus but no one gave a shit at the time ?

And isn't this what Killie got hit with originally ie lack of control on the team bus when they didn't have a doctor or club official monitoring what people were doing ?

 

And Lennon seems to think Celtic did nothing wrong. 

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2 hours ago, Auldbenches said:

So Celtic go on a trip to Dubai where 2 players caught covid and st johnstone are now the bad guys?  

 

Correct.

I'm currently binge watching The Office and Lennon reminds me of an angry , bitter Michael Scott. 

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1 hour ago, Rudy T said:

 

Celtic can say and do whatever they want, had any other manager including Stevie Gerrard said what Lennon did they'd be up on charges before the day was finished.

 

The fact that not a word has been said should be taken as free reign to all managers to say what they want.

 

Celtic and Lennon have not carefully cultivated their mantle of vicTIMhood since 1888 for no good reason. Whenever that club end up in any conflict situation, their opponents and/or the authorities ALWAYS end up stepping back in fear of being accused of sectarianism against those poor celts.

It's their tactic every time ; you're only picking on us because we are kafflick, Oirish blah blah blah...

Absolutely nobody does a persecution complex quite like them.

It's high time others saw them for what they are and started giving them it tight. 

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