Muppetboy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Was thinking of getting this done to my Peugeot 207 hdi just for a wee bit more ooomph. Anyone know how easy/successful this is and any problems that may arise? Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) If you want a quicker car buy a quicker car. Chances are the standard clutch won't be able to handle the increase in torque so will start to slip. Edited November 23, 2020 by Jamie Walker Tash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 One of the problems is your insurance company won't like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 https://www.comparethemarket.com/car-insurance/content/what-is-car-remapping/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Muppetboy said: Was thinking of getting this done to my Peugeot 207 hdi just for a wee bit more ooomph. Anyone know how easy/successful this is and any problems that may arise? Many thanks in advance You taking it to knockhill to race round the track 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Muppetboy said: Was thinking of getting this done to my Peugeot 207 hdi just for a wee bit more ooomph. Anyone know how easy/successful this is and any problems that may arise? Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Buy a real car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Ridiculing someone who’s suffered financially during the pandemic just because of the car they drive.Classy. usual suspects so no surprise there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hector Riva Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, Muppetboy said: Ridiculing someone who’s suffered financially during the pandemic just because of the car they drive.Classy. usual suspects so no surprise there Nobody is ridiculing you for driving a Pug, they are taking the piss out of you wasting money (and potentially invalidating your insurance) on trying to get a barely noticeable power increase out of a pug (despite being financially hit during the pandemic). Doubt there would have been any piss taking had you said, 'since the pandemic i've changed jobs meaning I need to tow a trailer/carry extra weight in my car and it struggles sometimes, would remapping help?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Ribble said: Nobody is ridiculing you for driving a Pug, they are taking the piss out of you wasting money (and potentially invalidating your insurance) on trying to get a barely noticeable power increase out of a pug (despite being financially hit during the pandemic). Doubt there would have been any piss taking had you said, 'since the pandemic i've changed jobs meaning I need to tow a trailer/carry extra weight in my car and it struggles sometimes, would remapping help?' Thanks for clearing that up, though I wouldn’t think about getting it done without insurance approval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Polishing a turd springs to mind... BUT In my younger days in the 80's I put sports exhausts, suspension upgrades, carburettor upgrades etc etc etc on a 1978 1.3 Ford Escort 4 door. Spent a bloody fortune. Ended up replacing the engine and the gearbox twice and smashed the rear diff doing wheel spins!!! I was as proud as feck! What can I say, young and dumb! If you love it then go for it mate. Fek them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarkus1981 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Ive had my car remapped. Made a big difference in my BMW 330d. Don't regret it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, mrmarkus1981 said: Ive had my car remapped. Made a big difference in my BMW 330d. Don't regret it at all What did your insurers say about it? Were they ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I would do it. You can get a few extra mpg out of the car which is great if your like me and watch the range and mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarkus1981 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Candy said: What did your insurers say about it? Were they ok? Forgot to mention it! Was like that when i bought it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mrmarkus1981 said: Ive had my car remapped. Made a big difference in my BMW 330d. Don't regret it at all Certainly worth it in a car like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 A quick google search says that you’ll get 30% improvement in power from a stage 1 remap, more if you remove the dpf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Jamie Walker Tash said: If you want a quicker car buy a quicker car. Chances are the standard clutch won't be able to handle the increase in torque so will start to slip. The drive train on any car is typically rated for about 150% of the standard power/torque. Should be no worries with the numbers we are talking about here. Absolutely worth doing. Diesel engines respond very well to it. You might not get an appreciable difference in power, but you will definitely notice more torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, mutley said: A quick google search says that you’ll get 30% improvement in power from a stage 1 remap, more if you remove the dpf. Which will then fail you your MOT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarkus1981 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 If they notice. Mate of mine had his Audi A5 remapped and dfp removed. It passed the emissions test without the dpf so they never looked for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mrmarkus1981 said: If they notice. Mate of mine had his Audi A5 remapped and dfp removed. It passed the emissions test without the dpf so they never looked for it 😂 Did he slip them a sly £20 before the test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mutley said: A quick google search says that you’ll get 30% improvement in power from a stage 1 remap, more if you remove the dpf. I've got a 316d BMW and a quick google say's a stage 1 would give me a 57% increase in bhp, 32% in torque. That sounds great but what it doesn't tell me is how the increase is being achieved. Each suppliers mapping can be different too, as can where they draw out the extra power, if it's the Ignition Timing then need to be careful of knock and also might need higher octane fuel, if it's the Air/Fuel Ratio then it might have a significant impact on emissions/economy, if it's the boost then your are adding heat and pressure in the cylinders etc so i'd say if anyone is actually getting their car chipped then make sure you know where the increases are coming from and be aware of their impacts on the rest of your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mrmarkus1981 said: If they notice. Mate of mine had his Audi A5 remapped and dfp removed. It passed the emissions test without the dpf so they never looked for it Then he is driving illegally: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-for-mot-to-test-for-diesel-particulate-filter "Garages and testing stations will be required check for a diesel particulate filter (DPF) in the inspection of the exhaust system as part of the MOT test (or annual test for heavy vehicles) from February 2014. The vehicle will automatically fail the MOT test if the filter had been fitted as standard but is found to be no longer present. The filter works by trapping solid particulate matter from exhaust gases. This type of filter has been in use for more than 20 years and helps meet European emission standards, improving air quality and health standards. Some firms offer services to remove the filter, claiming it will improve the economy. But it is an offence to drive a vehicle that has been modified this way, as it will no longer meet the emissions standards the car achieved when it was approved for sale in the UK." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I've looked at this before as well. Not entirely sure I trust it, as apparently I can go from 74bhp to 128bhp, which is a 72% increase... Probably be a 72% increase on my insurance as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, tian447 said: I've looked at this before as well. Not entirely sure I trust it, as apparently I can go from 74bhp to 128bhp, which is a 72% increase... Probably be a 72% increase on my insurance as well! 72% quicker into a wall with the engine on fire too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, Ribble said: 72% quicker into a wall with the engine on fire too! Sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, trotter said: The drive train on any car is typically rated for about 150% of the standard power/torque. Should be no worries with the numbers we are talking about here. Absolutely worth doing. Diesel engines respond very well to it. You might not get an appreciable difference in power, but you will definitely notice more torque. Have to take into account the age and mileage of the car. A remap on a car that really isn't bought for that purpose will most definitely put unnecessary stress on the standard clutch. I've owned performance cars that had the clutch slipping after a remap, I just cant see a Peugeot diesel hatchback being able to handle anywhere near 150% of it standard power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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