kila Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Begins on Thursday with zero 'patrons' and no par 3 tournament on the Wednesday. Some players will prefer that, but it won't quite be the same and will probably have an exhibition feel to it. Maybe the DeChambeau exhibition? He's already ripping his 3 wood 350 yards during the warm up rounds. Due to daylight, the cut will be just the top 50 players (plus ties) rather than including those within 10 shots of the leader. Hopefully no one else joins Sergio Garcia on the sidelines after he tested positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Really open betting market but I would definitely go for the powerful hitters. DeChambeau, DJ, Koepka, McIlroy, Finau, Rahm. Finau looks the best value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 EW choices from Rahm, Willett, Cantlay, Hatton, Simpson, Finau. If McIlroy can get the putter going, he could achieve his career slam. Weather looks quite mild but chances of thunder and rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 DeChambeau's practice round with Sandy Lyle was erm....interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 If DeChambeau wins by just bombing it and gouging out the rough like he did at the US Open, the games ****ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cruyff said: If DeChambeau wins by just bombing it and gouging out the rough like he did at the US Open, the games ****ed. Nah. If someone can crash it around and still post a winning score then fair play. It's been done before. Risk & reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The greens will be slow af. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 https://www.masters.com/en_US/players/pairings/index.html First tee off is 12 noon GMT. Woods defends his title at 12:55pm GMT starting on the 10th. A compressed two tee start due to daylight with full live coverage of it all. Shame it's taken a pandemic for the Masters board to allow full TV coverage from the start. Hopefully their limits on TV ad breaks and 3rd party branding are still there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 22 hours ago, Cruyff said: If DeChambeau wins by just bombing it and gouging out the rough like he did at the US Open, the games ****ed. Nae rough, just pine needles, trees & creeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tazio Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Just opened the thread to post this exact thing. Bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Would like Fowler or Thomas to win, but also quite like Speith & Xander S. Can't be bothered with Bryson or Bruce K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hatton for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, OBE said: Nae rough, just pine needles, trees & creeks. Aye true. I see he's maybe going with a 48" Driver in attempt to turn Augusta into a Pitch and Putt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Tony Finau, Bubba Watson or, Colin Morikawa for me. It'll be an American anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Fitzpatrick has been playing well recently. One to watch. I fancy DJ or Thomas though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Aye true. I see he's maybe going with a 48" Driver in attempt to turn Augusta into a Pitch and Putt. I don't think he is now but Phil is likely to use his. 16 hours ago, ri Alban said: The greens will be slow af. No they won't. Pace can be controlled due to the sub-air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said: I don't think he is now but Phil is likely to use his. No they won't. Pace can be controlled due to the sub-air. Will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Jon, Bryson and Louis What a 3. Should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Tazio said: Just opened the thread to post this exact thing. Bonkers. Heid up...he thinned it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 hours ago, OBE said: Heid up...he thinned it... The great thing is people will be practising that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, OBE said: Heid up...he thinned it... 2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: The great thing is people will be practising that now. Watch Vijay Singh's effort from a few years back. With the patron's in attendance, the anticipation from them makes it pure theatre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Had tickets and the parents were coming over to tick off a bucket list event - tickets have been carried over to 2021 but not sure patrons will be out and about by then either unless vaccine is available. Have the option to change to another event so was thinking about the Ryder Cup in September. Hatton a good E/W bet I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I've backed Rahm, Cantlay, Day and Harding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MES Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Hatton a good E/W bet I reckon i agree👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I hope Bryson wins. I hope he bombs it everywhere, hitting par 5's with a drive and a 9 iron. I hope he hits nothing more than a wedge into a par 4. Otherwise nothing will change. Problem is he putts like an amateur at the Masters so he isn't the hot favourite folk think he is imo. Basically I'm saying he should be the trigger for a tournament golf ball. Yes he will still be longer but not so long it makes every course redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: I hope Bryson wins. I hope he bombs it everywhere, hitting par 5's with a drive and a 9 iron. I hope he hits nothing more than a wedge into a par 4. Otherwise nothing will change. Problem is he putts like an amateur at the Masters so he isn't the hot favourite folk think he is imo. Basically I'm saying he should be the trigger for a tournament golf ball. Yes he will still be longer but not so long it makes every course redundant. Totally disagreed until I realised what you were saying. It may well be he catalyst for the change that golf is screaming out for if he wins with a pitch and putt show. He isn't allowed his green card at Augusta mind so could come a cropper on that front. Anyway, Rahm and Fowler for me.........................................again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, JWL said: Totally disagreed until I realised what you were saying. It may well be he catalyst for the change that golf is screaming out for if he wins with a pitch and putt show. He isn't allowed his green card at Augusta mind so could come a cropper on that front. Anyway, Rahm and Fowler for me.........................................again. I'm also in no way blaming him but he should be the straw that breaks the camels back. The putting will probably hide it as you say with no slope chart. Anyway I'm going for Hatton in a hoodie just to piss folk off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 The par 5 13th is getting lengthened after the 2022 April Masters. Longer golf courses won’t solve the problem though. The game wasn’t meant for 400 yard drives. Will be interesting to see how DeChambeau does this time though. He was a bit wayward last year but 19 months later he’s evolved his game further. Doesn’t mean he won’t get bitten by the course and I’ll be disappointed if he just flies past the danger each hole. I will give up watching golf if Tyrell Hatton wins this though, can’t stand the guy! But he’s a likely candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Paul Casey & Xander Schauffele for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 09/11/2020 at 19:23, kila said: Begins on Thursday with zero 'patrons' and no par 3 tournament on the Wednesday. Some players will prefer that, but it won't quite be the same and will probably have an exhibition feel to it. Maybe the DeChambeau exhibition? He's already ripping his 3 wood 350 yards during the warm up rounds. Due to daylight, the cut will be just the top 50 players (plus ties) rather than including those within 10 shots of the leader. Hopefully no one else joins Sergio Garcia on the sidelines after he tested positive. hoping Rory can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Looking forward to it. I have Thomas, Cantlay and Hatton to win, Champ, Cameron Smith and Oosty ew. As said above, I don’t think DeChambeau is a good enough putter to win no matter how far he skelps it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Liking the chances of Adam Scott this week for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, kila said: The par 5 13th is getting lengthened after the 2022 April Masters. Longer golf courses won’t solve the problem though. The game wasn’t meant for 400 yard drives. Will be interesting to see how DeChambeau does this time though. He was a bit wayward last year but 19 months later he’s evolved his game further. Doesn’t mean he won’t get bitten by the course and I’ll be disappointed if he just flies past the danger each hole. I will give up watching golf if Tyrell Hatton wins this though, can’t stand the guy! But he’s a likely candidate. Sky were showing footage on how Tournaments from previous years were won. During the 1990 Masters, Faldo hit a cracking drive around the corner giving him an opportunity to go for it in two. I think his approach was with a 4 iron. On 15, he approached with a 2 iron. The same type of shots in the current era are with 7 or 8 irons and it sounds like they are trying to remove that possibility with the extra land they have behind 13. Bryson has made huge gains in his own driving game but he is not hitting it much further than the likes of Johnson, McIlroy, Champ and Peters who have been huge for a prolonged period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Notts1874 said: I hope Bryson wins. I hope he bombs it everywhere, hitting par 5's with a drive and a 9 iron. I hope he hits nothing more than a wedge into a par 4. Otherwise nothing will change. Problem is he putts like an amateur at the Masters so he isn't the hot favourite folk think he is imo. Basically I'm saying he should be the trigger for a tournament golf ball. Yes he will still be longer but not so long it makes every course redundant. Also would have totally agreed with changing the ball until I listened to Ian Poulter last night. Ian Poulter said, limit Driver loft to a minimum of 8.5 or 9°c. The reason Bryson hits it so far is because he's worked out that if he hits a 4°c driver on the up, he reduces spin and the ball goes miles. But to do this he has to swing in a certain way. If he was playing with an 8.5 or 9°c driver however, his distance off the tee would be dramatically cut as he'd lose club head speed as he would use a more traditional swing and have no control of spin. Edited November 12, 2020 by Cruyff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Also would have totally agreed with changing the ball until I listened to Ian Poulter last night. Ian Poulter said, limit Driver loft to a minimum of 8.5 or 9°c. The reason Bryson hits it so far is because he's worked out that if he hits a 4°c driver on the up, he reduces spin and the ball goes miles. But to do this he has to swing in a certain way. If he was playing with an 8.5 or 9°c driver however, his distance off the tee would be dramatically cut as he'd lose club head speed as he would use a more traditional swing and have no control of spin. If limits need to come in then this is the solution. Minimum 8 degrees. 4 degrees is ridiculous. Personally I wouldn't change anything. If someone has the skill to slay a 4 degree driver and keep it in play all the time thrn I say fair play to the guy. Seems unsustainable anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Victorian said: If limits need to come in then this is the solution. Minimum 8 degrees. 4 degrees is ridiculous. Personally I wouldn't change anything. If someone has the skill to slay a 4 degree driver and keep it in play all the time thrn I say fair play to the guy. Seems unsustainable anyway. Love Phil mickelson, but his driving🤔guid round the green though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Play suspended already due to rain, threat of torrential on its way No danger this is all getting finished by Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, kila said: Play suspended already due to rain, threat of torrential on its way No danger this is all getting finished by Sunday. They don't play in rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Not regretting renewing Sky Sports at all right now, especially with the Scotland game free-to-air tonight...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, kila said: Not regretting renewing Sky Sports at all right now, especially with the Scotland game free-to-air tonight...! Just watch the golf on hesgoal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Cruyff said: Just watch the golf on hesgoal. I did that for the Scottish Open, but lack of proper HD and English made Sky Sports worth paying. Was getting distracted by saucy ads too! I bet you're glad there is a weather delay right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, kila said: Not regretting renewing Sky Sports at all right now, especially with the Scotland game free-to-air tonight...! 15 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Just watch the golf on hesgoal. It's free on Sky Sports via YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said: It's free on Sky Sports via YouTube Amen Corner is (like the old BBC Red Button that showed it), but not the full coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, kila said: Amen Corner is (like the old BBC Red Button that showed it), but not the full coverage? I see. I spied a tweet from Sky but didn't peruse the finer print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, kila said: Play suspended already due to rain, threat of torrential on its way No danger this is all getting finished by Sunday. The joys of winter golf.😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Play back underway. The sun is shining, t-shirt temperatures and there is barely a breath of wind. Woods gets his defence underway in 30 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Bryson not accurate so far with the big gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) Pretty mediocre driving by DeChambeau so far. 290 carry from a bit of a slice in mild conditions on 13. Edited November 12, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Bryson lucky to break 80 the way he’s going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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