Tazio Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, McGlynn The Money said: Such as? The European Commission where the agreement was deemed illegal for one. To be fair they weren’t the only Spanish club punished but it was the only land deal. Presuming you are talking about the deal where Real sold their training ground and as part of the deal received a piece of land valued at around £0.5m only to sell it back to the council for over £20m a few years later. An agreement which was later deemed illegal and they had to pay back over half the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGlynn The Money Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tazio said: The European Commission where the agreement was deemed illegal for one. To be fair they weren’t the only Spanish club punished but it was the only land deal. Presuming you are talking about the deal where Real sold their training ground and as part of the deal received a piece of land valued at around £0.5m only to sell it back to the council for over £20m a few years later. An agreement which was later deemed illegal and they had to pay back over half the money? I think you need to check your sources. The European Commission investigated it and found no wrongdoing. People will believe what they want though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, McGlynn The Money said: I think you need to check your sources. The European Commission investigated it and found no wrongdoing. People will believe what they want though. The European Commission did find wrongdoing and a number of bodies were fined. This was overturned by the European General Court 3 years later. So yes, the European Commission investigated and found wrongdoing by their standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGlynn The Money Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tazio said: The European Commission did find wrongdoing and a number of bodies were fined. This was overturned by the European General Court 3 years later. So yes, the European Commission investigated and found wrongdoing by their standards. Splitting hairs now. The fact is, the whole state aid thing is a myth. Even if it were true, the amounts are peanuts compared to the funds being poured into the game now by seriously questionable regimes. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Athletic Bilbao are all fan owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 06:43, ri Alban said: Real Madrid You must be psychic. Ramos and co having a right good laugh tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Tuesday 27th October 2020 Lokomotiv Moscow v Bayern Munich Shakhtar Donetsk v Inter Milan Atletico Madrid v RB Salzburg Borussia Monchengladbach v Real Madrid Marseille v Manchester City Atalanta v Ajax Liverpool v FC Midtjylland FC Porto v Olympiakos I’m hoping for wins for Inter, Atletico, Real, Marseille and Liverpool tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Bayern and City games for me tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 What a goal by Bayern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Like shooting fish in a barrel for j kimmich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Como diría el gran Santiago Bernabéu: "La camiseta del Real Madrid es blanca. Se puede manchar de barro, sudor y hasta sangre, pero jamás de vergüenza". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: Como diría el gran Santiago Bernabéu: "La camiseta del Real Madrid es blanca. Se puede manchar de barro, sudor y hasta sangre, pero jamás de vergüenza". Mud, sweat and blood. Never shame. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Mud, sweat and blood. Never shame. 👍 Great quote! Almost as good as "Blood doesn't show on a maroon jersey.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: Great quote! Almost as good as "Blood doesn't show on a maroon jersey.". Love it too, GG. John Cumming. Edited October 27, 2020 by Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Morgan said: Love it too, GG. John Cumming. A true legend and a really good man off the pitch too by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 More trouble at Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Wednesday 28th October 2020 FK Krasnodar v Chelsea Sevilla v Rennes Borussia Dortmund v Zenit St Petersburg Club Bruges v Lazio Ferencvaros v Dinamo Kiev Juventus v Barcelona Istanbul Basaksehir v PSG Manchester United v RB Leipzig I’ll be happy with defeats for Chelsea, PSG and Barcelona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I hope cavani starts tonight. He didn't get enough game time versus Chelsea to show his qualities. Except that near goal with his first touch, was quality. I would like to see more crosses into him rather than pass it around for ten minutes. Should be an exciting match, looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Chelsea miss penalty ..still 0-0 and again that stupid hop step before striking the ball..thats 2 in a row he has missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Chelsea miss penalty ..still 0-0 and again that stupid hop step before striking the ball..thats 2 in a row he has missed Top dive by Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Oh dear keeper blunder and 1-0 Chelsea PS Krasnodar really have some of the best facilities in the world re stadium, traing ground etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 That Juve top is honking. Looks like pajamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Man Utd playing quite well. Goal looked offside but given by VAR. Leipzig have lifted it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Brilliant goal by Rashford. Given offside but just started run in own half. VAR 2 Leipzig 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 3-0 Rashford. Just on pitch for 15 minutes. Edited October 28, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 VAR works and Manchester United lead 2-0 after linesperson flagged for offside when he was in his own half at the time of the pass being made to allow him to run through and he of course played to the whistle....though I thought they were not supposed to flag Edit another goal and 3-0 Rashford again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) United through Rashford on fire. 4-0. And Cavani nearly 5-0 but offside Edited October 28, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Rashford hatrick 5-0 Came on at 63 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 The Barcelona kid Pedri that played tonight looks like he has a bright future, 17 years old and strolled a champions league game against Juventus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Mostly a disciplined often just gutsy basic performance by Man Utd. Against a good side. Until Marcus Rashford came on helped by other subs Fernandes and McTominay as well as Martial. Edited October 28, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Man Utd in trouble 2-0 Edit- 2-1 Edited November 4, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Man Utd in trouble 2-0 Getting stuffed by one of the worst euro teams. It is all about the pace up front for united though ☺ Goal utd as I was typing. Looked easy, martial header 😲 cavani would have a field day in their box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: Getting stuffed by one of the worst euro teams. It is all about the pace up front for united though ☺ Goal utd as I was typing. Looked easy, martial header 😲 cavani would have a field day in their box. I didn't realise Celtic were still represented in the Champions League. Bolingoli playing on loan for Istanbul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It's a laugh that, getting chucked into the champ league by a europa league outfit. Absolutely fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Cavani a diving cheat, oh the shame of it. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Choice of games for 8pm http://www.hesgoal.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 As it stands Manchester United are so slow in the build up and when you compare them with Liverpool or Manchester City appear to be miles behind. You just wonder how from time to time they produce good performances and yet tonight just bang average The mental attitude of the side needs to be called into question because they have played some matches indicating they are not as bad as they appear to be. Ole needs to be given the backing in order to succeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Solskjaer still frauding his way along I see. God knows how he convinces himself that he’s deserving of this job. Be lucky to get a job in League Two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, CJGJ said: As it stands Manchester United are so slow in the build up and when you compare them with Liverpool or Manchester City appear to be miles behind. You just wonder how from time to time they produce good performances and yet tonight just bang average The mental attitude of the side needs to be called into question because they have played some matches indicating they are not as bad as they appear to be. Ole needs to be given the backing in order to succeed He’s had backing. He’s got players. It’s just that every time Utd lose, he talks about needing transfer windows and the media machine kicks into gear to support him. I’m not defending the Glazers but alongside the issue of recruitment (rather than actual spending because Solskjaer has spent) is the total absence of any skilful coaching. Solskjaer’s only tactic is counter attacking because that relies on very little attacking wit on the part of a coach. Quick players with natural ability will do damage. But Solskjaer could never do what Bielsa, for example, has done at Leeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: He’s had backing. He’s got players. It’s just that every time Utd lose, he talks about needing transfer windows and the media machine kicks into gear to support him. I’m not defending the Glazers but alongside the issue of recruitment (rather than actual spending because Solskjaer has spent) is the total absence of any skilful coaching. Solskjaer’s only tactic is counter attacking because that relies on very little attacking wit on the part of a coach. Quick players with natural ability will do damage. But Solskjaer could never do what Bielsa, for example, has done at Leeds. He deserves more time to put his plans into action...clubs are too quick to sack managers Off the line in the last minute of injury time and United fail to equalise Edited November 4, 2020 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: He deserves more time to put his plans into action...clubs are too quick to sack managers Off the line in the last minute of injury time and United fail to equalise Only chance they created in second half. Wonder what they do in training because as you say it's slow and lacking any danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Heading for the sack is ole. Poor defending on the first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Only chance they created in second half. Wonder what they do in training because as you say it's slow and lacking any danger. Practice makes perfect and maybe that's how they train To be honest Sancho would not be nearly enough to make a huge change to that side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, CJGJ said: He deserves more time to put his plans into action...clubs are too quick to sack managers Off the line in the last minute of injury time and United fail to equalise True but they’ve appointed the wrong one here. He’s a tactical void. I mean what I said about League Two - he’d never cope. He can’t set up a team or react on his toes and he’d have no Fernandez etc to bail him out. Utd are wasting time with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 24/10/2020 at 18:22, Stephane Grappelli said: You must be psychic. Ramos and co having a right good laugh tonight. Ramos again, this week! The best defender ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 WHAT A JOKE..SENT OFF FOR HAND BALL WHICH DEFLECTED OFF HIS LEG and Chelsea lead 2-0 Two penalties, same player but what a joke even after going to the screen the referee not only gives a penalty which is bad enough but books the player for the second time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: WHAT A JOKE..SENT OFF FOR HAND BALL WHICH DEFLECTED OFF HIS LEG and Chelsea lead 2-0 Two penalties, same player but what a joke even after going to the screen the referee not only gives a penalty which is bad enough but books the player for the second time I cannot believe the ref there. That's an horrendous decision. None of the pundits even seemed to mention the deflection either. Sadly its not even that shocking now. Another VARce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Save our Ole.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Morgan said: Ramos again, this week! The best defender ever? I'm not in any way biased, but yes. So important in defence and attack. He'll be a huge miss when he colgas las botas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: I'm not in any way biased, but yes. So important in defence and attack. He'll be a huge miss when he colgas las botas. Not biased! Jokes apart, I think he is a tremendous player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Morgan said: Not biased! Jokes apart, I think he is a tremendous player. Me too, a great leader as well. Also has a reputation for being dirty and a hothead etc but well over 100 games for Spain but no records with them. Only when he's in the white shirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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