Nookie Bear Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: As far as I’m aware Robbie didn’t say it. it’s a simple fact, you can’t run in behind if there is no room to run in behind.. im sure you aren’t suggesting we should have sat in in order to create such space.. We can’t but we can move the ball quicker and get an opposition player to commit themselves or lose concentration. Sometimes even let them have the ball...then get it off them and move forward quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said: We can’t but we can move the ball quicker and get an opposition player to commit themselves or lose concentration. Sometimes even let them have the ball...then get it off them and move forward quickly. agree, speed of thought, clever runs, physicality to suck people in, overloading positions and having a threat from outside the box. Simply being able to run fast isn’t that important in a game such as Saturdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: agree, speed of thought, clever runs, physicality to suck people in, overloading positions and having a threat from outside the box. Simply being able to run fast isn’t that important in a game such as Saturdays. Gary Locke said cowdenbeath would tire but it never really happened. Will we be physically fitter than the part time opponents in the league?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) For me the value of real pace is threefold. 1. When we are defending we can break quickly and really punish a team late leaves space (I don’t think we will have as much chance for this benefit this season as teams will sit in) 2. Winning penalties and free kicks around the box, this can be a huge plus point if we have a good penalty taker and free kick taker 3. Genuine pace terrifies defenders so they will double up meaning more space elsewhere. That means if we are smart and can move the ball quickly we should be able to exploit this. I am not sure many will have seen it but for those that did Tariq Lamptey’s performance for Brighton against Newcastle recently is a prime example of how raw pace can destroy a team. Edited October 12, 2020 by Brighton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The American Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 No good without Hale, but still crap anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: No not at all.. but this thread is about pace, and whats the point of pace specifically Pace doesn’t really help you break lines of a packed defence.. you can’t run in behind using pace when there is literally no space in behind. to break down packed defences there are far more important qualities than pace Pace is everything over short distances. No space behind? 🤔 That's not true though because the offside rule means a team is going to have to hold some kind of line. The deepest they will drop will be on the edge of their 18 yard box, that means there is at least 17 yards of space, in behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: Gary Locke said cowdenbeath would tire but it never really happened. Will we be physically fitter than the part time opponents in the league?? If we are not then questions do need to be asked. I thought we did look fitter than Cowdenbeath in the latter stages but not by enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruyff said: Pace is everything over short distances. No space behind? 🤔 That's not true though because the offside rule means a team is going to have to hold some kind of line. The deepest they will drop will be on the edge of their 18 yard box, that means there is at least 17 yards of space, in behind. There is so much wrong with that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, kingantti1874 said: There is so much wrong with that post. No space behind... But Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 We at least have *some* pace in the team now. It was criminal how we'd been crying out for width and pace all season and Stendel didn't address it in January. The folk saying there's no space against teams playing like Cowdenbeath are right. Almost all the players are jammed between the 18 yard line and centre of the pitch. The alternative to patient build up and passing around teams (tricky when we don't have genuine flair in the team) is hoofing it over the top but when a team sits so deep like Cowdenbeath did that's never going to work. "Blue Brazil" my arse. I still wish we'd kept Uche for the Championship for exactly these games, but maybe it was out of our hands. He would take at least two defenders with him which can create a bit of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Cruyff said: See when the opposition players chase the guy that's got the ball? that bits called pressing. Something Cowdenbeath didn't really do, certainly not in our half. They just sat back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Something Cowdenbeath didn't really do, certainly not in our half. They just sat back. They didnt need to press us in our half. Most teams will happily let us have the ball in our half, the problem was the slow paced side to side passing and lack of penetrating movement going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 17:02, kingantti1874 said: when we play teams who don’t sit in!! .. in the two games we’ve played there has not been any space in behind. The only thing behind the full backs was a brick wall and a main road.. When we play better teams let’s see no coincidence that our best results at the end of last season were v the rangers and hibs - both teams wanting to try win the game v us. Those teams will leave gaps for us to exploit as they're focusing on attack. just had a v quick squizz at our 14/15 season in the championship and around half our games finished with no more than a 2 goal difference in our favour. (we of course had the mad 10-0 result.....plus some 4-0 and 5-1 type results). seems as though those exceptional results are more to the forefront of some folks minds - hence the higher expectations. I'll just see how things pan out over the next few games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 21:50, Nookie Bear said: Most players at our level are quick, but it’s pace of thought that counts. Anticipating quickly, reacting quickly, seeing danger and opportunities quickly and receiving and moving the ball quickly because you know what you want to do with it. Spot on. The only players with that ability are Smith and Naisy. Agree also with Russ1977. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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