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As someone who loves cars, although doesn’t know much about the mechanics etc, I’ve recently been seeing more and more of these cars on the road. Googled them and watched videos on their performance and specifications and was astounded. Outstripping Lamborghinis and the like made my jaw drop. 
does anyone own or know of people who do own one of these?

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Loads of them around Berkshire.

 

Thing to remember about electric cars is that their performance drops when the battery begins to drain. Don't think you can drive around in "Ludicrous mode" for too long.

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1 hour ago, Muppetboy said:

As someone who loves cars, although doesn’t know much about the mechanics etc, I’ve recently been seeing more and more of these cars on the road. Googled them and watched videos on their performance and specifications and was astounded. Outstripping Lamborghinis and the like made my jaw drop. 
does anyone own or know of people who do own one of these?

My neighbour has one. Looks very sleek and classy. 

 

When I was last at Multrees Walk, they had a 'showroom' based there. Is it still there? 

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1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Nearly 60 grand for a car you would expect it to have have shit hot specs tbf

60000, i would never sleep at night with that in the driveway.

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2 hours ago, Muppetboy said:

As someone who loves cars, although doesn’t know much about the mechanics etc, I’ve recently been seeing more and more of these cars on the road. Googled them and watched videos on their performance and specifications and was astounded. Outstripping Lamborghinis and the like made my jaw drop. 
does anyone own or know of people who do own one of these?

 

Yes you are right to highlight their performance, they have built some performance versions but even their normal cars have a lot of power because the electric motor just outputs speed and torque immediately. A lot of pure electric cars made by other manufacturers are similar. 

 

That aside - i think they are great, the Model S has been around a while and has had a facelift a couple of years ago. They reckon it's next to have some sort of major upgrade after 8yrs of production - but has to be said it looks great. 

 

 

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Tesla's are very much at the top end performance, spec and therefore cost wise of electric cars. 

 

I'm in the market for an electric car that can do 200miles on a single charge and sadly (from a wallet perspective) that puts me into Tesla territory. I'm waiting out for the ID3 to come out from VW which might tick most of my boxes including the wallet one. 

 

Sat in but not yet driven a Tesla. Granted it was a top spec at a weekend car and coffee event but it was slick as can be. Know someone who took one for a spin under the fake pretence of buying and he was blown away by the performance. 

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Been driving a BMW i3 for three years. It's a good first electric car. Mid price and mid performance. Was looking at upgrading to a longer range model and as cuthy2k says, Telsa territory. Instead I  was going to go for the Jag ipace, which has had great reviews but covid kicked in and my income is somewhat cabbaged for now. I use business contract hire so I have extended my i3 for another 2 years.

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On the car wow range test they got 255 miles from the Kia, 2nd only to the Tesla long range model. But I guess if your spending a whack of cash you don’t want to be driving a Kia

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6 hours ago, Muppetboy said:

As someone who loves cars, although doesn’t know much about the mechanics etc, I’ve recently been seeing more and more of these cars on the road. Googled them and watched videos on their performance and specifications and was astounded. Outstripping Lamborghinis and the like made my jaw drop. 
does anyone own or know of people who do own one of these?

I've a couple of mates who have/had the S model. One of them had switched from a V12 AMG Merc and preferred the Tesla by a mile. T

 

The other had problems with his and Tesla gave him an X model while his was in being repaired. He had it for a couple of months and I had a couple of rides in it. It was mighty impressive. Very comfortable and like sugar off a shovel when he popped the foot down. Not sure all the tech in the dashboard was entirely necessary. Shortly after he got his S back, it was stolen from his drive. Someone had managed to clone the gizmo on his iPhone that makes the thing work and simply opened it and drove it away at night. He replaced it with a Disco and that got taken too. 

 

Apart from seeming to be a target for easy theft, the difficulty is the range. The mate without the car is a fellow Scot and said the car's great on the motorway if he's going to Oxford and back from London but when he wants to get back up to his rellies, it's a pain to have to watch the battery drain and hope he gets to a charging point in enough time. 

 

Another pal has the small one. Again, a great car for short journeys but he says that the claims about mileage range are 'optimistic'. 

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8 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

I've a couple of mates who have/had the S model. One of them had switched from a V12 AMG Merc and preferred the Tesla by a mile. T

 

The other had problems with his and Tesla gave him an X model while his was in being repaired. He had it for a couple of months and I had a couple of rides in it. It was mighty impressive. Very comfortable and like sugar off a shovel when he popped the foot down. Not sure all the tech in the dashboard was entirely necessary. Shortly after he got his S back, it was stolen from his drive. Someone had managed to clone the gizmo on his iPhone that makes the thing work and simply opened it and drove it away at night. He replaced it with a Disco and that got taken too. 

 

Apart from seeming to be a target for easy theft, the difficulty is the range. The mate without the car is a fellow Scot and said the car's great on the motorway if he's going to Oxford and back from London but when he wants to get back up to his rellies, it's a pain to have to watch the battery drain and hope he gets to a charging point in enough time. 

 

Another pal has the small one. Again, a great car for short journeys but he says that the claims about mileage range are 'optimistic'. 

Mind an American coming in to my shell garage with a rented battery powered car, where do i plug this in 

my friend, not in here my friend, did the rental company not give you locations for charging, no , 😕did find out that the drumbrae library and leisure centre has them.

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Dennis Reynolds

I would love a Tesla in the future. Sadly I don't think hanging an extension cord from my top floor flat to charge it over night would be very good! I can but dream though! 

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1 hour ago, LMc said:

I would love a Tesla in the future. Sadly I don't think hanging an extension cord from my top floor flat to charge it over night would be very good! I can but dream though! 

The guy round the corner from me with the small one (Model 3?) never seems to have it on charge. He parks it in my road, about 30m from his front door; I've never seen it parked outside his house, which is a main bus route. I imagine he's wary about parking there since the time he went out to find that his guest's car had been shunted through his last car's front screen by a drunk driver. 

 

I reckon he must make trips to a charging point, plug it in and wander off to the gents with a scud mag for a while.

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A couple of my neighbours have them. One poor guy's had an alarm fault a few weeks back and he was having to reset it every 15 minutes all day.

 

Some of them look a bit clunky but some are nice looking.

 

I would be quite happy to go electric, but only once the infrastructure is properly in place.

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4 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

The guy round the corner from me with the small one (Model 3?) never seems to have it on charge. He parks it in my road, about 30m from his front door; I've never seen it parked outside his house, which is a main bus route. I imagine he's wary about parking there since the time he went out to find that his guest's car had been shunted through his last car's front screen by a drunk driver. 

 

I reckon he must make trips to a charging point, plug it in and wander off to the gents with a scud mag for a while.

I live in a block of flats and my neighbour's don't charge there's here. Must take it to the supercharger at the airport or something.

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Would love to go full electric. A Tesla would be brilliant. 
I think my arse would fall out about the range anxiety though. I drove to Peterhead & back today. Not sure an electric car would be able to do that on 1 charge. 

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3 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Would love to go full electric. A Tesla would be brilliant. 
I think my arse would fall out about the range anxiety though. I drove to Peterhead & back today. Not sure an electric car would be able to do that on 1 charge. 

 

No need on one charge. Stayed at Aviemore McDonald hotel recently, there was a bank of 10 re-charging points on the hotel grounds, no less than 6 Tesla taxis being charged at any given...juice points will be as accessible as hand sanitiser stations shortly...:thumbsup:

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11 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Would love to go full electric. A Tesla would be brilliant. 
I think my arse would fall out about the range anxiety though. I drove to Peterhead & back today. Not sure an electric car would be able to do that on 1 charge. 

It would be a bit of a push on a single charge but a planned stop and half an hour on a supercharger woukd easily see it through. 

 

I'm sure Nissan tried to address range anxiety a few years ago by offering Leaf owners 12 free car hires per year to cover longer journeys.

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Just now, OBE said:

 

No need on one charge. Stayed at Aviemore McDonald hotel recently, there was a bank of 10 re-charging points on the hotel grounds, no less than 6 Tesla taxis being charged at any given...juice points will be as accessible as hand sanitiser stations shortly...:thumbsup:

I think your right but the infrastructure just isnt there yet. I know theres load of charging points but instead of seeing 4 at one location. We need to see 50. If we really ramp up on buying PHEV’s and electric cars theres nowhere near enough. Maybe in another 5 -10 years. 

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1 minute ago, IronJambo said:

It would be a bit of a push on a single charge but a planned stop and half an hour on a supercharger woukd easily see it through. 

 

I'm sure Nissan tried to address range anxiety a few years ago by offering Leaf owners 12 free car hires per year to cover longer journeys.

If the factory I visited had charging points then I suppose I would have been sorted (theoretically).

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3 minutes ago, OBE said:

 

No need on one charge. Stayed at Aviemore McDonald hotel recently, there was a bank of 10 re-charging points on the hotel grounds, no less than 6 Tesla taxis being charged at any given...juice points will be as accessible as hand sanitiser stations shortly...:thumbsup:

It'll improve but there's no real plan and no real direction. The governments just letting councils get on with it in their own way. There's a London borough exploring harnessing the power from lampposts. I think that means they're looking at taking the power that feeds the street lights and feeding it to a charging station. Where does the charging station go? Right on the edge of the pavement? It's a trip hazard if not surely? How many pavements can actually accommodate this and leave enough room for wheelchairs and buggies to pass? The town I live in has cars parked all over the pavements and on street charging points would just make things worse.

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Saw an all black Jag i-pace the other day.  :wow:

 

Didn't actually realise it was an electric car; it was the shape/look that caught my eye.

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10 hours ago, Harry Potter said:

60000, i would never sleep at night with that in the driveway.

 

Has an impressive alarm system, as we found out when sniffing around a bosses new Tesla in our car park. Alerted him via his phone and started filming us.

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55 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

I live in a block of flats and my neighbour's don't charge there's here. Must take it to the supercharger at the airport or something.

Stash of porny mags and a cappuccino. Better than sticking a hose in the side of the car for a minute. 

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14 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

Stash of porny mags and a cappuccino. Better than sticking a hose in the side of the car for a minute. 

 

Depends on the car that's being penetrated.

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Dr. Sheldon Cooper

A mate of a mate has one, some sort of S model I think. Cracking looking car and the joy on his face every time he spoke about it told you all you need to know.  He said it feels like he is flying a plane when he drives it.

 

He said the range is something like 247 miles. When I met him he had driven from Milton Keynes to Larbert which should be around a 6 hour journey, but it took him 8 and a half as people kept trying to race him coming up the motorway and he had to charge his car 3 times on the way up, so the range is definitely variable!

 

He was staying with my mate for the weekend and the day I met him the car was charging the whole time at the house. The electricity bill for the house tripled during the time he was there.

 

A few issues no doubt but great to look at and the technology is unbelievable.

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11 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

 

Has an impressive alarm system, as we found out when sniffing around a bosses new Tesla in our car park. Alerted him via his phone and started filming us.

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There was a guy in Colinton who must have worked for them because he had a different one outside his house every time I went there. 
 

 I’m fairly sure they came out worse in the unreliability tables. 

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18 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

The guy round the corner from me with the small one (Model 3?) never seems to have it on charge. He parks it in my road, about 30m from his front door; I've never seen it parked outside his house, which is a main bus route. I imagine he's wary about parking there since the time he went out to find that his guest's car had been shunted through his last car's front screen by a drunk driver. 

 

I reckon he must make trips to a charging point, plug it in and wander off to the gents with a scud mag for a while.

 

Either that or quite a few office car parks now have charging points so he might well just charge it there whilst at work.

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23 hours ago, cuthy2k said:

Tesla's are very much at the top end performance, spec and therefore cost wise of electric cars. 

 

I'm in the market for an electric car that can do 200miles on a single charge and sadly (from a wallet perspective) that puts me into Tesla territory. I'm waiting out for the ID3 to come out from VW which might tick most of my boxes including the wallet one. 

 

Sat in but not yet driven a Tesla. Granted it was a top spec at a weekend car and coffee event but it was slick as can be. Know someone who took one for a spin under the fake pretence of buying and he was blown away by the performance. 

 

I'm in exactly the same boat as you. The old Jag is coming to the end of its life, and would dearly love to replace it with a Tesla, but suspect the ID3/4 might be more realistic. I do get the impression they're a bit dull in comparison though.

 

All depends on whether my work actually physically want me back at work any time soon, as working FT I could probably justify the outlay on a Tesla quite easily.

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If manufacturers put their heads together and had a one-design battery that could be switched out at a refuelling station - there goes any range anxiety.

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6 minutes ago, Boof said:

If manufacturers put their heads together and had a one-design battery that could be switched out at a refuelling station - there goes any range anxiety.

Slight problem with that. 
Just think how heavy a normal 12v car battery is, now multiply that my many times. 

 

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1 minute ago, Tazio said:

Slight problem with that. 
Just think how heavy a normal 12v car battery is, now multiply that my many times. 

 

...assumed they'd have the technology to actually do the changing designed in as well...

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Those little Honda e look like a brilliant little car.  Tiny though and the boot is apparently the size of a small lunch box.  Be ideal for in the city but not very practical 

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23 minutes ago, Boof said:

 

...assumed they'd have the technology to actually do the changing designed in as well...

a quick google suggests the bateries in a tesla model 3 weigh a total of around 0.5 tonnes

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Idea since abandoned, I believe, but shows that it's possible. Get some F1 teams involved in the design and I'm pretty sure Bob would be everyone's uncle toute de suite.

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Apology to @Tazio for including a Musk video :lol:
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On 10/09/2020 at 09:44, Muppetboy said:

As someone who loves cars, although doesn’t know much about the mechanics etc, I’ve recently been seeing more and more of these cars on the road. Googled them and watched videos on their performance and specifications and was astounded. Outstripping Lamborghinis and the like made my jaw drop. 
does anyone own or know of people who do own one of these?


Been in my cousins S modelalong the bypass a couple of times, the acceleration is astonishing. 

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1 hour ago, Boof said:

 

Idea since abandoned, I believe, but shows that it's possible. Get some F1 teams involved in the design and I'm pretty sure Bob would be everyone's uncle toute de suite.

 

They just need to upgrade to this ....

 

 

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4 hours ago, Ribble said:

 

Either that or quite a few office car parks now have charging points so he might well just charge it there whilst at work.

Nah. He doesn't take it to the office. Like most Londoners, offices with car parks aren't a thing.

 

I'm convinced he'll take it to their supercharger point at Brent Cross, pop into WH Smith for some gynaecological information literature and, from there to the gents.

 

Who wouldn't?

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2 hours ago, Boof said:

 

 

Idea since abandoned, I believe, but shows that it's possible. Get some F1 teams involved in the design and I'm pretty sure Bob would be everyone's uncle toute de suite.

i do agree batteries that you can swap would be the best solution, but as you said earlier it would require standarisation of batteries across all electric cars

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An advert popped up on my Facebook for a Hyundai Kona Electric. Doesn't sound particularly exciting but it has a near 300 mile rage, over 200bhp, loads of torque and 0-60 in about 7.5 secs. Pretty brisk and it was only around £300 a month...no deposit!

Tempting but then somebody said above that it triples your leccy bill?  🤔 Trying to decide if it would be worth it just now.

Probably not.

 

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2 hours ago, heartsfc_fan said:

An advert popped up on my Facebook for a Hyundai Kona Electric. Doesn't sound particularly exciting but it has a near 300 mile rage, over 200bhp, loads of torque and 0-60 in about 7.5 secs. Pretty brisk and it was only around £300 a month...no deposit!

Tempting but then somebody said above that it triples your leccy bill?  🤔 Trying to decide if it would be worth it just now.

Probably not.

 

I think all the 'mass manufacture' vehicle builders will catch up with Tesla pretty quickly, certainly insofar as range is concerned. It's charging infrastructure (or lack of it) that's the problem, though Norway has a mature policy for transition to EVs. Why is it that the 'Anglo' countries seem to be such laggards when it comes to this?

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