John Findlay Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Peter Lawell and Steven Brown(St J) along with the guys from Alloa and Dunfermline were voted onto the SPFL board to represent the SPL and championship respectively. The Brechin fella stayed in situ. We wonder why Scottish football is in the dark ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Can someone explain the process to me, please? I genuinely don’t know how it works. 1) Who votes the new members on? 2) What percentage of votes does each candidate need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Is Steven Brown, Geoff Brown’s son? Geoff Brown was a sycophantic OF arse licker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Professional Game Board Chair: Michael Mulraney (Scottish FA) Members: Ian Maxwell (Scottish FA), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Leslie Gray (SPFL), Michael Nicholson (SPFL), Ken Ferguson (SPFL), Duncan Fraser (SPFL), Finlay Noble (SHFL) and Tom Brown (SLFL). This is the SFA board that will judge Hearts on their decision to go to court. The game is truly ****ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Can someone explain the process to me, please? I genuinely don’t know how it works. 1) Who votes the new members on? 2) What percentage of votes does each candidate need? I assume its very similar to Golf Club committees. Each position will have a tenure (2 or 3 years). When it is up, the position will need a proposer and seconder, then all teams within the SPFL will vote on each candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Can someone explain the process to me, please? I genuinely don’t know how it works. 1) Who votes the new members on? The clubs do individually at their league level. Rangers and Celtic have turn about at Premiership level. Not in rules but see below. Candidates put themselves forward for a place. 2) What percentage of votes does each candidate need?I No percentages. Each club reviews the candidates who have put themselves forward and ranks 1,2,3. E.g. Championship has 2 places, 3 people put themselves forward, clubs vote 1,2,3, and top (or is it bottom) 2 ranks get in. It appears at Premiership level and 3 places the clubs agree beforehand never to have more than 3 nominations so that Rangers and Celtic aren't at risk of not getting a place in the board. Sound familiar? Quote Edited July 21, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Tommy Brown said: I assume its very similar to Golf Club committees. Each position will have a tenure (2 or 3 years). When it is up, the position will need a proposer and seconder, then all teams within the SPFL will vote on each candidate. If that is correct, then the whole ****ing thing needs torched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, DETTY29 said: That's a ****ing disgrace and AT LEAST as bad as the 11/1 voting structure. This needs ****ing dismantled. Why have our club and others been wilfully accepting this carve up of our game by just two clubs? I’d like to hear our club make a statement on the set up of the game. Never mind anything else. We have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog, and it can never change whilst the governance is structured the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 What a parcel of rogues. Couldn't be more anti-Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby1973 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Is Steven Brown, Geoff Brown’s son? Geoff Brown was a sycophantic OF arse licker. Yes, he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: That's a ****ing disgrace and AT LEAST as bad as the 11/1 voting structure. This needs ****ing dismantled. Why have our club and others been wilfully accepting this carve up of our game by just two clubs? I’d like to hear our club make a statement on the set up of the game. Never mind anything else. We have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog, and it can never change whilst the governance is structured the way it is. Absolutely SOD, let’s not forget that we have colluded with this nonsense for years! We are as culpable as the rest for allowing it to happen year in, year out for decades. My auld man spoke about this being the case during the forties/fifties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: That's a ****ing disgrace and AT LEAST as bad as the 11/1 voting structure. This needs ****ing dismantled. Why have our club and others been wilfully accepting this carve up of our game by just two clubs? I’d like to hear our club make a statement on the set up of the game. Never mind anything else. We have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog, and it can never change whilst the governance is structured the way it is. Ann Budge lasted a yeat before she was voted off for calling out the very things that we are all concerned about. e.g self-interest and not greater good. In fairness she may not have helped by calling out something that everyone again knows that there are far too many clubs in the professional game in Scotland. Not just at Hearts, but across many clubs but until their own club is seriously impacted, fans of other clubs just take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: In fairness she may not have helped by calling out something that everyone again knows that there are far too many clubs in the professional game in Scotland. It’s amazing how many people miss out the highlighted word, when attempting to use her words against her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Our problem is we are not in a cabal. Most of the other teams probably are. One member will represent his own club and other "friends". Ann is too honest to be in such a corrupt arrangement. She did serve 1 term on the board. I would love to know why she didn't wish to be re-elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Sorry if I have missed this, but has there been any decision made or published, regarding the granting of executive power to determine any action following cancellation of the 20/21 season. If the vote was for the resolution it would be this board who would take any decision regarding promotion, relegation, champioship etc. What a truly frightening thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebroon98 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Alloa represented on both SPFL and SFA, this just shows how backward we are as a football nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: Professional Game Board Chair: Michael Mulraney (Scottish FA) Members: Ian Maxwell (Scottish FA), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Leslie Gray (SPFL), Michael Nicholson (SPFL), Ken Ferguson (SPFL), Duncan Fraser (SPFL), Finlay Noble (SHFL) and Tom Brown (SLFL). This is the SFA board that will judge Hearts on their decision to go to court. The game is truly ****ed. Finlay Noble and Tom Brown to do the right thing, please. Les Gray could go either way because he knows Hearts (and PT) only did what any club would have done. Duncan Fraser is standing down. Presumably his replacement will have the mandate to seal the deal for the SFA over us and Partick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, true-jambo said: Sorry if I have missed this, but has there been any decision made or published, regarding the granting of executive power to determine any action following cancellation of the 20/21 season. If the vote was for the resolution it would be this board who would take any decision regarding promotion, relegation, champioship etc. What a truly frightening thought! Motion set to fail according to Scotsman. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/signs-distrust-already-new-spfl-board-elected-2919212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambosdad Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 We have been set up here. The issue of the letters to us and PT last week are an exercise in a...covering. If SPFL are proved wrong then this mob can ensure status quo. Yes Hearts and PT won the arbitration but they went against SFA rules so both will be demoted one league as a punishment. SFA will say this is a lenient penalty but was required. Job done, Doncaster and colleagues get their way by hook or by crook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJ Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, AndrewB said: Motion set to fail according to Scotsman. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/signs-distrust-already-new-spfl-board-elected-2919212 Good. They can't sneak things through without a full vote and I'd hope most teams want full disclosure of facts before future votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 McLennans patronising statement - he can feck right off - knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, jambosdad said: We have been set up here. The issue of the letters to us and PT last week are an exercise in a...covering. If SPFL are proved wrong then this mob can ensure status quo. Yes Hearts and PT won the arbitration but they went against SFA rules so both will be demoted one league as a punishment. SFA will say this is a lenient penalty but was required. Job done, Doncaster and colleagues get their way by hook or by crook. I don't think that demotion is a disciplinary option available to the SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, DETTY29 said: Ann Budge lasted a yeat before she was voted off for calling out the very things that we are all concerned about. e.g self-interest and not greater good. In fairness she may not have helped by calling out something that everyone again knows that there are far too many clubs in the professional game in Scotland. Not just at Hearts, but across many clubs but until their own club is seriously impacted, fans of other clubs just take it. See if your club cannot afford to travel to an away game and that fact influences your vote on major decisions...you’re not a professional club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts Fridge Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, colinmaroon said: What a parcel of rogues. Couldn't be more anti-Hearts. Rest of the SPFL as usual have been, bought and sold for bigot gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Did anybody expect anything different ? Scottish football isn't going to change its spots .to many comfy old boys enjoying the little slice of cake celtic give them. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: See if your club cannot afford to travel to an away game and that fact influences your vote on major decisions...you’re not a professional club. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Scottish football: Run by the old firm, for the old firm: nothing will change 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 They're so proud of themselves though. "Look at us, we are the big knobs in Scottish Football" Dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AndrewB said: Motion set to fail according to Scotsman. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/signs-distrust-already-new-spfl-board-elected-2919212 Thanks for this👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Signs of distrust already as new SPFL board elected Motion to hand governing body full authority over Covid crisis destined to fail A new SPFL board has been confirmed for the forthcoming season but it is unlikely it will be handed the authority to curtail the new campaign in the event of a Covid-19 flare-up. Peter Lawwell, the Celtic chief executive, was inducted on to the SPFL board as expected along with Steve Brown, the St Johnstone chairman, at an agm yesterday held by video conference. They join Les Gray, the vice-chairman of Hamilton Accies, as Premiership representatives with Dunfermline Athletic’s Ross McArthur and Ewen Cameron of Ayr United representing the Championship. Inverness chairman Ross Morrison failed in his bid to be appointed to the board after gaining only two votes. Leagues One and Two will be represented by Brechin City’s Ken Ferguson, who retains his place on the board, and Gordon Thomson of Clyde. They all have the onerous task of steering Scottish football through its re-start programme following the impact of the pandemic on last season’s campaign. However, with the deadline for voting on handing the SPFL board power to act on all issues related to Covid-19 falling at midnight last night, the result looks set to reflect continued distrust of the board – whoever it consists of. A statement confirming the resolution has failed is expected today. The bid to give the board this authority for one season only was to avoid “the division and rancour” that has scarred Scottish football since a controversial vote by clubs to curtail the season took place in April. Dundee’s decision to change their vote after it was held up in the SPFL’s quarantine system triggered an on-going dispute involving relegated and promoted clubs. SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster, inset, admitted in a letter to clubs last month that “it remains entirely feasible that season 2020/21 may be disrupted by a second wave or further spikes in the occurrence of cases of Covid-19”. He admitted the current SPFL rules “do not adequately cover the situation where a season has to be curtailed, with a number of games remaining to be played”. Hearts and Partick Thistle are currently involved in an arbitration panel hearing as they continue their bid to have their relegations overturned. The case was referred to arbitration following a Court of Session hearing earlier this month. “Too many clubs are hesitant about giving the board power – there is a lot of distrust given all that’s happened,” said Iain McMenemy, chairman of League Two side Stenhousemuir. “You add in the fact that they didn’t know the identity of the board until the actual deadline day. Others, like myself, do not believe giving the board extra power would solve anything or eradicate the rancour. We need to define now what the conditions would be to end the league, not just pass the buck. “Most of the people I have spoken to were of the same view – that the resolution would not get sufficient support across all the divisions.” A 75 per cent majority is required from three different sections: the Premiership; the Championship; and a combined Leagues One and Two vote. Clubs were sent a reminder last week to submit their voting slips by Monday 20 July if they agreed with the resolution. If they did not agree, they did not have to do anything. The new top-flight season is due to start a week on Saturday with the three other leagues set to kick-off on 17 October. Yesterday’s SPFL agm also confirmed the dates for the Betfred Cup competition with all 42 clubs having agreed to take part. Participation was not compulsory due to the financial constraints resulting from clubs having lost significant income due to the shutdown. Highland League champions Brora Rangers and Lowland League winners Kelty Hearts will be asked if they wish to take part after being denied the chance to play-off for a place in League One. The competition will retain its groups format in the opening round before proceeding to a second round, quarter-final, semi-final and final, which will be held next year on 28 February. The group section is scheduled to begin on 6 October. “Our game is facing a series of challenges unlike anything it has ever experienced, and everyone involved in Scottish football is working tirelessly to restart matches soon,” said chairman Murdoch MacLennan. “The SPFL directors have a key role to play in navigating those challenges and I’m pleased to welcome them on board for what promises to be a unique season ahead. “Thanks to the dedication of thousands of people involved in our game, we are within touching distance of matches being resumed. It’s vital that we maintain that vigilance and discipline as we move towards a greater semblance of normality for our teams and for the supporters up and down the country who form the backbone of our sport.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Weebroon98 said: Alloa represented on both SPFL and SFA, this just shows how backward we are as a football nation. Aye just look at the national team, joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Portable Badger said: Signs of distrust already as new SPFL board elected Motion to hand governing body full authority over Covid crisis destined to fail A new SPFL board has been confirmed for the forthcoming season but it is unlikely it will be handed the authority to curtail the new campaign in the event of a Covid-19 flare-up. Peter Lawwell, the Celtic chief executive, was inducted on to the SPFL board as expected along with Steve Brown, the St Johnstone chairman, at an agm yesterday held by video conference. They join Les Gray, the vice-chairman of Hamilton Accies, as Premiership representatives with Dunfermline Athletic’s Ross McArthur and Ewen Cameron of Ayr United representing the Championship. Inverness chairman Ross Morrison failed in his bid to be appointed to the board after gaining only two votes. Leagues One and Two will be represented by Brechin City’s Ken Ferguson, who retains his place on the board, and Gordon Thomson of Clyde. They all have the onerous task of steering Scottish football through its re-start programme following the impact of the pandemic on last season’s campaign. However, with the deadline for voting on handing the SPFL board power to act on all issues related to Covid-19 falling at midnight last night, the result looks set to reflect continued distrust of the board – whoever it consists of. A statement confirming the resolution has failed is expected today. The bid to give the board this authority for one season only was to avoid “the division and rancour” that has scarred Scottish football since a controversial vote by clubs to curtail the season took place in April. Dundee’s decision to change their vote after it was held up in the SPFL’s quarantine system triggered an on-going dispute involving relegated and promoted clubs. SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster, inset, admitted in a letter to clubs last month that “it remains entirely feasible that season 2020/21 may be disrupted by a second wave or further spikes in the occurrence of cases of Covid-19”. He admitted the current SPFL rules “do not adequately cover the situation where a season has to be curtailed, with a number of games remaining to be played”. Hearts and Partick Thistle are currently involved in an arbitration panel hearing as they continue their bid to have their relegations overturned. The case was referred to arbitration following a Court of Session hearing earlier this month. “Too many clubs are hesitant about giving the board power – there is a lot of distrust given all that’s happened,” said Iain McMenemy, chairman of League Two side Stenhousemuir. “You add in the fact that they didn’t know the identity of the board until the actual deadline day. Others, like myself, do not believe giving the board extra power would solve anything or eradicate the rancour. We need to define now what the conditions would be to end the league, not just pass the buck. “Most of the people I have spoken to were of the same view – that the resolution would not get sufficient support across all the divisions.” A 75 per cent majority is required from three different sections: the Premiership; the Championship; and a combined Leagues One and Two vote. Clubs were sent a reminder last week to submit their voting slips by Monday 20 July if they agreed with the resolution. If they did not agree, they did not have to do anything. The new top-flight season is due to start a week on Saturday with the three other leagues set to kick-off on 17 October. Yesterday’s SPFL agm also confirmed the dates for the Betfred Cup competition with all 42 clubs having agreed to take part. Participation was not compulsory due to the financial constraints resulting from clubs having lost significant income due to the shutdown. Highland League champions Brora Rangers and Lowland League winners Kelty Hearts will be asked if they wish to take part after being denied the chance to play-off for a place in League One. The competition will retain its groups format in the opening round before proceeding to a second round, quarter-final, semi-final and final, which will be held next year on 28 February. The group section is scheduled to begin on 6 October. “Our game is facing a series of challenges unlike anything it has ever experienced, and everyone involved in Scottish football is working tirelessly to restart matches soon,” said chairman Murdoch MacLennan. “The SPFL directors have a key role to play in navigating those challenges and I’m pleased to welcome them on board for what promises to be a unique season ahead. “Thanks to the dedication of thousands of people involved in our game, we are within touching distance of matches being resumed. It’s vital that we maintain that vigilance and discipline as we move towards a greater semblance of normality for our teams and for the supporters up and down the country who form the backbone of our sport.” Be nice for McLennan and Doncaster to have their boss there beside them in an official capacity. Get their orders direct, instead of behind the scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 12 hours ago, colinmaroon said: What a parcel of rogues. Couldn't be more anti-Hearts. Pure GREEN thats what they are !!!!! We've nae f.....g chance ! Hope I'm wrong here but this looks as bent as an arabs dagger ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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