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SectionFJambo

Neither move particularly impressive.

 

Harry understandable given he hasn't delivered at the higher level however Harry would concern me we couldn't find a league club to take him.

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3 minutes ago, SectionFJambo said:

Neither move particularly impressive.

 

Harry understandable given he hasn't delivered at the higher level however Harry would concern me we couldn't find a league club to take him.

 

It doesn't help when they're both called Harry eh? :D

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1 hour ago, Dayman said:

If hes on the bench at Spartans at the age of 18/19 we should release him. 

 

5 minutes ago, SectionFJambo said:

Neither move particularly impressive.

 

Harry understandable given he hasn't delivered at the higher level however Harry would concern me we couldn't find a league club to take him.


If Harry S is on the bench at Spartans it would show that the loan is misconceived not that we should release him. 
 

I think both of these posts underestimate the importance of experience for a GK and the difficulty of persuading another manager that they should go with a youngster with promise over an experienced keeper. 

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1 hour ago, Gone said:

Don't think Cochrane is gonna make it if that's the level he's at now

 

 

(For both 'Arrys  :arry:  )

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7 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

 

(For both 'Arrys  :arry:  )

I would be going for a drink if i was farmed out to a lower level , probably end up asking for a transfer in a drunken phone call to the club.

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Just now, Gorgie Boot boy said:

I would be going for a drink if i was farmed out to a lower level , probably end up asking for a transfer in a drunken phone call to the club.

 

It'd probably be granted!

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Footballfirst

Harry Stone will be replacing another ex Hearts youth keeper, Blair Carswell, if he goes straight into their starting eleven at Spartans.

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There are reports of Brentford interest – but Hearts starlet Harry Cochrane will ply his trade at Montrose for now.

 

The 19-year-old has signed a short-term loan agreement with the League One side as the Jambos look to get more senior experience into his legs.

 

It comes after reports that Brentford are keeping close watch of the youngster’s situation at Tynecastle (Scottish Sun). Cochrane’s deal in maroon is set to expire next summer.

Hearts want him to commit his future to Hearts by signing a new deal, warding off potential Brentford interest in the process. So far, the teenager has made 33 senior appearances at Tynecastle.

But injury has hampered his progress in recent seasons, spending time at Dunfermline last term before a recall by then-manager Daniel Stendel. He now drops down to League One for more experience with Montrose.

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Gorgie Boot boy
2 hours ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

It'd probably be granted!

I was a decent player, no way did i go on loan anywhere.

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3 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Harry Stone will be replacing another ex Hearts youth keeper, Blair Carswell, if he goes straight into their starting eleven at Spartans.

 

Blair Carswell is injured (which probably explains why he is off to Spartans.)

 

One thing I would want to know, as he has now played for Stirling and will play for Spartans, that would be the two clubs you are allowed play for in a season. Unless there is special dispensation as it is 1 apperance for Stirling in an emergency loan deal.

 

Also the levels of the clubs dont worry me, the key is they will get regular game time. 

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Montrose aren't a bad choice. He needs competitive games. They also train in Perth which is probably suitable for us and him in the absence of a reserve league. That said, it seems the laddie McGill is ahead of him at the moment. I think Harry has ability, he's show it before but if he doesn't make it, it's clear we'll have other boys coming through that can. 

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I genuinely don’t see what the fuss is over both loan moves.

 

Stone is moving to the Lowland League, which is arguably littered with players who could still play for League 1 / League 2 sides who chose not to play in the seaside likes.

 

During his initial 2 month loan, he will face formidable sides such as Kelty, Bonnyrigg and East Kilbride - who have better strike forces than most League 2 teams.

 

In terms of Cochrane, I think it makes perfect sense for him to go to Montrose, who are in the division directly below us, to get regular game time.
 

Firstly, he’s what 5th or 6th choice centre mid for us at the moment? There’s no point in him getting splinters sitting on the bench or in the stand.

 

There has also been accusations of him having a bit of a ‘Billy big time’ attitude. If that is true, then this loan could act as a wake up call and spur him on. It’s the realisation that he will be playing part time football whereby his pals Billy Gilmour and Aaron Hickey are involved in the first team’s in the EPL and Serie A.

 

A 2 month loan spell whereby both will play aroun0 10 games each and still train under the eyes of the first team coaches at the ages of 18 and 19 sounds ideal for me.

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13 hours ago, SectionFJambo said:

Neither move particularly impressive.

 

Harry understandable given he hasn't delivered at the higher level however Harry would concern me we couldn't find a league club to take him.

I would think the reason for Harry Stone would be so that he is still in Edinburgh. Sure I read somewhere that Harry Stone was continuing  with a University Education in tandem with playing football for the club.

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There's zero difference between EoS and league 2.  Think its a wise move, game time is whats important at his age, he will make his way up the leagues over next 2 season and be ready for first team Hearts in 2 years time I'm sure of it. 

 

On Cochrane, its a weird one, we all know he's capable but I feel he needs a run of games for Hearts, not another team. Only benefit I can see of sending him out is to give him a kick up the arse but if he's being linked with clubs like Brentford can't see it having its desired effect.  Montrose is a good club though, they like to play football, have good stability and he will be star player which I think he will thrive off.

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According to the Spartans website, Harry Stone will play today; and following an injury on Tuesday “Blair Carsewell will take some time out on the treatment table”. That suggests to me that the clubs have agreed that Harry will get a run of games even if their usual keeper (Blair Carsewell) gets back to fitness, which is good news.

 

Incidentally Spartans is where Harry played youth football up to age 13 before joining Hearts. I’m not sure if this gives them an extra interest in Harry’s progress  via a possible development fee if he was eventually sold for a big fee (as happened when Craig Gordon moved to Sunderland and I think his youth team got a small slice of the fee).

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