GinRummy Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, DC_92 said: In normal circumstances, maybe. From an outsider's perspective, they're in the top league playing against Celtic and Rangers and we're in the division below playing a 27 game season against part-timers which doesn't start for 2 months. He's also worked with their manager, so there's a connection there. It's not like they're an uber-diddy club like Livi or Hamilton either. I'd also be surprised if he signed for them anyway. Never realised the manager connection. As you say, it’s probably academic as seems unlikely to sign for either club but I doubt anyone would sign for united over us. Robbie Neilson knows the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Vlad the impaler said: Welcome to the party,an actual ITK poster🙏🏼 The only concrete info so far and he was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Agentjambo said: What have you been ITK about and got right? Lafferty Naismith Smith Walkers return. Man City loanees. Daniel Stendel. What have you got right? Edited August 16, 2020 by dazajmbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Vlad the impaler said: Welcome to the party,an actual ITK poster🙏🏼 I will say now. I know absolutely nothing this window apart from CG but that was an open secret. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Agentjambo said: The only concrete info so far and he was being sarcastic. My statement will be proved to be 100% correct though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: Lafferty Naismith Smith Walkers return. Man City loanees. Daniel Stendel. What have you got right? I don't claim to be ITK though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the impaler Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: The only concrete info so far and he was being sarcastic. You think? Duh🤤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Still surprises me that people don’t seem to realise that one of the main purposes of football forums is gossip and rumour. if you prefer to deal in fact - then there are better mediums.. moaning arseholes 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Vlad the impaler said: You think? Duh🤤 Aye 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: League 1 salary now averages £1700pw with League 2 at £1000pw. Existing contracts honoured but all new ones must be included in the cap calculation. We can now pay much more than League 1 & 2 clubs. If Norwood is out of contract we should be able to give him a much better salary than any club in Leagues 1 and 2 As far as I know he has a contract until 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, wavydavy said: As far as I know he has a contract until 2022. That link I posted claims he's getting paid £1700 x 5 = £8500 round abouts, plus bonuses on a 2 year contract, with no obligation to reduce it under the new salary cap. Until he's out of contract or he signs a new contract it says the same. So unless the club want him out which I can't see, or he wants out, I don't know why he would leave. Can't find a reason. I do realise the club wont release all the facts about their players, so there could be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. Totally. Clearly a couple of returnees too. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Would much rather we talk about other players we won't get, like Norwood for example. Rather than ex-Hearts kids, that folk were glad to see the back of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I'd be amazed if we're after both Cummings and Norwood when we already have Boyce and Naismith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. yep. Bizarre behaviour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Barack said: Would much rather we talk about other players we won't get, like Norwood for example. Rather than ex-Hearts kids, that folk were glad to see the back of. we weren’t glad to see the back of Cummings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: I'd be amazed if we're after both Cummings and Norwood when we already have Boyce and Naismith. I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: we weren’t glad to see the back of Cummings. Correct. He was never a Hearts player to start with. He only came of interest when Butcher pulled out of the Hibs EOS squad. What is our opinion of Doig at the Hobos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Ftfy. Well no, absolute nonsense to suggest any hearts fan at the time was glad to see the back of him. We released him when he had a bad injury when we couldnt afford to pay for his treatment. Edited August 16, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Tasavallan said: Correct. He was never a Hearts player to start with. He only came of interest when Butcher pulled out of the Hibs EOS squad. What is our opinion of Doig at the Hobos? bad mistake releasing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper. If we get Norwood I'll be suprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Barack said: Not really. I never missed him. Don't miss him now. And couldn't care if he re-signed or not. You watched him as a youth did you? You knew all about him? I very much doubt you even knew he existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartened Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 For me the best thing Cummings has done is miss a penalty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I think we should just sign 10 strikers and Gordon. **** the centre midfielder we have been looking for since Paul Hartley.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Barack said: You his Dad? ****ing hell. All our woes started when Jason left. Na, I’m just calling you out for talking bullshit.. what was it about his game or character that made you glad we released him at 16.🤷♂️🤦♂️😂 load of ****ing shite, never heard as single hearts fan say “ glad we got rid of that kid Cummings” 😂 in fact - when he was scoring roughly 1 in every 2 games for the hobos most were questioning why the **** we’d released another goal scorer. just say you don’t want to sign him now, that’s fine - an absolutely valid opinion.. don’t ****ing make out we were all delighted when he got a cruciate and was picked up by HV. That’s bollocks Edited August 16, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the impaler Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper. Is Cummings still represented by that parasite agent orange? If hearts really wants him I think he’d jump at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davemclaren Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, cocobeab said: One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. Where’s James Keatings these days? 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Personally the only thing I associate with 2012 is the loss of Cummings. Nothing else sticks in my memory from that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, cocobeab said: One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. This. We were fortunate zeefuik done us such a great turn. Had goals from keatings and hard to remember but even el hassanoui scored 4. Plus walker and paterson chipping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrincha Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 We are going to be on the front foot, dominating games next season, so we certainly need plenty of forward options. At least two more forwards required, especially when injuries and suspensions hit. We don’t want to be relying on Henderson, if Naismith and Boyce are unavailable. They two won’t manage 90 mins in all 27 league games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I really don’t think people are getting that when people say they don’t want us to sign Cummings or that we don’t need to sign Cummings specifically that it’s not the same as saying we don’t need back for two forwards. Of course no squad can rely on two players (even for a season that’s 3/4 of its usual length) to play 90 minutes up front. It’s just some people don’t see the point in the expenditure on someone like Cummings when there will be other options that will be a better fit in terms of financially, squad harmony, long or short term needs and abilities required. And of course some people just don’t want him specifically to sign, doesn’t mean they don’t see the need for more forwards at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. I get that it’s great for players to know what it means to pull on the maroon, but as Skacel, Adam, Quitongo etc will tell you you don’t have to born and raised in Edinburgh or have 6 degrees of separation from someone to ‘get’ the club. By the logic you’ve stated we should’ve hung onto Morrison? Levein should still be in charge? He was after all at one point manager of the national team and had successful spells in the past and a Hearts man through and through... I do get that clubs enjoy the ‘one of our own’ thing and it genuinely is nice to see. But personally I don’t like seeing players like Walker get very little grief for substandard performances when players who have contributed far more than he did last season get the “good riddance” chat, and that’s what that logic gets you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: League 1 salary now averages £1700pw with League 2 at £1000pw. Existing contracts honoured but all new ones must be included in the cap calculation. We can now pay much more than League 1 & 2 clubs. If Norwood is out of contract we should be able to give him a much better salary than any club in Leagues 1 and 2 He does have an existing contract for the next two years, so if Ipswich let him go then they'd probably have to replace him with someone much cheaper for the reasons you just gave. Cummings seems like a more realistic shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. He's going to have a fire under his arse from day 1 which couldn't be better. He knows damn well his antics at Hibs haven't endeared him to the support, but its well known he was brought up a Jambo so there is section of the support willing to give him a chance on that basis. I think he'd be looking to make an impact from day one. I think one of the few things we as a support demand is players that give their all. Its not much to ask for, and I think Cummings would be coming in with that attitude. He's got a point to prove. We all saw that when he was at Hibs, a man possessed. He was so motivated to get it up us for releasing him. I think the same motivation would be there to prove he deserves to be here. We already have Boyce and Naisy, we can't afford to be running 3 strikers of that standard, we've never actually had that kind of quality upfront for years, so expecting a 3rd in that same bracket is madness. Cummings would be about the highest level/wage bracket I could see us getting for a back up striker, and I think he'd be pushing Boyce all the way for that starting slot too. I'm excited by the prospect, here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 My youngest follows Ipswich and I took him to a few games last season in which Norwood played. He seemed to be what Ipswich were missing - someone to put the ball in the net, or hold the ball up to create chances for others. They started the season well, were top after a dozen to 15 games and Norwood was scoring goals. Then Ipswich pretty much imploded, I'm sure they ended up 9th when the season was ended, and Norwood had been injured and gone off the boil completely. It was almost like watching Hearts 2 seasons ago - form in the second half of the season was relegation form. The fans think much the same of Lambert as we did of Levein. However, I think Norwood is on decent money at Ipswich, he's the 'main man' as far as the fans are concerned - and if Ipswich can actually play to their potential they are one of the favorites to be promoted to the Championship. I just don't see him swapping that for a curtailed Scottish Championship - but would love to see it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 On 06/08/2020 at 09:41, BackOfTheNet said: Grinds my gears to be honest. Follow a few players on Instagram and I see a lot of them busting a gut working out and all he does is play golf every second day. Now of course he’s entitled to and maybe works out plenty without it being filmed and that, but he’s never been the fittest and especially since he’s come back he’s incredibly slow. I suppose I don’t like how he seems to get a free pass from the support. Someone has accused another player for being lazy because in one particular game he didn’t track back - that’s Walker every game yet people never call him lazy. So I guess my golf jibes are to help balance out the criticism more fairly across the team. Would love us to sign Cummings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy frog Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) This just popped up on my Flipboard phone app. I feel violated I'll need to look at the settings to prevent this happening again. Sneaky *******s though. Edited August 16, 2020 by crunchy frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, crunchy frog said: This just popped up on my Flipboard phone app. I feel violated I'll need to look at the settings to prevent this happening again. Sneaky *******s though. What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gov Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 The fighting on here is mental 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, JJ93 said: What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum? Irish for "heil heil" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Laxslax Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, gov said: The fighting on here is mental 🤦♂️ Yeah. The amount of numpties here who spout complete bollocks before retreating back under their rock with a whimper once called out, often uttering nonsensical shite and not addressing the point as they do so, is absurd. Edited August 16, 2020 by Doctor Laxslax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Can imagine if this week is the same as the last two weeks, then there will be some movement with the squad this week. From how close Uche's exit is, I can see that confirmed next few days. Possibly movement on Hickey. Have no inside info just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingAboutObua Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Uche's exit seems to be taking a while considering he's meant to have had his physical already, is it happening or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, JJ93 said: What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum? A precursor to "the Pope's in jail"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. It’s also not exactly a secret he’s a ned and would be disruptive. Trusting Cummings to stick to strict lockdown rules would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 💯% spot on.. (good Jambo and he will rise to being back at Hearts.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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