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Ron Burgundy
1 hour ago, Francis Albert said:

A great example of the general level of debate on Twitter. Like.

Blockbuster Girl knows what she's talking about from her years of oppression.

It's fecking embarrassing now.

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Blockbuster Girl knows what she's talking about from her years of oppression.

It's fecking embarrassing now.

 

Haha, oh dear. Blockbuster Girl is like Iceland beating England in the Euro, and all the well documented reasons why.

 

This and the post you replied to are the dinosaurs of Scottish football and the associated qualifying results.

 

There's certainly things to be fecking embarrassed about now. In fact, Malky Mackay as the national setup's performance director finishes off the analogy quite well. :thumbsup:

 

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23 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

 

Haha, oh dear. Blockbuster Girl is like Iceland beating England in the Euro, and all the well documented reasons why.

 

This and the post you replied to are the dinosaurs of Scottish football and the associated qualifying results.

 

There's certainly things to be fecking embarrassed about now. In fact, Malky Mackay as the national setup's performance director finishes off the analogy quite well. :thumbsup:

 

Every dog has it's day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think you have to distinguish between Black Lives Matter (the organisation) and the general Black Lives Matter movement. Most people protesting have legitimate concerns. BLM the organisation are lacking in credibility because some of their mission statement is ludicrous - as Starmer pointed out.

 

To say ‘when we said defund the police, what we meant was invest more in social support’ is so laughable it’s almost unbelievable. Makes them sound like a bunch of students 

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16 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

I think you have to distinguish between Black Lives Matter (the organisation) and the general Black Lives Matter movement. Most people protesting have legitimate concerns. BLM the organisation are lacking in credibility because some of their mission statement is ludicrous - as Starmer pointed out.

 

To say ‘when we said defund the police, what we meant was invest more in social support’ is so laughable it’s almost unbelievable. Makes them sound like a bunch of students 

The politic BLM are as racist AF. The #BLM have a point. 

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5 hours ago, Justin Z said:

 

Haha, oh dear. Blockbuster Girl is like Iceland beating England in the Euro, and all the well documented reasons why.

 

This and the post you replied to are the dinosaurs of Scottish football and the associated qualifying results.

 

There's certainly things to be fecking embarrassed about now. In fact, Malky Mackay as the national setup's performance director finishes off the analogy quite well. :thumbsup:

 

I have like,literally no idea what this post means. Hope I have got the Twitter lingo right there.

 

As the poster Ron Burgundy replied to,  I have no idea why I am, or my  post is, "a dinosaur of Scottish football and he associated qualifying results". Or the relevance of Malky Mackay to the topic. 

 

Or why Blockbuster Girl is "like Iceland beating England" My on-line Urban Slang dictionary is doubtless out of date but "Blockbuster Girl" comes up as an easy lay. Presumably that is not what her Twitter name refers to.

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On 29/06/2020 at 17:37, Cruyff said:

Anyone see that story of two met cops being suspended for taking selfies with the bodies of two black sisters that had been murdered?

 

Jesus ****ing wept like. 

 Shocking behaviour. But what does the race of the victims have to do with anything?

 

 

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1 minute ago, His name is said:

 Shocking behaviour. But what does the race of the victims have to do with anything?

 

 

Pretty much everything. 

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10 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Pretty much everything. 

I'm pretty sure if your sick enough to take a selfie with a dead body it wouldn't really matter what race the body was. Out interest do we know the ethnicities of the police officers? If non white, is it still racism?

 

We're now at the point where any negativity towards minorities is racism. 

 

Is racism an issue in the UK/Scotland, yes.

 

Is calling everything negative towards minorities racism helpful to anyone. No.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, His name is said:

I'm pretty sure if your sick enough to take a selfie with a dead body it wouldn't really matter what race the body was. Out interest do we know the ethnicities of the police officers? If non white, is it still racism?

 

We're now at the point where any negativity towards minorities is racism. 

 

Is racism an issue in the UK/Scotland, yes.

 

Is calling everything negative towards minorities racism helpful to anyone. No.

 

 

Nah. You've definitely got the wrong end of the stick like. It wasn't just about the selfies. If you had listened to it on Jeremy Vine yesterday you'd understand. It was the Met Polices attitude when they were first reported missing all the way to the how their bodies were treated. Not just about the selfies. 

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4 minutes ago, weehammy said:

When will Washington State and DC be renamed? Also when will the Washington and Jefferson monuments be torn down. If the statues of confederates who fought for slavery have to go what about the monuments to these ‘founding fathers’ who not only kept slaves but slept with them? Woodrow Wilson seems like a much more convenient target.

 

Jefferson's legacy is especially whitewashed (pun intended), no doubt. I much prefer the character of him in Sherman Edwards' 1776 and in Lin-Manuel Miranda's Hamilton to the real life version. Of course, even those representations are problematic!
 

There is a fetishisation of the Founders in the States that goes beyond even the lionisation of people like Churchill in the UK. Hopefully, someday, all historical figures like this will be represented honestly, with all their flaws laid bare and their positives not overstated, for people to judge accordingly.

 

You are correct that Wilson is low hanging fruit. So would a person like Andrew Jackson be (an irredeemable arsehole) and yet he's on some of our money. 🤷‍♂️

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On 01/07/2020 at 14:21, weehammy said:

Also when will the Washington and Jefferson monuments be torn down.

 

Topical . . .

 

From Thomas Jefferson's own family, a call to take down his memorial

 

“The memorial is a shrine to a man who during his lifetime owned more than 600 slaves and had at least six children with one of them, Sally Hemings,” Truscott writes. “It’s a shrine to a man who famously wrote that ‘all men are created equal’ in the Declaration of Independence that founded this nation — and yet never did much to make those words come true. Upon his death, he did not free the people he enslaved, other than those in the Hemings family, some of whom were his own children. He sold everyone else to pay off his debts.”

 

Truscott argues that Monticello serves as an “almost perfect memorial” to the nation’s third president. In his opinion, Monticello notes Jefferson’s major contributions to the creation of the United States — including the Declaration of Independence — but also includes his history as a slave owner, or, as Truscott writes, “it reveals him with his moral failings in full, an imperfect man, a flawed founder.”

 

On 01/07/2020 at 14:31, Justin Z said:

Hopefully, someday, all historical figures like this will be represented honestly, with all their flaws laid bare and their positives not overstated, for people to judge accordingly.

 

Quoting myself, but it seems Jefferson's descendant agrees that doing away with statues would do nothing to jeopardise this, and in fact, serve that purpose all the better.

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Amy Cooper, the white woman who went viral after being recorded calling the cops on a black man who had simply asked her to leash her dog in a park, has been charged with filing a false report, a Class A misdemeanor which can carry a 1-year jail term.

She lost her job a couple of days after the incident.

 

Meanwhile, in the UK, a black man who was driving home at night after having been interviewed about everyday police racism on Channel 4 news was involved in a forceful police action.

The police followed close behind his car for some time, then pulled him over claiming they "could smell weed" (this same claim keeps cropping up time and time again in relation to black people being stopped by police). They tanned the driver's side window, dragged him from the car, restrained him then detained him for several hours only to release him without charge a few hours later.

As he was walking to the pound to collect his car, another police car stopped him and questioned him on why he was on the street at that time of night and what he was doing.

No compensation for his smashed car window was offered.

The incident has been formally referred to the police watchdog and a formal complaint has been made to the police force directly.

 

Back in the United States, several hundred fully armed militia wankers showed up at Gettysburg to stop a flag burning protest that turned out to be a hoax.

 

Also this week, historian and arsehole in chief David Starkey has had all his publishing deals cancelled, was forced to resign his honorary fellowship at Fitzwilliam College and was fired as a visiting professor at Canterbury Christ Church College after saying that "slavery cannot be considered to have been genocide because there are so many damn blacks in Africa and Britain."

 

Never a dull moment in race relations.

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Some really horrible stuff on social media involving attacks on white people by gangs of black thugs.

Not a peep in MSM.

Wont post it as I'm sure a lot of you have seen it.

Disgusting stuff.

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14 minutes ago, jake said:

Some really horrible stuff on social media involving attacks on white people by gangs of black thugs.

Not a peep in MSM.

Wont post it as I'm sure a lot of you have seen it.

Disgusting stuff.

Whose social media are you viewing? 

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16 minutes ago, jake said:

Some really horrible stuff on social media involving attacks on white people by gangs of black thugs.

Not a peep in MSM.

Wont post it as I'm sure a lot of you have seen it.

Disgusting stuff.

I seen a couple fecking haufwits kissing black peoples feet the other day. Wtf are these people all about. 

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19 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Whose social media are you viewing? 

Folk sharing stuff on fb and you tube.

I dont do twitter and other than that heres about it.

I've seen quite a lot of it recently.

 

I dont like or comment on the videos as it's bad enough on here getting called racist.

One in particular where a white boy was set upon despite being at a blm protest in support.

 

What is worrying is the comments as there is a definite backlash .

It is really not helpful when you have idiotic ideology that promotes racism such as white skin privilege.

And arsehole politicians claiming systemic racism in schools .

Question it and your racist is the fall back answer.

Deny you are a racist and that's even worse.

Apparently you have to acknowledge that because you are white you must be.

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Just now, jake said:

Folk sharing stuff on fb and you tube.

I dont do twitter and other than that heres about it.

I've seen quite a lot of it recently.

 

I dont like or comment on the videos as it's bad enough on here getting called racist.

One in particular where a white boy was set upon despite being at a blm protest in support.

 

What is worrying is the comments as there is a definite backlash .

It is really not helpful when you have idiotic ideology that promotes racism such as white skin privilege.

And arsehole politicians claiming systemic racism in schools .

Question it and your racist is the fall back answer.

Deny you are a racist and that's even worse.

Apparently you have to acknowledge that because you are white you must be.

I've seen the same videos o  Facebook, ****ing racist *****, and what's been said about it........?

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24 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said:

Big oof. Toronto BLM leader’s thoughts on white people.

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Nice mix of socialism and racial superiority.

Still I suppose living in an oppressive state like Canada has formed her views.

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9 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I've seen the same videos o  Facebook, ****ing racist *****, and what's been said about it........?

Theres an awful lot and I suspect the tip of an iceberg.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jake said:

Theres an awful lot and I suspect the tip of an iceberg.

 

 

 

People who think racism is a one way of street white privilege are full of shite. 

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14 minutes ago, Cade said:

She's an arsehole.

 

That doesn't invalidate the entire movement nor make racism not exist.

 

 


Never said any of that. But I haven’t seen any distancing of the BLM leaders from what is effectively ‘mein kampf’ with black and white in place of Arian and Jew. 

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34 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said:

Never said any of that. But I haven’t seen any distancing of the BLM leaders from what is effectively ‘mein kampf’ with black and white in place of Arian and Jew. 

 

Yeah. Big oof indeed. I'm all in favour of a consistently marginalised group building itself up in solidarity in order to heal/rally and respond to and overcome that stuff. This is not that—this is as you said, Mein Kampf in reverse.

 

One of the more touching things I've read throughout this whole thing has been "it's a good thing Black people simply want equality, not revenge." True, but as she makes clear, a small minority do want revenge and indeed, if history had been different and they'd been the ones in power, they'd have been the ones instituting slavery or Jim Crow in reverse.

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16 hours ago, jake said:

Theres an awful lot and I suspect the tip of an iceberg.

 

 

 

Loads like this from all over the world.

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2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Loads like this from all over the world.

There's a bullet in Cop's gun waiting for these two pricks.

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2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Loads like this from all over the world.

Hitting wee lassies. Hopefully her big feck off Da or Brother comes chapping on his door. 

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Really love watching MoTD highlights at the moment.

 

Must say, it irritates me to hell, before every single game, they show the playes on one knee and comment that BLM.

Every single game highlights, since it restarted.

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1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said:

Really love watching MoTD highlights at the moment.

 

Must say, it irritates me to hell, before every single game, they show the playes on one knee and comment that BLM.

Every single game highlights, since it restarted.

Pathetic.

It’ll take one player not to comply and that would be interesting.

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6 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Loads like this from all over the world.

Not being ignorant mate but I will give watching it a miss.

Going by Albans comments it will just rile me .

 

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6 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Loads like this from all over the world.

 

That is absolutely disgusting. Imagine that was your daughter. 

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6 minutes ago, jake said:

Not being ignorant mate but I will give watching it a miss.

Going by Albans comments it will just rile me .

 

Good move, ****ing digusting whats going on and being ignored by the woke world press.

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5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Good move, ****ing digusting whats going on and being ignored by the woke world press.

Mate theres precedent.

Thousands of children were left to enslavement in this country because they were white.

Sex slaves targeted because they were/are white.

And when I say thousands I'm talking tens of.

Ignored by social services

By police

By the press.

In fact any mp who raised it faced the catch all response .

You are a racist.

 

So no surprises that adults beaten for being white wont raise a peep.

 

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These videos must be fake. I have just "read" the second of the Guardian's week long series of wall posters about black history (beginning with the illiterate sentence "History is not about the past"!) On the basis of what I have read/seen so far no black person has ever done anything bad. There is no mention for example of Africans' role in slavery as owners and traders (long before the white devils came on the scene) and the invasion and occupancy of Spain and other parts of Europe  by the Moors (honorary blacks whether they would like it or not) is described almost as an achievement to be proud of. The looting and burning of property by "protesters"  in American cities in the 60s similarly passed over merely as part of the civil rights movement, despite the victims being mainly black. 

 

I hesitated to post this knowing it would label me as a racist. I think what I find most repugnant is that a once great newspaper should produce simplistic and ahistoric propaganda (in a format that would insult an intelligent 12 year old) worthy of the worst totalitarian regimes ... because it knows it will resonate with much of its achingly woke readership.

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2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Pathetic.

It’ll take one player not to comply and that would be interesting.

I am a supporter of the whole blm movement, if not the actions of some of the hanger ons but surely people should be free to take the knee or not if they choose. Also, it's very easy for the English football authorities to have these displays happening in empty stadiums. I suspect there wouldn't exactly be respectful silence in a full stadium

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Just now, XB52 said:

I am a supporter of the whole blm movement, if not the actions of some of the hanger ons but surely people should be free to take the knee or not if they choose. Also, it's very easy for the English football authorities to have these displays happening in empty stadiums. I suspect there wouldn't exactly be respectful silence in a full stadium

Unfortunately these things grow and it can be for the wrong reasons. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Francis Albert said:

These videos must be fake. I have just "read" the second of the Guardian's week long series of wall posters about black history (beginning with the illiterate sentence "History is not about the past"!) On the basis of what I have read/seen so far no black person has ever done anything bad. There is no mention for example of Africans' role in slavery as owners and traders (long before the white devils came on the scene) and the invasion and occupancy of Spain and other parts of Europe  by the Moors (honorary blacks whether they would like it or not) is described almost as an achievement to be proud of. The looting and burning of property by "protesters"  in American cities in the 60s similarly passed over merely as part of the civil rights movement, despite the victims being mainly black. 

 

I hesitated to post this knowing it would label me as a racist. I think what I find most repugnant is that a once great newspaper should produce simplistic and ahistoric propaganda (in a format that would insult an intelligent 12 year old) worthy of the worst totalitarian regimes ... because it knows it will resonate with much of its achingly woke readership.

Being white is enough to label you as racist .

If you admit it then you are aware of it and that's the best you can be.

White skin privilage theory.

 

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Thanks @Frank. He nails it that as cogs in the capitalist machine, none of our individual lives matter. And he hits on intersectionality both in his monologue and in the song.

 

Yes, poor whites exist, obviously. That they don't have to deal with some of the things that Black people of all socioeconomic classes do, is not a belittlement of their own struggles. A poor rural white person struggling to put food on the table alongside his Black neighbour—even though the Black neighbour will face additional hurdles due to his race that the white person won't, they have much common ground and many reforms exist that could benefit them equally. But a middle class Black person getting pulled over, again and again, for driving a decent car that looks too nice for his "station", because of structural racism?

 

Acknowledging that person lacks the privilege not to "drive while Black," that even the poor white guy would have, is not to say the rural folks in the first part of the example have it easy because of their skin colour. Just that various forms of privilege hit in different ways. Or one of the examples in the song, that Black people are 2½ times more likely to be killed by police than white people. Doesn't mean white people don't get killed by police, including the possibly worst incident of it ever, here in Arizona, a few years ago. Making it worse is that the officer who murdered Daniel Shaver in the iciest of blood is now sitting at home with a $30,000 a year pension rolling in.

 

Anyway. Good stuff from Ice-T, and cheers for sharing it.

 

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On 12/07/2020 at 18:40, Captain Sausage said:

Big oof. Toronto BLM leader’s thoughts on white people.

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That is disgusting reading. Replace where it says black with white and you're genuinely talking about some pseudo-nazi-eugenics style thinking.  Its absolute poison.

 

The fact that people like that are able to climb to the top of these organisations is deeply worrying. None of that disgusting word soup lends credibility to the BLM movement. I watched the George Floyd murder and it made me feel physically sick. There is an absolute need for a movement like BLM over in the states. We're not talking about one isolated incident. Its not regular either but it is regular enough to highlight the need for change. Chris Rock has a great bit where he talks about Airline pilots and how they don't have 'bad eggs' because if they did a lot of people would die. I think the same of Police. Its not a profession where bad eggs can be tolerated. IIRC the Netherlands have very intense psychological tests officers need to sit to even get into the Academy to weed out these sorts. Certainly something they could look into. Credibility is incredibly important as change doesn't just happen, it needs wide ranging support as that lends the cause credibility. Frankly ridiculous statements like the post you've quoted quite rightly scares credible people away from getting behind them. That woman should be nowhere near the BLM movement. 

 

These calls to 'defund the police' seem lacking in credibility too. Like it requires too much explanation. Well defund what? Demilitarising the Police clarifies it better and should really IMO be the slogan they get behind. Ironically, defunding is the worst thing they could do. Its incredibly doubtful that cuts would come from the more militarised aspects of the police force, more than likely it would be essential services like mental health training or other areas which attempt to promote positive social engagement with communities. It should be about promoting training in deescalation, increasing the length of time they are trainees etc. People more in tune with this will have better ideas than me. 

 

Anyway, she's disgusting and doing the BLM movement zero favours at a time where people reluctant for change are trying to dig their heels in. She's just handed them a massive 'we have no credibility' banner on a silver platter.

 

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24 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

Thanks @Frank. He nails it that as cogs in the capitalist machine, none of our individual lives matter. And he hits on intersectionality both in his monologue and in the song.

 

Yes, poor whites exist, obviously. That they don't have to deal with some of the things that Black people of all socioeconomic classes do, is not a belittlement of their own struggles. A poor rural white person struggling to put food on the table alongside his Black neighbour—even though the Black neighbour will face additional hurdles due to his race that the white person won't, they have much common ground and many reforms exist that could benefit them equally. But a middle class Black person getting pulled over, again and again, for driving a decent car that looks too nice for his "station", because of structural racism?

 

Acknowledging that person lacks the privilege not to "drive while Black," that even the poor white guy would have, is not to say the rural folks in the first part of the example have it easy because of their skin colour. Just that various forms of privilege hit in different ways. Or one of the examples in the song, that Black people are 2½ times more likely to be killed by police than white people. Doesn't mean white people don't get killed by police, including the possibly worst incident of it ever, here in Arizona, a few years ago. Making it worse is that the officer who murdered Daniel Shaver in the iciest of blood is now sitting at home with a $30,000 a year pension rolling in.

 

Anyway. Good stuff from Ice-T, and cheers for sharing it.

 

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On 15/07/2020 at 16:15, Frank said:

 

 

Ice-T smashes the nail right on the head, as always ☝

 

I played that in work without looking at the title.  Expected it to be just Ice T talking and then the music kicked in :laugh2:

 

BODY COUNT'S IN THE HOOOUUSSSE

 

I remember Ice T calling out Charlton Heston after he gave a speech about Cop Killer and the most notably the use of guns to kill people.  All the while being the president of the NRA.  

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