BigAlim Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Goalkeepers - Zlamal Doyle Stone Right Backs - M.Smith Brandon Centre Backs - Souttar Halkett Berra Hamilton Left Backs - Hickey Garuccio White Burns Centre Mids - Damour Haring Irving Cochrane C.Smith Wide players - Clare Walker McDonald Moore Henderson Strikers - Naismith Boyce Ikpeazu Wighton Washington Not sure if thats everyone or not as i'm sure theres some more talented youngsters kicking about. Of the players left we know that Damour has hinted at thinking about his future, we were also trying to get Doyle out the door in January so assume we'll try again this summer. If Stendel stays I'd expect Berra will fancy moving on and Wighton is a lost cause as well. Think pretty much every position needs strengthening especially if others want to leave Edited June 2, 2020 by BigAlim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Of the youngsters I would add Cammy Logan, right back; Leo Watson left sided back / midfield and possibly Leeroy Makovora forward. Others there too depending on choices. Edited June 2, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyC Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Add Washington into that as well, for the time being. And Olly Lee. Edited June 2, 2020 by TommyC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Washington. If (big if) we somehow manage to keep Washington, Naismith, Boyce and Uche then I’d say we were fine up top. Midfield will be the big one. Where games are won and lost. We cracked it with Gomis, Buaben and Pallardo. Unfortunately we have made an arse of midfield ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Depends on what league of course. If we don't sell anyone we're okay for Championship. But we need some better players for Premiership. Better attitude too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Added in Washington. In an ideal world I'd be looking to move on Doyle, Berra, damour, Lee and Wighton. Hopefully we can convince others to stay but that's out of our hands ultimately. Hopefully we can add a keeper, centre half, two centre mids and a winger at the very least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Do we reckon this team would be good enough to win the championship? Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Clare Haring Irving Washington Naismith Boyce Bench - Stone Garuccio Brandon McDonald Cochrane Moore Henderson Ikpeazu Would likely run into bother when the inevitable injuries hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Do we reckon this team would be good enough to win the championship? Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Clare Haring Irving Washington Naismith Boyce Bench - Stone Garuccio Brandon McDonald Cochrane Moore Henderson Ikpeazu Would likely run into bother when the inevitable injuries hit That team would piss the championship if managed correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Haringshairband said: That team would piss the championship if managed correctly. It should piss the Championship if managed by Isa from Still Game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything2 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Do we reckon this team would be good enough to win the championship? Zlamal Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Clare Haring Irving Washington Naismith Boyce Bench - Stone Garuccio Brandon McDonald Cochrane Moore Henderson Ikpeazu Would likely run into bother when the inevitable injuries hit Fully fit and playing with confidence, that team should be in the mix for a European spot. The squad needs trimmed and more balance but individually they are not without talent. Add a new keeper, a centre back with pace and a creative midfielder and that would be a good squad. Maybe a left sided midfielder as well. In the Championship they should be cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: That team would piss the championship if managed correctly. A fit Boyce could get 30 goals by Christmas (if games are played). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 At most i would keep the following Goalkeepers - Stone Right Backs - M.Smith Centre Backs - Souttar Halkett Hamilton Left Backs - Hickey Burns Centre Mids - Haring Irving Cochrane C.Smith Wide players - Clare McDonald Henderson Strikers - Naismith Boyce Washington However if its Championship football i think we will lose a number of the following. M. Smith, Halkett, Hickey, Clare, Washington. If it’s championship and its a curtailed season I think you can potentially add Boyce and Naismith to that list as well. Whatever division we end up in, that team needs totally gutted, carrying too many players who 1. Lack any real graft. 2. Cannot shake off previous injuries. 3. Lack basic skills. 4. Have become used to getting beat. The full team rebuild in the summer before the last time in the championship showed that decent players can be found cheaply. Doesn’t matter if we end up in a reconstructed Premiership or the championship I would be looking at bringing back Gordon & McDonald and then building from there. We need 4 centre backs, Souttar can’t be trusted to last half a season now without some form of injury. Then adding at least another right back and a couple of midfielders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, DS98 said: It should piss the Championship if managed by Isa from Still Game! true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mundaydog said: At most i would keep the following Goalkeepers - Stone Right Backs - M.Smith Centre Backs - Souttar Halkett Hamilton Left Backs - Hickey Burns Centre Mids - Haring Irving Cochrane C.Smith Wide players - Clare McDonald Henderson Strikers - Naismith Boyce Washington However if its Championship football i think we will lose a number of the following. M. Smith, Halkett, Hickey, Clare, Washington. If it’s championship and its a curtailed season I think you can potentially add Boyce and Naismith to that list as well. Whatever division we end up in, that team needs totally gutted, carrying too many players who 1. Lack any real graft. 2. Cannot shake off previous injuries. 3. Lack basic skills. 4. Have become used to getting beat. The full team rebuild in the summer before the last time in the championship showed that decent players can be found cheaply. Doesn’t matter if we end up in a reconstructed Premiership or the championship I would be looking at bringing back Gordon & McDonald and then building from there. We need 4 centre backs, Souttar can’t be trusted to last half a season now without some form of injury. Then adding at least another right back and a couple of midfielders Hopefully we know soon and a new manager or Stendel can do a whole squad rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Before injuries and lockdown, I had been looking forward to the time when DS had Haring and Sibbick available to play together, and had I been in his shoes I would have gone Zlamal Clare Smith Halkett Hickey Washington Haring Sibbick Moore Boyce Naismith I always felt this would be somewhere along the lines he needed for balance for the pressing style. Many options covering full backs getting forward, energy, pace and stature in the midfield and I would have loved to have seen that team dominating both home and away. If this team was available for the Championship, my god, look out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 If Washington is a Hearts player next season, I’ll eat my sofa. Players I’d expect to leave/go out on loan (Assuming we’re down); - Washington - Damour - Uche - Doyle - Hickey - Souttar - White - Garrucio - Lee Starting 11 next season (assuming we don’t bring anyone else in) Zlamal Smith Halkett Berra Burns Irving Haring Moore Naismith Walker Boyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 We will need to trim that squad somehow, no matter what league we are in. If we are in the Championship a few of those might want to leave which is fair enough as we need fresh blood anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: If Washington is a Hearts player next season, I’ll eat my sofa. Players I’d expect to leave/go out on loan (Assuming we’re down); - Washington - Damour - Uche - Doyle - Hickey - Souttar - White - Garrucio - Lee Starting 11 next season (assuming we don’t bring anyone else in) Zlamal Smith Halkett Berra Burns Irving Haring Moore Naismith Walker Boyce Managed well should be more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Considering Dunfermline don't have cash to begin, I would imagine that it would be a massacre. However we will be playing top level football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakybunnet Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 This is the squad that has seen us bottom of the league withe 8 games to and ultimately expelled. If we keep them or most of them do you really think they will get us promoted? We should look back to 2014 when we used a lot of the young players left after the exodus of the dross and brought in some good players. Particularity Gomis who was brilliant for the whole team that season. Get rid of the majority, use youth and bring in "real quality" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Peakybunnet said: This is the squad that has seen us bottom of the league withe 8 games to and ultimately expelled. If we keep them or most of them do you really think they will get us promoted? We should look back to 2014 when we used a lot of the young players left after the exodus of the dross and brought in some good players. Particularity Gomis who was brilliant for the whole team that season. Get rid of the majority, use youth and bring in "real quality" Getting rid of Pereira and Damour will give us a 15 point head start imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Does nobody rate Callumn Morrison? Edited June 2, 2020 by scott herbertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, DS98 said: It should piss the Championship if managed by Isa from Still Game! Whilst on paper I completely agree with you, that squad seen us bottom of the league! Albeit I still think its one of the best squads in Scotland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Peakybunnet said: This is the squad that has seen us bottom of the league withe 8 games to and ultimately expelled. If we keep them or most of them do you really think they will get us promoted? We should look back to 2014 when we used a lot of the young players left after the exodus of the dross and brought in some good players. Particularity Gomis who was brilliant for the whole team that season. Get rid of the majority, use youth and bring in "real quality" Championship is a lower standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 M. Smith and Washington certainly won't be here. Clare and Hickey will be poached. Don't think Uche will be here either. Would happily keep all those under 21 plus, Soapy, Garuccio, Haring, Walker, Naisy and Boyce Would gladly see the goalies, White Halkett and Damour launched asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: Does nobody rate Callumn Morrison? I'm not a fan. I thought he went backwards after a promising start. He has pace on his side but his composure/football intelligence are severely lacking. That said, I'd give him a chance in the Championship it that's where we end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Great news about Haring I read today. Can't wait to get back, fully fit. Quite happy to be in the championship if that's how it has to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Ann Budge stated in a recent interview (Hearts TV) we are not going to be signing any new players. We are basically going to be using the existing squad. Bonus will be more reliance on younger guys like Cochrane, MacDonald, and C Smith. Haring back fit and raring to go will be like a new signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsthefuture Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Many games I seen pockets of promise, lack of consistency and balance missing from the team. goalkeeper needed, possibly Gordon as he can work with stone. getting Sibbick back as I can’t see Haring being a constant the young guys have to step up or step out Outs - Damour - Uche - Doyle - Hickey - White - Garrucio - Lee Smith Berra Still think it will be top league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, Homme said: Whilst on paper I completely agree with you, that squad seen us bottom of the league! Albeit I still think its one of the best squads in Scotland! It’s not really based on how good a squad we will have, it’s more on how poor a standard of the Championship will be. I don’t think some people realise just how bad. ICT and Dundee you would imagine would be the biggest threats. ICT have lost their best players and Dundee are just awful. One of our worst players last season went on loan to them and was instantly their best player. If the Championship season manages to go ahead, most of the other teams will be on their knees and scraping by. We should be aiming to smash our own points record for that league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Moore’s just signed a 2 year extension by the way. 👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 If we’re in the championship I would keep Berra. Did well for Dundee as the game is more route one down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, scott herbertson said: Does nobody rate Callumn Morrison? Completely forgot about him tbh. His crossing isn't great but I think the championship might help him kick on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: Moore’s just signed a 2 year extension by the way. 👍👍👍 That's got Stendel written all over it 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) If in the championship, I think Clare, Smith and Washington will be off. Hickey to leave no matter what for a fee. I also think uche, Lee, Damour (all down south) and our 3 gks will be gone no matter what. That leaves if in the championship Gk None Def Brandon Ben White Berra Halkett Souttar Mid Haring Moore Walker MacDonald Harry Irving Strikers Naismith Boyce Unsure on youngsters being promoted. We'll 100% need a goalie with Stone being back up, Likley a senior mid and at least one winger. Maybe a rb as well. One striker. If in the top league we ll need to replace Lee, Uche and Damour with good players and we'll still have Smith, Washington and Clare. Top 11 if fit. (championship) Gk Brandon Souttar Berra White Haring Irving/ new mid Lw Walker Naismith Boyce Stone, Halkett, Moore, MacDonald, striker, blah, blah. Likley be a new manager as well. Edited June 2, 2020 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, jr ewing said: Managed well should be more than enough. Burns has no chance of being first choice..along with all the left backs except for the obvious ( maybe Garruccio would be one of two we require ) That is a position we will need to find a left back as none of them bar Hickey is good enough.. That's 2/3 more to go along with Doyle We then will have players like Berra who have no future if Stendel stays and if we can move Doyle on there may be a keeper required There will be others who move of their own volition...I would imagine another 3 or 4 taking in to account those who we have to accept offers for. So another 6/7 will go...we will have to make a few signings to replace those who will have left If no one leaves we would romp the championship but some will have to...what it does show is the volume of playing staff we have on our books ,,,over 20 by the time the new season comes around will have left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Squidster Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Tom Walsh is available so thought I'd tout him as a possibile signing ;). With the news of our squad update (see ICTFC website for info, if interested), my opinion is that we are going to be fighting you guys and Dundee for the title, if we hold onto Robbo, or as us likely, competently replace him with a similar quality manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: That's got Stendel written all over it 👍 I’m thinking the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: That's got Stendel written all over it 👍 More likely it is the club protecting any sell on value Though I doubt if Stendel would be unhappy to see him on the books should he stay as manger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: That's got Stendel written all over it 👍 To be fair he's the only Manager in the top 3 divisions of Scottish Football who actually rates him,so it must be. Once a new Manager comes in Moore will be immediately binned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, CJGJ said: More likely it is the club protecting any sell on value Though I doubt if Stendel would be unhappy to see him on the books should he stay as manger He has literally zero sell on value,he couldn't get a game at Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, David McCaig said: He has literally zero sell on value,he couldn't get a game at Falkirk. Yes that would be right..a player who has been part of the first team at Hearts has no value I'd think again if I was you...thank god at least one person has faith in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DS98 said: It should piss the Championship if managed by Isa from Still Game! Have you heard something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, CJGJ said: Yes that would be right..a player who has been part of the first team at Hearts has no value I'd think again if I was you...thank god at least one person has faith in him. A player who came to the fore as Hearts plummeted to the foot of the table... He is a poor man's David Smith, although at least Smith once scored a goal. I'm happy to categorically state that Lewis Moore will never generate a transfer fee. He is light years behind a Sam Nicholson, Billy King or Andy Driver. File under David Smith, Joe Hamill and Robert Sloan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Caley Squidster said: Tom Walsh is available so thought I'd tout him as a possibile signing ;). With the news of our squad update (see ICTFC website for info, if interested), my opinion is that we are going to be fighting you guys and Dundee for the title, if we hold onto Robbo, or as us likely, competently replace him with a similar quality manager. I like Inverness, but I'd be disappointed if any club was within 25 points of us at the end of a full Championship season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Haringshairband said: That team would piss the championship if managed correctly. No chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: No chance Every chance it would. Do you remember the standard of that league even with Hibs and Rangers in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eck1874 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I personally think very few players from our squad will be going anywhere. Most league one and two clubs in England are going to have next to zero cash and will be signing no one so can see us keeping all of our players that have a contract just so that they have some sort of security for the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakybunnet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Championship is a lower standard. We should be building for two or three seasons ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Peakybunnet said: This is the squad that has seen us bottom of the league withe 8 games to and ultimately expelled. If we keep them or most of them do you really think they will get us promoted? We should look back to 2014 when we used a lot of the young players left after the exodus of the dross and brought in some good players. Particularity Gomis who was brilliant for the whole team that season. Get rid of the majority, use youth and bring in "real quality" I’m sceptical only if we manage to wangle staying in the SPL. While we were poorly managed we shouldn’t forget many players in the squad weren’t good enough over the last couple of years. Part of the reason why we were mid table and worse but some bizarrely still rate a few? I hope we use this time to have a right good reconstruction of the squad within the parameters which will allow us. I hope it’s Stendel. I’ve got a feeling he’s good with young players and individual performances got better in many, while results maybe weren’t as good as we’d have liked Allied with his own signings, I’d like to see some of our better young players given the platform. Esp liked C.Smith from the times I saw him. Edited June 3, 2020 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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