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BarneyBattles

Not much of a car buff but got the car booked in to the garage on Friday as got a red warning message that the DPF is full ‘contact dealer’. 
 

Never got any amber warning saying it was regenerating. Went straight to red. 
 

Presume it will need replaced? If so, any idea of how much it will cost?

 

The car is a 4 year old jaguar xe 2l. I normally drive up to Aberdeen once every week or two but obviously not been doing that for the last 8 weeks. Could it be it just needs a good run on the motorway instead of The 1 mile to the shops Every couple of days I’ve been doing? 
 

Don’t really want to risk hammering it as the engine light is also on, albeit that’s amber not red. 
 

Thanks in advance for any advice. 

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Irufushi

Thrash hell out off it for a few miles, should hopefully clear the fault. Might get rid of engine light too .

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been here before

Id never heard of these until a couple of years ago when my brother mentioned he'd been quoted about £1500 for a replacement or clean or whatever.

 

Someone had told him to go for a drive on the motorway until the light went off. It worked after about an hour of driving 'around' 70.

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BarneyBattles
20 minutes ago, Irufushi said:

Thrash hell out off it for a few miles, should hopefully clear the fault. Might get rid of engine light too .


Seriously? 
 

It’s a decent car so if it was going to cost a (good) few hundred to fix I’d rather pay it than risk completely knackering it!

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BarneyBattles
3 minutes ago, been here before said:

Id never heard of these until a couple of years ago when my brother mentioned he'd been quoted about £1500 for a replacement or clean or whatever.

 

Someone had told him to go for a drive on the motorway until the light went off. It worked after about an hour of driving 'around' 70.


If it was an amber Light I’d definitely do that but a bit scared to as it’s red!

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been here before
5 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:


If it was an amber Light I’d definitely do that but a bit scared to as it’s red!

 

Fair do's. I know **** all about cars right enough 🤣

 

Anyhoos.... try deeking about here:

 

https://www.dpfproblems.net/can-i-drive-with-the-dpf-light-on/

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DALLY JAMBO

Had major problems with a land rover discovery sport 150bhp 2017 bought as a demonstrator from main dealer 9000 miles a year it needed 3 oil changes a year as service light came on and it required a regen every 20 days lucky I had a 5 year service plan which covered this after a lot of major issues the dealer replaced the dpf ,assemblies and sensors under warranty full cost including vat was £2200 the car ran a lot better but by that time I had lost faith in the motor and agreed a but back from land rover hope this helps

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Spellczech

Diesel engines need a motorway run so they can cough all their dust out on the car behind. Tootling to the shops is not enough. Won't need a trip to Aberdeen but 10 mins will do.

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Lord BJ
22 minutes ago, Irufushi said:

Thrash hell out off it for a few miles, should hopefully clear the fault. Might get rid of engine light too .


This. 
 

I have had a couple Jaguar XF’s had the same issue with one. The issue occurred after about 6 months, car was bought from new. Went in garage to speak to them, guys asks me how long average journey was. I explain was very short as working only a few miles from office.

 

Guy pats me on the back and tells me to go out and drive the car as it’s meant to be driven. Take it on a reasonable journey and have some fun.

 

Problem solved. 
 

You think jags are bad you want to try upper end Italian cars manufacturers. They are a feet of engineering that no one can understand not even themselves. Costs me more to call the dealer than my solicitor!!!

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Spellczech
5 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


This. 
 

I have had a couple Jaguar XF’s had the same issue with one. The issue occurred after about 6 months, car was bought from new. Went in garage to speak to them, guys asks me how long average journey was. I explain was very short as working only a few miles from office.

 

Guy pats me on the back and tells me to go out and drive the car as it’s meant to be driven. Take it on a reasonable journey and have some fun.

 

Problem solved. 
 

You think jags are bad you want to try upper end Italian cars manufacturers. They are a feet of engineering that no one can understand not even themselves. Costs me more to call the dealer than my solicitor!!!

A common complaint from Hibbies that...

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BarneyBattles

Right. Feck it. It’s getting tanked down the Bypass / A1 tomorrow morning. 
 

If I don’t make it back in one piece I’ve left my framed FOH strip to kickback. 

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been here before
2 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

Right. Feck it. It’s getting tanked down the Bypass / A1 tomorrow morning. 
 

If I don’t make it back in one piece I’ve left my framed FOH strip to kickback. 

 

Let us know how you get on. Whats the worst that could happen?

 

Who said the lockdown couldnt be exciting!?

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EH11_2NL
Posted (edited)

Had an Audi A3 diesel that need the DPF changed and the car went into 'limp mode' a few times. Got it fixed at my usual local garage but the car was never the same again. The wife used it to pootle about at her work when it really needed a hefty boot in the baws once in a while. Put me off buying diesel again. Petrol automatic for me from now on. On top of that, my wife can't drive for keech either which doesn't help a DPF.

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obua
1 hour ago, BarneyBattles said:

Right. Feck it. It’s getting tanked down the Bypass / A1 tomorrow morning. 
 

If I don’t make it back in one piece I’ve left my framed FOH strip to kickback. 

I had all the warning lights on, garage checked the van over and he told me to hit the motorway. Edinburgh to Livingston and back done the trick. He explained the filter collects all the shit in town and blows it out on motorways where it’s less populated.

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Irufushi
2 hours ago, BarneyBattles said:


Seriously? 
 

It’s a decent car so if it was going to cost a (good) few hundred to fix I’d rather pay it than risk completely knackering it!

Yea , I’ve had I’d on my work van and had it once on my 5 series. Rev the nuts off it at lower speeds or tank along at 70mph on the motorway in 4th gear 👍

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Radio Ga Ga

Agree about taking it for a run, I’ve got a 2019 Range Rover and the handbook tells you when the light comes on to run it over 50 MPH for around 20 mins.

 

Due to the lockdown I’ve been only running back and forward to the supermarket this last couple of months and the light came on last weekend, a 15 mile run along the M8 cleared it. 

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redtipsjambo

Had same trouble with tiguan I had, journey to work was only 7 miles, when I realised was happening I never went higher than 4 gear for  small journeys ( keep the revs high) never had the bother again

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jonesy

Given my Toyota diesel a couple of 4th gear blasts on the bypass during lockdown to keep it fresh. Due another tomorrow. A couple of podcasts and a few laps of the bypass a good way of getting out of the routine of Joe Wicks and gardening!

 

Someone also recommended doing a DPF clear with a full to the brim tank. Not sure what difference it makes. 

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RS86

I had a VW Passat and to regen the DPD had to go on the motorway and boot it in 3rd/4th so the revs stayed high while it burned off the soot. Usually took about 5-10 mins for light to go off again.

 

I've had my Ford Galaxy for over a year now and never had any issues yet with DPF, but I like to boot it now and again as I know that blasts some soot out the back which must help.

 

Hopefully won't need replaced, as others have said can be £1000+ which is ridiculous IMO

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graygo

I've had the same issue with my car and had to burn the crap out like others have said.

I'll be looking for a "new" car when we get through the pandemic and tbh I'll probably be avoiding diesels because of this, my driving habits don't lend themselves to a diesel car with mainly short trips.

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Lord BJ
6 hours ago, graygo said:

I've had the same issue with my car and had to burn the crap out like others have said.

I'll be looking for a "new" car when we get through the pandemic and tbh I'll probably be avoiding diesels because of this, my driving habits don't lend themselves to a diesel car with mainly short trips.


Should consider electric if your just doing short journeys.

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graygo
1 hour ago, Lord BJ said:


Should consider electric if your just doing short journeys.

 

Mainly short journeys but would hate to be limited to 200 miles or whatever electric cars are capable of.

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BarneyBattles

Well that didn’t fekking work. Drove on the motorway for an hour and **** all happened. 
 

Garage it is. I’ll spend a fortune just to get the car back to how it was a week ago🙁🤮

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mutley
4 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

Well that didn’t fekking work. Drove on the motorway for an hour and **** all happened. 
 

Garage it is. I’ll spend a fortune just to get the car back to how it was a week ago🙁🤮

Were you in a lower gear than usual to keep the revs higher?

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micole
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

Well that didn’t fekking work. Drove on the motorway for an hour and **** all happened. 
 

Garage it is. I’ll spend a fortune just to get the car back to how it was a week ago🙁🤮

There are companies that do a DPF regen, around the £100 mark, maybe worth a try. Just a thought  google DPF regen Edinburgh( if that's where you live) and check out the results.

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BarneyBattles
14 minutes ago, mutley said:

Were you in a lower gear than usual to keep the revs higher?


It’s an Automatic mate so tried to slow down and then rev it up but I think it’s gone into limp mode so not as responsive as usual. 
 

Struggled to get above 3,000 revs. 

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BarneyBattles
8 minutes ago, micole said:

There are companies that do a DPF regen, around the £100 mark, maybe worth a try. Just a thought  google DPF regen Edinburgh( if that's where you live) and check out the results.


Thanks but got an engine light on too so will have to bite the bullet. 
 

I’ve used the garage (meadowfield motors in newtongrange) for a few years so I don’t think I’ll get ripped off. 

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Tott
5 hours ago, Lord BJ said:


Should consider electric if your just doing short journeys.

Like buying a mobile phone 25 years ago.

One day they will have it sorted it,but useless to the the average driver at the moment.

 

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Taffin
10 minutes ago, Tott said:

Like buying a mobile phone 25 years ago.

One day they will have it sorted it,but useless to the the average driver at the moment.

 

 

If they had charging points in the car park at my office I'd probably get one next time I'm in the market to change car. Well, if I could afford one, they're a bit pricey.

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Tott
32 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

If they had charging points in the car park at my office I'd probably get one next time I'm in the market to change car. Well, if I could afford one, they're a bit pricey.

  What if some poor sod's  dpf has packed  in and has abandonded there car in the charging bay.

 

!0/20 year's  time will be the norm,but just now too early for electric cars.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tott said:

  What if some poor sod's  dpf has packed  in and has abandonded there car in the charging bay.

 

!0/20 year's  time will be the norm,but just now too early for electric cars.

 

 

 

We have allocated bays 😎😎

 

But yes, it's a while away yet. Though given the amount of people driving diesels in city centres/doing low mileage, cars not designed for the user's needs doesn't seem to put people off😂 (not aimed at anyone this thread btw, obviously the current situation is a bit of an extenuating circumstance)

 

There was a girl on my Facebook complaining about land rover a while back as (and I paraphrase) 'they shouldn't sell cars that aren't for for purpose' in relation to her dpf...the purpose of a diesel 4wd of course being the city centre of Edinburgh...

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superjack

My last 2 cars are diesel. I drive 35 miles each way for work every day so never had a problem with my DPF. Been trying to explain to the wife why a diesel would be no use to her, as she only drives to town and back.

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Lord BJ
9 hours ago, Tott said:

Like buying a mobile phone 25 years ago.

One day they will have it sorted it,but useless to the the average driver at the moment.

 


Im not sure I agree, think it’s depends on your lifestyle. The range is about 300miles nowadays, that’s a greater range than I get on full tank of petrol in my main car. 

 

There are lots of charging stations about and to be honest I personally rarely do a journey of greater of 20 miles nowadays. I’m not sure I would even need to use one outside of my house. 
 

I don’t know what your average drivers habits are in fairness. 
 

The technology is definitely improving at a rapid rate but we are the stage where they are feasible for many. Part of the problem with the infrastructure is that won’t increase until uptake in electric increases. 
 

Next time I buy a car I’m very likely to make the switch. 

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Carl Fredrickson

I currently have a diesel and my last few cars were also diesel. Have a 12 mile commute along the A68 but did a lot of long weekend trips. 

 

Due to current circumstances my job will now be working from home full time unless a task requires me to go into the office. 

 

My current car is now 8 years old, I have had it for 5 and it is the most practical car I have ever had. Suits my lifestyle and has plenty of space. Will be sad to see it go but will run it until it drops. 

 

I would love an electric car but I do not have a driveway and there are no local charging points. I would need to run a cable from my house, through my front garden and over a public pavement to get to me car. 

 

Are hybreds any good? Do they still require to be charged or does driving using fuel charge the battery (thinking like  a dynamo for lights on bikes when I was wee)

 

 

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Ribble
4 minutes ago, jackal said:

Have you tried putting a DPF cleaner in?

 

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-and-fluids/fuel-and-oil-additives/wynns-diesel-particulate-filter-cleaner-325ml-325222.html

 

I havent used this but have used some of their other stuff.

 

DPF cleaners only work to an extent (basically reduces the temp at which soot will burn off) if your DPF is blocked with ash rather than soot then it has no effect. That said there is no harm in adding the DPF cleaner, especially just now where journeys are less frequent and shorter than usual.

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Hairdryer
On 20/05/2020 at 18:39, BarneyBattles said:

Not much of a car buff but got the car booked in to the garage on Friday as got a red warning message that the DPF is full ‘contact dealer’. 
 

Never got any amber warning saying it was regenerating. Went straight to red. 
 

Presume it will need replaced? If so, any idea of how much it will cost?

 

The car is a 4 year old jaguar xe 2l. I normally drive up to Aberdeen once every week or two but obviously not been doing that for the last 8 weeks. Could it be it just needs a good run on the motorway instead of The 1 mile to the shops Every couple of days I’ve been doing? 
 

Don’t really want to risk hammering it as the engine light is also on, albeit that’s amber not red. 
 

Thanks in advance for any advice. 

The fact you have never had a problem before and the filter is full now makes me

think the short journeys are the root of the problem maybe give the car a good run

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Owlvisiting

Mate of mine had his taken out, he's in Hull so every garage has someone who's up for 'a bung'. It's illegal but solves the problem apparently.

 

Mind it was a few years back so might not be appropriate on modern jam jars.

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BarneyBattles
46 minutes ago, Hairdryer said:

The fact you have never had a problem before and the filter is full now makes me

think the short journeys are the root of the problem maybe give the car a good run


Yeah. Most likely. Been going up to sheep land every week since I got the motor in December. 
 

Took it out for an hour last night on the motorway but no joy. Difficult to keep revs up in an automatic. 
 

It’s now in the garage. The guy was going to try to regenerate it, failing that it gets baked in an oven at some specialist place in Stirling for 8 hours, failing that can try to open it Clean it and weld it or buy a new one. 

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IronJambo
9 hours ago, Lord BJ said:


Im not sure I agree, think it’s depends on your lifestyle. The range is about 300miles nowadays, that’s a greater range than I get on full tank of petrol in my main car. 

 

There are lots of charging stations about and to be honest I personally rarely do a journey of greater of 20 miles nowadays. I’m not sure I would even need to use one outside of my house. 
 

I don’t know what your average drivers habits are in fairness. 
 

The technology is definitely improving at a rapid rate but we are the stage where they are feasible for many. Part of the problem with the infrastructure is that won’t increase until uptake in electric increases. 
 

Next time I buy a car I’m very likely to make the switch. 

They're really not the answer when such a large and growing number of people live in flats/apartments. They work for some I'm sure but not a large percentage of car drivers. 

Electric won't be the only option when it comes to it. Personal circumstances currently dictate that a leccy car is as useful to me as a welly boot with a hole in the toe. I can readress that in ten years time.

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davemclaren
19 hours ago, Owlvisiting said:

Mate of mine had his taken out, he's in Hull so every garage has someone who's up for 'a bung'. It's illegal but solves the problem apparently.

 

Mind it was a few years back so might not be appropriate on modern jam jars.

It does but it is illegal and you will fail an MOT. 

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On 23/05/2020 at 13:28, davemclaren said:

It does but it is illegal and you will fail an MOT. 

and possibly be prosecuted.

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Nookie Bear
On 20/05/2020 at 23:03, jonesy said:

Given my Toyota diesel a couple of 4th gear blasts on the bypass during lockdown to keep it fresh. Due another tomorrow. A couple of podcasts and a few laps of the bypass a good way of getting out of the routine of Joe Wicks and gardening!

 

Someone also recommended doing a DPF clear with a full to the brim tank. Not sure what difference it makes. 

 

Good idea that. Might take my diesel on the bypass for a blast tomorrow to do the same as it's either been sitting idle or tootling to the shops and back.

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Ribble

Got yellow engine light this morning, filled the tank and added the dpf cleaner, car stuck into sport mode and a blast along the a68 was enough to shift it

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jonesy
3 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Good idea that. Might take my diesel on the bypass for a blast tomorrow to do the same as it's either been sitting idle or tootling to the shops and back.

Might be a last chance before everyone starts clogging up the bypass again with their drives to work!

 

The bypass from start to finish with no traffic and a nice day is a fine drive. Even more fun when you’ve just got to blast your car a bit. And then remember all the times you’ve sat idling or crawling along at 2mph :(

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Tott
On 22/05/2020 at 08:36, Lord BJ said:


Im not sure I agree, think it’s depends on your lifestyle. The range is about 300miles nowadays, that’s a greater range than I get on full tank of petrol in my main car. 

 

There are lots of charging stations about and to be honest I personally rarely do a journey of greater of 20 miles nowadays. I’m not sure I would even need to use one outside of my house. 
 

I don’t know what your average drivers habits are in fairness. 
 

The technology is definitely improving at a rapid rate but we are the stage where they are feasible for many. Part of the problem with the infrastructure is that won’t increase until uptake in electric increases. 
 

Next time I buy a car I’m very likely to make the switch. 

300 miles range?

 

Must have a high performance car?

 

My car has a range over  750 miles,if  i dont hammer it.

When it runs out ,it take two minutes to refill.

My works van also has a range over 550 miles,can easily do 300 miles plus a day ,running low in fuel,stop anywhere ,refuel and on you go.

 

As i said,one day it will become the norm,maybe the norm is already  here for lighter use patrons of the road.

For average road usrs its cuurenntly not fit for purpose.

 

For us that  use the roads a lot is bloody uselless.

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Lord BJ
8 hours ago, Tott said:

300 miles range?

 

Must have a high performance car?

 

My car has a range over  750 miles,if  i dont hammer it.

When it runs out ,it take two minutes to refill.

My works van also has a range over 550 miles,can easily do 300 miles plus a day ,running low in fuel,stop anywhere ,refuel and on you go.

 

As i said,one day it will become the norm,maybe the norm is already  here for lighter use patrons of the road.

For average road usrs its cuurenntly not fit for purpose.

 

For us that  use the roads a lot is bloody uselless.


Yeah I do. You get less than 20mpg if you drive it perfectly and have the thing in eco mode. Drive anything from perfect it drops quickly, stick in the performances modes it below drops 10mpg. I have had less than 5 mpg on journeys 😂
 

It’s great fun though. 
 

Yeah get what your saying and I accept I’m probably pretty light user in comparison to your average driver. I certainly could make the switch and it make no difference to me. I might even help the environment out slightly more than I currently do 😞

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BarneyBattles

In case you’re interested, dpf was clogged with soot. 
 

Garage did a ‘forced regen’ And cleaned it all out. 
 

£162 in total (which Included £36 for a fuel additive). I was delighted with That given I thought it might be over a grand if a new one was required. 
 

Mechanic said give it a run for an hour a week and add fuel additive every 2 or 3 tanks. 

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gjcc
2 hours ago, BarneyBattles said:

In case you’re interested, dpf was clogged with soot. 
 

Garage did a ‘forced regen’ And cleaned it all out. 
 

£162 in total (which Included £36 for a fuel additive). I was delighted with That given I thought it might be over a grand if a new one was required. 
 

Mechanic said give it a run for an hour a week and add fuel additive every 2 or 3 tanks. 


Weekly trip to Barnard Casle?

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milky_26
On 25/05/2020 at 08:36, Lord BJ said:


Yeah I do. You get less than 20mpg if you drive it perfectly and have the thing in eco mode. Drive anything from perfect it drops quickly, stick in the performances modes it below drops 10mpg. I have had less than 5 mpg on journeys 😂
 

It’s great fun though. 
 

Yeah get what your saying and I accept I’m probably pretty light user in comparison to your average driver. I certainly could make the switch and it make no difference to me. I might even help the environment out slightly more than I currently do 😞

What car is it you have? 

 

My 27mpg I thought was bad

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