Pasquale for King Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, jambogaza said: Contact tracing technology to be piloted in Fife, Highlands and Lanarkshire from tomorrow. That’s good but it should’ve been started weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehllhayapeh Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/mexicos-demolition-derby-accelerates/?fbclid=IwAR11qr1T7aW2h_kmUoXVGkvfFaQai0sP8oZ8Ktf07mJ7U4m9BlmJmbsuOCk Sadly accurate article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: That’s good but it should’ve been started weeks ago. Agreed although it points to an easing of lockdown in an orderly and managed way, which feels a lot better than the chaos that ensued last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, jambogaza said: Agreed although it points to an easing of lockdown in an orderly and managed way, which feels a lot better than the chaos that ensued last week. Absolutely. The UK government has said they won’t continue the furlough scheme longer up here if we have to delay the easing of the lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Hamilton is the biggest crook in Scotland. 😂 true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Copied from a post on UK Polling report - where the UK stands comparatively Number tested positive: 4th Number of deaths: 2nd Deaths/million: 4th Population: 21st Out of 87 countries reporting new cases yesterday, and omitting 3 below 1M population: New cases yesterday: 6th New deaths yesterday: 3rd New cases/million yesterday: 15th Out of all the nations that reported new deaths yesterday (87), and omitting those with population under one million (3): New Deaths per Million reported yesterday, ranked in order, all those above average (23 of 84): 1st – 6.90 – UK 2nd – 5.34 – Ecuador 3rd – 3.98 – Peru 4th – 3.97 – Belgium 5th – 3.84 – Brazil 6th – 3.68 – USA 7th – 3.10 – Canada 8th – 3.04 – Ireland 9th – 2.78 – Sweden 10th – 2.58 – Kuwait 11th – 2.53 – Italy 12th – 2.25 – Mexico 13th – 2.22 – Spain 14th – 1.58 – Netherlands 15th – 1.47 – France 16th – 1.41 – Chile 17th – 1.39 – Panama 18th – 1.27 – Portugal 19th – 1.25 – Romania 20th – 1.24 – Moldova 21st – 1.04 – Denmark 22nd – 1.03 – Bolivia 23rd – 1.01 – Armenia The latest stats Edited May 17, 2020 by scott herbertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Karol Sikora going big on the optimism... https://mobile.twitter.com/profkarolsikora/status/1261578426093383682 Blind optimism? Evidence based observation? Doing the bidding of someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 500 patients getting treated with blood plasma from cured covid survivors tomorrow in the UK. It was reported over the weekend that the treatment has been a success in other countries. Sounds promising. Might have a treatment before a vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: 500 patients getting treated with blood plasma from cured covid survivors tomorrow in the UK. It was reported over the weekend that the treatment has been a success in other countries. Sounds promising. Might have a treatment before a vaccine Here's hoping. Although this is a worldwide tragedy, I do find some excitement in watching the pace of scientific research with all resources being directed towards this globally. A major breakthrough cannot be far away now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Who’s this utter ***** on bbc1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whatever said: Who’s this utter ***** on bbc1? Retired supreme court judge. Lord Sumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Victorian said: Retired supreme court judge. Lord Sumption. A *****. That’s what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Question from the public Why are France exempt from quarentine measures when entering the UK? Answer. We want to keep the R rate down. Boris has spoken to Macron and they'll announce info if and when they have it. Really helpful answer to a basic question that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Spellczech said: Wasn't aware people with disabilities were any more affected by Covid than the rest of us TBH? The number of teachers who live with people with weak immune systems cannot be huge surely or any bugs they brought home previously would've been a problem? I get the impression a lot of whataboutery is either people seeking attention, politically-motivated or just simply wanting to be seen as a special case...(Last comment is not a criticism of you - I realise you are playing devil's advocate and that this is a discussion, but Boris was actually correct in saying that people have to apply common sense...) " Common sense" and the British public dont go together...one word... Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Question from the public Why are France exempt from quarentine measures when entering the UK? Answer. We want to keep the R rate down. Boris has spoken to Macron and they'll announce info if and when they have it. Really helpful answer to a basic question that. i thought they had removed the exemption for france? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Schools leading the agenda again. Be interesting to see how many schools open or how many kids turn upon 1st June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i thought they had removed the exemption for france? I think it only comes into play when and if the government actually take control of the country's borders. Edit: some journalist just asked when they'd be removing the 14 day quarantine on inbound flights that they haven't even introduced yet. Edited May 17, 2020 by The Mighty Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The UK briefings are now like a game of Where's Wally. Where's Chris? Where's Patrick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Victorian said: Karol Sikora going big on the optimism... https://mobile.twitter.com/profkarolsikora/status/1261578426093383682 Blind optimism? Evidence based observation? Doing the bidding of someone else? He's at it. Total shill from day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Taffin said: Nobody should be forcibly made to inject/ingest something into their body that they don't want to. Obviously they should want to but it should remain their choice imo. What about other people’s rights not to catch the virus? As far as I’m concerned, peoples right to ‘not want to die’ trumps the anti-vaxxers rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, jambo89 said: What about other people’s rights not to catch the virus? As far as I’m concerned, peoples right to ‘not want to die’ trumps the anti-vaxxers rights. I'm not suggesting those who want vaccinated against things can't be 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm not suggesting those who want vaccinated against things can't be 🤷🏻♂️ Yip, or is he saying the vaccine is a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jambo89 said: What about other people’s rights not to catch the virus? As far as I’m concerned, peoples right to ‘not want to die’ trumps the anti-vaxxers rights. Why would it matter if there's a vaccine? Edited May 17, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, jambo89 said: What about other people’s rights not to catch the virus? As far as I’m concerned, peoples right to ‘not want to die’ trumps the anti-vaxxers rights. This is where science should guide. I think a lot of the anti vaccine sentiment in the US can also be linked with the distrust of the healthcare system. It doesnt seem to have such a following here maybe that's because we trust our health service more. I do honestly think there are valid concerns regarding vaccination in the states and the relation with those who supply it. Maybe someone who lives there can say if I'm off the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Yip, or is he saying the vaccine is a waste of time. No idea. I'm also not sure people have a right not to catch a virus. I'm not anti-vax by any means, but I don't believe anyone should have it forced upon them if they don't want it...regardless of how mental people may think their reasoning is. The flip side of that is they shouldn't be able to prevent others getting vaccinated for things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: No idea. I'm also not sure people have a right not to catch a virus. I'm not anti-vax by any means, but I don't believe anyone should have it forced upon them if they don't want it...regardless of how mental people may think their reasoning is. The flip side of that is they shouldn't be able to prevent others getting vaccinated for things. I would think enough people would take the vaccine in order to wipe it out. Even if 10% didn't take it, what's the chances of them wiping each other out. Edited May 17, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 PPE supply still a problem. R rate still worryingly high. Infections and hospitalisations falling but only slowly. NHS only just about still coping. Deaths falling off a bit quicker, which is the only ray of light. Bonkers that the hawks in the Cabinet are pressing ahead with a reckless "back to work, plebs" policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Anti-vaxxers should be classed as criminals under biological weapons laws. There is no justification for refusing a vaccine as long as it has undergone the correct testing procedures. Choosing to become an unshielded carrier of a deadly disease because "mah freedums" is the most irresponsible thing I can think of. Smallpox was globally eradicated by non-optional vaccination and it now only exists in government labs. Type 3 and Type 2 Polio have also been eradicated and Type 1 is close to joining them. Measles, Mumps and Rubella are heading that way too. Maybe we can put all the anti-vaxxers on the Isle of Wight, blockade the ports and feed them via airdrops. Can't have these ticking biological time bombs in the general population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Honestly think the chances of catching Covid 19 now in the Lothians are so slim that if you did then you would have to have been actively seeking a confirmed coronavirus case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theme From Sparta F.C. Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 While watching footage of the Bundesliga, i noticed that a lot of the staff are wearing face masks with their teams club badge / logo on them. Could this be a possible product idea for us? We're all now being asked to wear a mask on public transport, and when we go shopping. When football gets back up and running here, we're probably going to have to wear a mask at Tynie. So why not a Hearts mask? To me it's win / win. We'd be showing our support for our Club, and help to stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Honestly think the chances of catching Covid 19 now in the Lothians are so slim that if you did then you would have to have been actively seeking a confirmed coronavirus case. I know. Makes me wonder too. If only they could offer testing of the anti body and also the general test then we would know how many are definately affected or have had it. It could be surprisingly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshades Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Finding a supplier might be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Wearing colours is for under 12s according to this place. Would make you look a right tit wearing that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: I know. Makes me wonder too. If only they could offer testing of the anti body and also the general test then we would know how many are definately affected or have had it. It could be surprisingly low. The Roche antibody test has been passed by public health England. Scotland are yet to pass it. I see England have also now passed a test by Abbott Edited May 17, 2020 by Nucky Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Dundee United already have branded face masks. Not sure I would wear a football one... maybe only if we were required to inside Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Each to their own I suppose, I just couldn’t see myself ever wearing a surgical mask with a Hearts badge on it. Seems a bit next level jammie wearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Seen quite a few of these on the go, especially on RedBubble. Just search masks, and you can find pretty much anything https://www.redbubble.com/shop/?iaCode=u-mask Could probably get a Hearts one printed if you like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Cade said: Anti-vaxxers should be classed as criminals under biological weapons laws. There is no justification for refusing a vaccine as long as it has undergone the correct testing procedures. Choosing to become an unshielded carrier of a deadly disease because "mah freedums" is the most irresponsible thing I can think of. Smallpox was globally eradicated by non-optional vaccination and it now only exists in government labs. Type 3 and Type 2 Polio have also been eradicated and Type 1 is close to joining them. Measles, Mumps and Rubella are heading that way too. Maybe we can put all the anti-vaxxers on the Isle of Wight, blockade the ports and feed them via airdrops. Can't have these ticking biological time bombs in the general population. Like it or not. Some people die as a result of vaccines because of unknown conditions or allergys. I'm definitely not an anti vaxxer but if someone wants to weigh up the miniscule risk of dieing from the vaccine vs the significantly higher risk of dieing from the disease it seeks to shield you from and comes down on the side of the disease then let them. And let their anti vaxxer friends get infected by them as well. If you are immune then why care about if they aren't? Edited May 17, 2020 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedarmy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shanks said: Each to their own I suppose, I just couldn’t see myself ever wearing a surgical mask with a Hearts badge on it. Seems a bit next level jammie wearer. looks like millwall were ahead of their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinref Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Edinburgh-Hearts-FC-Scarf-Thermal-Elastic-Snood-Fleece-Neck-Warmer-Outdoor Edited May 17, 2020 by kevinref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Like it or not. Some people die as a result of vaccines because of unknown conditions or allergys. I'm definitely not an anti vaxxer but if someone wants to weigh up the miniscule risk of dieing from the vaccine vs the significantly higher risk of dieing from the disease it seeks to shield you from and comes down on the side of the disease then let them. And let their anti vaxxer friends get infected by them as well. If you are immune then why care about if they aren't? My laddie is allergic to the Tetanus jag, he had a severe reaction when he got the jag as part of his pre-school inoculations, doctor said he can't have another tetanus jag, not even a booster, due to the reaction he had to the first one, and they have no idea why his body reacted the way it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, kevinref said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Edinburgh-Hearts-FC-Scarf-Thermal-Elastic-Snood-Fleece-Neck-Warmer-Outdoor I wonder if they look as good in real life Hearts have been selling those type of things in the shop for a couple of years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said: The UK briefings are now like a game of Where's Wally. Where's Chris? Where's Patrick? Going the same way as the US ones by the sounds of it the advisors more and more shoved into the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, Cade said: PPE supply still a problem. R rate still worryingly high. Infections and hospitalisations falling but only slowly. NHS only just about still coping. Deaths falling off a bit quicker, which is the only ray of light. Bonkers that the hawks in the Cabinet are pressing ahead with a reckless "back to work, plebs" policy. All those personal business and investments interests have to be looked after. A lot of otherwise wealthy people have lost a chunk of their wealth because of this. Only a tiny number of extremely powerful, influential people are in the position to apply pressure to force the economy to be the prime consideration. When the people handling the epidemiological considerations have a lot of personal wealth at risk, there becomes a conflict of interests. Certainly a potential conflict. Being wealthy is not a crime. Being in power is not a crime. Being wealthy and in power is not a crime. But certain, cataclysmic events lay bare the conflict of interests, which should be remembered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: My laddie is allergic to the Tetanus jag, he had a severe reaction when he got the jag as part of his pre-school inoculations, doctor said he can't have another tetanus jag, not even a booster, due to the reaction he had to the first one, and they have no idea why his body reacted the way it did. Sorry. Mandatory vaccinations say he MUST get the jab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, been here before said: I wonder if they look as good in real life Hearts have been selling those type of things in the shop for a couple of years now. I've been using one of the Hearts "snood" things as a mask when I've been going out. Can't find it on the club store, but it looks like this: With Hearts badges on it. Is it effective? Probably not, but it's better than nothing, as it's a good face covering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, tian447 said: I've been using one of the Hearts "snood" things as a mask when I've been going out. Can't find it on the club store, but it looks like this: With Hearts badges on it. Is it effective? Probably not, but it's better than nothing, as it's a good face covering Ive got a couple that Ive used for cycling in the winter time for the last few years. £1.50 a pop from Decathlon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, hughesie27 said: Sorry. Mandatory vaccinations say he MUST get the jab! Yeh and if it were mandatory he'd probably have died if he'd been forced to have the second one or a booster. As you said, some people can and do have allergic reactions to vaccines or medicines, penicillin being one such drug, fortunately it's rare but it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Honestly think the chances of catching Covid 19 now in the Lothians are so slim that if you did then you would have to have been actively seeking a confirmed coronavirus case. That's great but we want it to stay like that and that's how it needs to be done slowly.She is announcing plans on Tuesday seemingly so things will start moving after that.Probably along the lines of the Welsh and Northern Ireland more than the England's but I reckon withing the month all the UK will be pretty much similar in the approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: That's great but we want it to stay like that and that's how it needs to be done slowly.She is announcing plans on Tuesday seemingly so things will start moving after that.Probably along the lines of the Welsh and Northern Ireland more than the England's but I reckon withing the month all the UK will be pretty much similar in the approach. Exactly, we have all come to far and sacrificed so much for it all to be thrown away by being hasty and impatient, just hold on a bit longer, because I think we all or certainly most folks realise that if we come out of this lockdown to quick and we get a second spike, then the potential lockdown which will follow will be a real lockdown the likes of which Italy & Spain had where you weren't even allowed out to excercise. Edited May 17, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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