The Real Maroonblood Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, John mcCartney said: 31st is a week on Sunday Surely there will be a gathering at the Plaza to celebrate the day that the ogre leaves the club. 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 17 hours ago, 7628mm said: You have to wonder if "suggestions" on 14/05/2020 from some posters may have been just a tad early. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that CL is still "working his magic". https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-release-daniel-baur-and-kelby-mason-squad-restructure-begins-2860454 Still, only another 10 days to go. What could possibly go wrong? Ann wouldn’t make another disastrous decision with Levein ? Or would she. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: Ann wouldn’t make another disastrous decision with Levein ? Or would she. 🤪 Would not surprise me in the slightest. Maybe some sort of consultant role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Who do we bring in first, a sporting director or a new manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Could furlough them both at £2.5k a month on a month to month basis fixed term renewal basis. Just to be nice, funded by the Govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: We still have a manager, the link that says we were getting rid of Baur and Mason also said Moore and Brandon were offered new contracts, surely that’s at Stendels request? Is it - and is he staying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said: Is it - and is he staying? It’s all up in the air isn’t it? We might not know for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, mitch41 said: Ann wouldn’t make another disastrous decision with Levein ? Or would she. 🤪 Nothing that happens just now with Hearts surprises me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: Who do we bring in first, a sporting director or a new manager? I would have thought that a Sporting Director would be first in the door and have a hand in selecting the next Manager assuming DS is not coming back. It makes sense this way as they will be working closely together and a SD with lots of good contacts might tempt a decent Manager to come to us. It's important they can work well together and identify the right players for the team to fit the style of play. We have seen what happens when you don't have this continuity as happened when Stendel came in. He wanted to play a certain style and he soon realised we did not have the type of players capable of playing his way so we ended up with a mish mash of some of his style and a compromise to suit some of the players. The result being some good attacking play with a poor defensive record and still bottom of the league even if the style looked better we were still not getting the results. If Stendel stays then he should have a hand in the selection process for a Sporting Director in my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I would have thought that a Sporting Director would be first in the door and have a hand in selecting the next Manager assuming DS is not coming back. It makes sense this way as they will be working closely together and a SD with lots of good contacts might tempt a decent Manager to come to us. It's important they can work well together and identify the right players for the team to fit the style of play. We have seen what happens when you don't have this continuity as happened when Stendel came in. He wanted to play a certain style and he soon realised we did not have the type of players capable of playing his way so we ended up with a mish mash of some of his style and a compromise to suit some of the players. The result being some good attacking play with a poor defensive record and still bottom of the league even if the style looked better we were still not getting the results. If Stendel stays then he should have a hand in the selection process for a Sporting Director in my humble opinion. I agree with all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Only 2 more sleeps for me until they are gone. Don't know how levein can live with himself for hanging on for 5 months after Stendel took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Only 2 more sleeps for me until they are gone. Don't know how levein can live with himself for hanging on for 5 months after Stendel took over. I thought you were only 12 hours or so ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said: I thought you were only 12 hours or so ahead? Yes, but he sleeps for 3 days at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Worthing Jambo said: I thought you were only 12 hours or so ahead? You're right. I got ahead of myself. Thought it was 25th May. Wishful thinking. 8 more sleeps. Blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthing Jambo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: You're right. I got ahead of myself. Thought it was 25th May. Wishful thinking. 8 more sleeps. Blast. 😂 I thought I had missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Can’t wait until these gaping fuds are gone, especially McFraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Austin Macphee has contacts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Austin Macphee has contacts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Never seen him in glasses tbf His contacts are... Michael O’Neill er..... that’s it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, MTS1874 said: Who do we bring in first, a sporting director or a new manager? Takis Fyssis or Thomas Flogel as SD Robbo as manager assisted by Andy Kirk Naismith as player-coach Skacel as technical coach Craig Gordon as player-goalie coach Make it happen Ann! Edited May 22, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Takis Fyssis or Thomas Flogel as SD Robbo as manager assisted by Andy Kirk Naismith as player-coach Skacel as technical coach Craig Gordon as player-goalie coach Make it happen Ann! Nah, **** Naismith off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Nah, **** Naismith off. He will stroll the Championship , and will be the driving forcr to bring us straight back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, fila said: He will stroll the Championship , and will be the driving forcr to bring us straight back up He's probably also the closest we'll ever have to a "does what he likes" player like Scott Brown. He gets into the oppositions faces, riles them, argues with refs and, mostly, gets away with it. He stood on a Celtic player and verbally abused another after he'd fouled him. Don't recall Hearts having a player like that in my time. Edited May 23, 2020 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, fila said: He will stroll the Championship , and will be the driving forcr to bring us straight back up He’s been the polar opposite of a driving force. Hasn’t provided any leadership from what I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The more I think about the quality but most importantly the quantity of signings the more suspicious I become. Will renew once I'm sure hes gone. That more money was thrown at him for this season was criminal. Would like some kind of review ,a right good look at what is piss take incompetence or worse if I'm honest about how I feel regarding transfers. 36 of a squad and your lucky if theres 2 of them can run the length of Tynecastle In under a week. And the ridiculous turnover .I've lost count . Its infuriating really and beyond belief that we as a support watched this serving up of shite and put up with it. There has to be minimum standards set for managers at Hearts from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 13 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Takis Fyssis or Thomas Flogel as SD Robbo as manager assisted by Andy Kirk Naismith as player-coach Skacel as technical coach Craig Gordon as player-goalie coach Make it happen Ann! Ask QoS fans about Naismith. managerialy like a young Levein.mind numbing defensive football 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: He’s been the polar opposite of a driving force. Hasn’t provided any leadership from what I can see Playing in team of inept twats, and he still drives the team forward . He will stroll it in a lower league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 14 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Takis Fyssis or Thomas Flogel as SD Robbo as manager assisted by Andy Kirk Naismith as player-coach Skacel as technical coach Craig Gordon as player-goalie coach Make it happen Ann! Locky in charge of the Ultras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, braveheart said: Ask QoS fans about Naismith. managerialy like a young Levein.mind numbing defensive football 🤮 Think the poster was referring to Steven Naismith, not Gary Naysmith (former QoS manager). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 There seems to be a complete lack of realism regarding finance on this thread and possible candidates for various positions at the club As it stands we are relegated/expelled with a danger of even the championship not being a full season...already we estimated a £3million loss and it could be worse yet people want big names , extra staff to replace those gone madness We have no need for a sporting director next season in the championship..you can look at one if in the top league but a waste of money in the lower leagues We should work on a basic staff and if they have to do more for a year then tough...they will know there are no jobs for them outside our club Players need to leave and that may be because they want to and those requests will have to be considered whether we want to or not..we need at least 10 out from our bloated squad. Oh and what we do need to do is look at the recruitment side with a microscope given its recent lack of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, Fraggle said: Think the poster was referring to Steven Naismith, not Gary Naysmith (former QoS manager). I thought they were talking about Jason!?! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy frog Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I wonder if hoddit and doddit will be having a leaving do? I bet they get a few quid in their collection eh. I'll certainly be having a ****ing gaff party to celebrate on 1st Jun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, CJGJ said: There seems to be a complete lack of realism regarding finance on this thread and possible candidates for various positions at the club As it stands we are relegated/expelled with a danger of even the championship not being a full season...already we estimated a £3million loss and it could be worse yet people want big names , extra staff to replace those gone madness We have no need for a sporting director next season in the championship..you can look at one if in the top league but a waste of money in the lower leagues We should work on a basic staff and if they have to do more for a year then tough...they will know there are no jobs for them outside our club Players need to leave and that may be because they want to and those requests will have to be considered whether we want to or not..we need at least 10 out from our bloated squad. Oh and what we do need to do is look at the recruitment side with a microscope given its recent lack of success Yip. The news about new and increased pledges to the FoH is great and will see us ok (compared to others in the Championship) but fans shouldn't expect us to be splashing the dosh on wholesale changes when there will be next to no other revenue streams in that shite league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, CJGJ said: There seems to be a complete lack of realism regarding finance on this thread and possible candidates for various positions at the club As it stands we are relegated/expelled with a danger of even the championship not being a full season...already we estimated a £3million loss and it could be worse yet people want big names , extra staff to replace those gone madness We have no need for a sporting director next season in the championship..you can look at one if in the top league but a waste of money in the lower leagues We should work on a basic staff and if they have to do more for a year then tough...they will know there are no jobs for them outside our club Players need to leave and that may be because they want to and those requests will have to be considered whether we want to or not..we need at least 10 out from our bloated squad. Oh and what we do need to do is look at the recruitment side with a microscope given its recent lack of success Think I would take an axe to the recruitment side before a microscope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 No wonder the review of the football department never appeared. One word would have been ample to describe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 7 hours ago, braveheart said: Ask QoS fans about Naismith. managerialy like a young Levein.mind numbing defensive football 🤮 I'm talking about Steven Naismith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: No wonder the review of the football department never appeared. One word would have been ample to describe it. Exactly Franny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 7 hours ago, braveheart said: Ask QoS fans about Naismith. managerialy like a young Levein.mind numbing defensive football 🤮 Ooops...🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Mcphee will always have the fact he can speak a sentence or two of Japanese, proved to be a priceless asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Sooner the better. Happy for them to slip away without any fanfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Numbers Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 On 22/05/2020 at 14:28, mitch41 said: Ann wouldn’t make another disastrous decision with Levein ? Or would she. 🤪 You know what? I have had this horrible suspicion/dread for a while, that the reason he is still hanging around is because if we are indeed expelled into the Championship, and Stendel leaves, then Levein will see it as an opportunity to become the returning hero and bring Hearts back to the Premiership. Unlikely I know, but weirder things have happened. I just can't understand why he's still here, and AB's trust in him is very likely to sway her decision making I'd reckon. Suspect she'd also see it as justifying her decision to keep him around. God I hope it's just working through the lockdown getting to me!!!! Nothing surprises me any more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Magic Numbers said: You know what? I have had this horrible suspicion/dread for a while, that the reason he is still hanging around is because if we are indeed expelled into the Championship, and Stendel leaves, then Levein will see it as an opportunity to become the returning hero and bring Hearts back to the Premiership. Unlikely I know, but weirder things have happened. I just can't understand why he's still here, and AB's trust in him is very likely to sway her decision making I'd reckon. Suspect she'd also see it as justifying her decision to keep him around. God I hope it's just working through the lockdown getting to me!!!! Nothing surprises me any more... On the flip side (pure guess here) She kept both on because it was far more expensive to terminate their contracts immediately then to run them down. She's a business owner after all. Neither will be anywhere near Hearts after this month. She's not that stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Magic Numbers said: You know what? I have had this horrible suspicion/dread for a while, that the reason he is still hanging around is because if we are indeed expelled into the Championship, and Stendel leaves, then Levein will see it as an opportunity to become the returning hero and bring Hearts back to the Premiership. Unlikely I know, but weirder things have happened. I just can't understand why he's still here, and AB's trust in him is very likely to sway her decision making I'd reckon. Suspect she'd also see it as justifying her decision to keep him around. God I hope it's just working through the lockdown getting to me!!!! Nothing surprises me any more... He may well turn up at Raith, Cowdenbeath or Dunfermline if he's still got the stomach for management or as a DoF and would probably do quite well. We won't see him at Hearts again in an official position though. He's hardly likely to be made an ambassador like Robbo or Locke 😅 Although that would be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 22/05/2020 at 16:52, wavydavy said: I would have thought that a Sporting Director would be first in the door and have a hand in selecting the next Manager assuming DS is not coming back. It makes sense this way as they will be working closely together and a SD with lots of good contacts might tempt a decent Manager to come to us. It's important they can work well together and identify the right players for the team to fit the style of play. We have seen what happens when you don't have this continuity as happened when Stendel came in. He wanted to play a certain style and he soon realised we did not have the type of players capable of playing his way so we ended up with a mish mash of some of his style and a compromise to suit some of the players. The result being some good attacking play with a poor defensive record and still bottom of the league even if the style looked better we were still not getting the results. If Stendel stays then he should have a hand in the selection process for a Sporting Director in my humble opinion. If we're appointing a sporting director then the manager should have no say in it. The club should be appointing a sporting director who they feel is the best at what they want from the role and not just because the manager knows him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: If we're appointing a sporting director then the manager should have no say in it. The club should be appointing a sporting director who they feel is the best at what they want from the role and not just because the manager knows him. If we need to make cutbacks in this desperate virus era surely the Sporting Director job needs to be shelved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Cruickshank for Scotland said: If we need to make cutbacks in this desperate virus era surely the Sporting Director job needs to be shelved? Well aye I would think so. I don't expect us to be appointing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: He may well turn up at Raith, Cowdenbeath or Dunfermline if he's still got the stomach for management or as a DoF and would probably do quite well. We won't see him at Hearts again in an official position though. He's hardly likely to be made an ambassador like Robbo or Locke 😅 Although that would be funny. After his disastrous tenure at Hearts where he completely lost the plot, why do you think he could “do quite well” anywhere? He’s a busted flush! Maybe he could be appointed special envoy for all his fanboys - now that would be funny! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ari Gold said: If we're appointing a sporting director then the manager should have no say in it. The club should be appointing a sporting director who they feel is the best at what they want from the role and not just because the manager knows him. I have to disagree. My main reason is that AB and her Board have shown a complete and utter ignorance about the footballing side of Hearts FC and need help in appointing the right person for such an important job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: He may well turn up at Raith, Cowdenbeath or Dunfermline if he's still got the stomach for management or as a DoF and would probably do quite well. We won't see him at Hearts again in an official position though. He's hardly likely to be made an ambassador like Robbo or Locke 😅 Although that would be funny. Funny, hardly think so it would be a disaster and an insult to the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: If we need to make cutbacks in this desperate virus era surely the Sporting Director job needs to be shelved? You would think so during these challenging times. However, Budge could maybe turn to Mr Jim for assistance if ever needed. He would be a great guy to have on board maybe in some sort of consultancy role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, wavydavy said: I have to disagree. My main reason is that AB and her Board have shown a complete and utter ignorance about the footballing side of Hearts FC and need help in appointing the right person for such an important job. I can't disagree with that point on the whole. However if we are going down the Sporting Director route then they should be making football decisions - hiring a manager. But as you say we do need to find someone who can find a decent sporting director! If a manager is trusted to make decisions then he should be bringing in his own scout rather than a sporting director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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