muldoon74 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Saturday afternoon, 2pm bbc1. This has become my Saturday football fix during lockdown. (I'm off every Saturday). The 1 question that has arisen from watching this is... How the hell have Holland never won a world Cup? They've had some cracking teams over the years but just haven't been able to do it when it matters. Incredibly gifted individuals aswell but individuals who can play as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory78 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, muldoon74 said: Saturday afternoon, 2pm bbc1. This has become my Saturday football fix during lockdown. (I'm off every Saturday). The 1 question that has arisen from watching this is... How the hell have Holland never won a world Cup? They've had some cracking teams over the years but just haven't been able to do it when it matters. Incredibly gifted individuals aswell but individuals who can play as a team. Watched the Holland Argentina game from 98 Bergkamp at his best 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Love to watch all the old games...happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Is the England v Scotland game from Euro96 not on today? The morra at 645pm on ITV4. Edited May 16, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon74 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, rory78 said: Watched the Holland Argentina game from 98 Bergkamp at his best 👍 Some shot from Batistuta off the post.. Also, exactly the sort of team I'm talking snout. Bergkamp, kluivert, both de boers, numan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 hours ago, muldoon74 said: Saturday afternoon, 2pm bbc1. This has become my Saturday football fix during lockdown. (I'm off every Saturday). The 1 question that has arisen from watching this is... How the hell have Holland never won a world Cup? They've had some cracking teams over the years but just haven't been able to do it when it matters. Incredibly gifted individuals aswell but individuals who can play as a team. Defence! Over the years, always a bit fragile at the back when put under real pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Been enjoying the rewind games.. 82 world cup was fantastic. Games must have kicked of around 4.00 pm Always seemed to be on when i got in from school. Brazil v Italy ( 1/4 finals?) Probably one of the best games of football i had ever watched. Like everybody else in those days,was gutted when Brazil got beat,but that was a n exciting itaiian side to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Tott said: Been enjoying the rewind games.. 82 world cup was fantastic. Games must have kicked of around 4.00 pm Always seemed to be on when i got in from school. Brazil v Italy ( 1/4 finals?) Probably one of the best games of football i had ever watched. Like everybody else in those days,was gutted when Brazil got beat,but that was a n exciting itaiian side to watch. 38 years on and there's still a part of me that can't quite believe Brazil didn't win that World Cup. It felt inevitable at the time. The Italy 3 Brazil 2 game is probably still the best football match I've ever seen on TV. The Italians, ultimately, deserved to win the trophy after that win. Edited May 17, 2020 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Holland bricked it in the 2010 final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Tuned in during Eng-Col ... how good did it look! Just the grass I mean; christ I almost jizzed in my underpants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Hi Scotland v Brazil 1974 get the youngsters to watch this. BBC Scotland hd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, norrie1952 said: Hi Scotland v Brazil 1974 get the youngsters to watch this. BBC Scotland hd. Live here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000jlfx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, norrie1952 said: Hi Scotland v Brazil 1974 get the youngsters to watch this. BBC Scotland hd. Billy Bremner did he no sclaff the baw just past the post in that game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 God Save the Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Settling down to enjoy it seems like yesterday Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, norrie1952 said: Settling down to enjoy it seems like yesterday Haha Yes Amazing isn't it. My favourite Scotland game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Yes Amazing isn't it. My favourite Scotland game. It certainly is my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAlvasection Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Brazil aren't messing about with the tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Weakened Offender said: Holland bricked it in the 2010 final. They were a whisker away though - that save late on from Casillas with his foot was incredible. In truth though Holland did well to make the final in 2010. The team that won the Euros in 1988 was incredible - they never had a better chance than with the likes of Rijkaard, Van Basten and Gullit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, stirlo said: They were a whisker away though - that save late on from Casillas with his foot was incredible. In truth though Holland did well to make the final in 2010. The team that won the Euros in 1988 was incredible - they never had a better chance than with the likes of Rijkaard, Van Basten and Gullit. Hit the post in last minute of 90 before extra time versus Argentina in 78 was closest Holland got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Angel eyes said: Billy Bremner did he no sclaff the baw just past the post in that game? He did , I’m sure it was Arthur Montford who was commentating and said “ oh Billy how could you ?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It’s a strange starting position David Harvey takes up at corner kicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Cracking tackle from Billy bremner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If only Scotland had a team like that now .🏴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 What was the final score here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Homme said: What was the final score here? 0-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Harvey was a great goalkeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAlvasection Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Been all over them the second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Jardine and Hay were especially good. Bremner, Morgan, Holton, McGrain, Buchan good as well. Referee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, Crete said: If only Scotland had a team like that now .🏴 What's the point of dwelling on the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Nobody we have now would get into that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgecowie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I was only 3 at the time but I must have backed over the bookings. The guy pereira played the referee very well, to be generous. Good watch, didn't realise davie hay was so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 We found a new way to fail in 74, knocked out in the first round and unbeaten in our 3 games. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: He did , I’m sure it was Arthur Montford who was commentating and said “ oh Billy how could you ?” The Zaire manager was a Yugoslav. 9-0 they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, graygo said: We found a new way to fail in 74, knocked out in the first round and unbeaten in our 3 games. ☹️ It’s mental. Only lost 1 goal as well. What a team that was though. When Lorimer hit the ball it stayed hit. Bremner bossed it. Jordan won everything in the air. Shame Harvey didn’t hold the gloves for longer, because for me Scotland’s decline dovetailed with Rough becoming number 1. I work with a Thistle fan who keeps telling me he was incredible for them, but for Scotland he was beyond shite imo. If the pass back rule was introduced in the 70s, Rough would have been a lower league keeper at best. I’ve never seen a keeper struggle so much with the fundamentals of goalkeeping (positioning, handling, diving etc). Most goals Scotland conceded with him in the sticks involve him standing in the middle of the goal, static, watching the ball fly past him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: The Zaire manager was a Yugoslav. 9-0 they won. One of the Zaire players did they not break from the wall at a free kick against us or maybe Brazil before the ref blew his whistle and get booked everybody just stood and looked at him and thought what a......... ? 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Angel eyes said: One of the Zaire players did they not break from the wall at a free kick against us or maybe Brazil before the ref blew his whistle and get booked everybody just stood and looked at him and thought what a......... ? 😃 I think they did it twice against Brazil and once against us. A classic scene from Nick Hancock's football nightmares . They must have thought it was just a free for all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 hours ago, theAlvasection said: Brazil aren't messing about with the tackles. They were a bunch of thugs that year! Very un-Brazil like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: The Zaire manager was a Yugoslav. 9-0 they won. To put Scotland out on goal difference! ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: To put Scotland out on goal difference! ☹️ Oh how I wish to be knocked out on goal difference, these days. Edited May 18, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 It’s a pity we had Zaire first. We ended up playing too conservatively and looked as if we were happy just to win our opening group match. That came back to bite us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, leginten said: It’s a pity we had Zaire first. We ended up playing too conservatively and looked as if we were happy just to win our opening group match. That came back to bite us. Conservatively to the stage we stopped trying to score and started playing keepie uppie in the middle of the park. ☹️ Still a bit of a pet hate of mine, if you're on top keep trying to score should be what you're doing, cup final 2012 for instance. It's why I've never joined in with the "olé" chants. Edited May 18, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 22 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: God Save the Queen Just watching this now, the players faces? GIFs well before their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hairdryer said: 0-0 One of the most exciting 0-0 matches I've seen. Looked even better than it did at the time. Love the tackling and, who was it invented gegenpressing again? Edited May 18, 2020 by colinmaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Just watching this now, the players faces? GIFs well before their time Morgan looked like he was going to kill someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 A proud moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Incredible game. Uruguayans were blushing at this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 18/05/2020 at 09:26, Cruickshank for Scotland said: They were a bunch of thugs that year! Very un-Brazil like. Yeah they went from being the greatest Brazil team ever (arguably greatest ever football team) to worst Brazil team of all time in space of 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: A proud moment Big Joe and Sandy 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 17/05/2020 at 23:27, gashauskis9 said: It’s mental. Only lost 1 goal as well. What a team that was though. When Lorimer hit the ball it stayed hit. Bremner bossed it. Jordan won everything in the air. Shame Harvey didn’t hold the gloves for longer, because for me Scotland’s decline dovetailed with Rough becoming number 1. I work with a Thistle fan who keeps telling me he was incredible for them, but for Scotland he was beyond shite imo. If the pass back rule was introduced in the 70s, Rough would have been a lower league keeper at best. I’ve never seen a keeper struggle so much with the fundamentals of goalkeeping (positioning, handling, diving etc). Most goals Scotland conceded with him in the sticks involve him standing in the middle of the goal, static, watching the ball fly past him. You must have been gutted when he signed for the hobos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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