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Morgan
2 hours ago, Lfhearts said:

Folk moaning about law firm we are using, know nothing.

I know the law firm.

 

 

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Cruickshank for Scotland
9 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Worse case if we lose tomorrow then can go back to court of session at a later stage if not resolved by SFA arbitration panel


3 man SFA appointed independent arbitration panel -

Tam McManus

Keith Jackson

Chris Sutton

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willie wallace

One more sleep boys.Have a good night🤗

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Jodami

Lockdown madness has turned the court case into the kickback summer outing. And this is just the initial hearing! Hoping it's a sunny day tomorrow. 

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RobNox
1 hour ago, Sir Gio said:

Culture shock awaits. 

 

Criminal trials can be dull for extended periods,  contract law, well doesn't get duller. 

Like a lot of recent Hearts games tbh.  We're all stir crazy and it's a while since we saw Hearts win something, so tomorrow is as good as it gets for the time being.

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One five
2 hours ago, gov said:

Night before the games begin....how we all feeling? Ill be working from home and refreshing twitter like mad and on here! 

How am I feeling....

in one word ....... nervous!

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Jambof3tornado
13 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:


3 man SFA appointed independent arbitration panel -

Tam McManus

Keith Jackson

Chris Sutton

Craigan as back up.

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Nookie Bear
28 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I know the law firm.

 

 


I know one of the partners. I trust them. 

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ScoPo
2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Ma maw could win this case if it stays in court of session

SPFL guilt is evident by fact they don’t want it in court

You may have a point there.  

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Ethan Hunt
9 hours ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

The "for some reason" could be the judge disagrees agree with our petitions merit. 

 

There is a reason petions are reviewed before going forward. 

I and others don't think that he'll agree with out petitions merit then send it back to the sporting bodies, the concern is that he disregards our points as he doesn’t think there has been any possible breech, therefor it goes no further forward in the courts 

 

Time will tell what he thinks. 

Who are the others?

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Zico
2 hours ago, Sir Gio said:

I'm not nervous at all. 

 

Win win.

 

Rules in favour of us, we strike a blow for justice,  probably hated by everyone else,  feral season. 

 

We lose,  moral high ground,  probably still be compensated,  a grievance that bonds us and serves as fuel for years to come. 

 

I'll still wake up Thursday morning supporting the best football club in the world 

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graygo
46 minutes ago, RobNox said:

Like a lot of recent Hearts games tbh.  We're all stir crazy and it's a while since we saw Hearts win something, so tomorrow is as good as it gets for the time being.

 

This one's virtual due to the virus, if it goes to full court case and they reopen the courthouse we might pack out the gallery, full kit, scarf and Tammy hat belting out the songs.

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davemclaren
2 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

This one's virtual due to the virus, if it goes to full court case and they reopen the courthouse we might pack out the gallery, full kit, scarf and Tammy hat belting out the songs.

😳

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J.T.F.Robertson
5 hours ago, davemclaren said:

We’d rather stay out of jail so no live updates on here please. 

 

Three "squares" a day.

 

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davemclaren
1 minute ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

Three "squares" a day.

 

True. 🤔

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jamborich
42 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


I know one of the partners. I trust them. 

Beautiful 

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manaliveits105
42 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Who are the others?

Vermin

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Smith's right boot
12 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

Three "squares" a day.

 

 

Sex on tap as well. 

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Ricardo Shillyshally
3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Sex on tap as well. 

Unless you're weak, then you're underneath

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Smith's right boot
Just now, Ricardo Shillyshally said:

Unless you're weak, then you're underneath

 

😂😂

Potato / potatoe. 

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Ethan Hunt
8 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Vermin

So a half wit and some vermin then.

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Jambo-Fox

Wednesday is going to be an interesting day!

I’m sure I read there is an SPFL meeting at 3pm, although I can’t remember if it was a Board Meeting or a meeting of the 12 Premier Division clubs (I think it was the latter but not sure).

I’m sure if the judge rules out the SPFL taking this to the SFA there will be one thing on the agenda, accept a 14 team division or continue the court case and potentially lose a lot of money!

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trotter
29 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

This one's virtual due to the virus, if it goes to full court case and they reopen the courthouse we might pack out the gallery, full kit, scarf and Tammy hat belting out the songs.

Just imagine that. Everyone standing doing the twirly as the judge walks in. Scott Wilson giving it the "This is Parliament House, MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!!"

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Kiwidoug
12 minutes ago, trotter said:

Just imagine that. Everyone standing doing the twirly as the judge walks in. Scott Wilson giving it the "This is Parliament House, MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!!"

"Silence in Court"!!!!! This isn't Hampden Park and you're not Hibs supporters.

 

"Show some respect you Jambos".

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Aussie Jambo

Sums it up in one. **** the SPFL. 

XpHqvh_tYRl8PGRmZljM0dv_u-fsqmG8KNE-kHl8Let’s do this... 

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RobNox
1 hour ago, graygo said:

 

This one's virtual due to the virus, if it goes to full court case and they reopen the courthouse we might pack out the gallery, full kit, scarf and Tammy hat belting out the songs.

 

Do you think they'll allow Scott Wilson in to help build the pre-match atmosphere?

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Captain Price

Quite nervous.

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graygo

There's no big secret to listening to a virtual court hearing, you just need to ask for the access code which they will give you. This information is readily available on their website.

 

How do I access a case?
Dial +44-20-7660-8149.
You will be asked for an access code or meeting number. Use the unique number for the hearing followed by #.
When asked to key in an attendee number or press # – press #.

 

Hopefully they will send me the access code for the case in the morning but if some kind soul could pm me it that would be great. 👍

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RobNox
50 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Wednesday is going to be an interesting day!

I’m sure I read there is an SPFL meeting at 3pm, although I can’t remember if it was a Board Meeting or a meeting of the 12 Premier Division clubs (I think it was the latter but not sure).

I’m sure if the judge rules out the SPFL taking this to the SFA there will be one thing on the agenda, accept a 14 team division or continue the court case and potentially lose a lot of money!

 

That's where I'm at too.  If the judge rules that our case is to be heard at the Court of Session, then I very much doubt that the SPFL has the appetite for having their dirty laundry aired in public, nor that many other clubs have the appetite to accept the financial risk of proceeding with the case and losing. 

 

Like a lot of others on here, I see tomorrow as the crucial moment.  If it goes in our favour, then I believe the SPFL will look to resurrect the reconstruction proposal, and a lot of clubs who originally voted against it will change their tune.  I would be very surprised if the SPFL allow this case to proceed to the Court of Session if that is what the judge determines tomorrow.

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graygo
22 minutes ago, graygo said:

There's no big secret to listening to a virtual court hearing, you just need to ask for the access code which they will give you. This information is readily available on their website.

 

How do I access a case?
Dial +44-20-7660-8149.
You will be asked for an access code or meeting number. Use the unique number for the hearing followed by #.
When asked to key in an attendee number or press # – press #.

 

Hopefully they will send me the access code for the case in the morning but if some kind soul could pm me it that would be great. 👍

 

Sorted with the access code now. 👍

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It should’ve been 12!

Does anyone know how much this shall cost to dial in via mobile phone?
 

if it’s going to be pricey is it possible to manually enter the dial in details into a webex?
 

Thanks in advance. 👍🇱🇻

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number-16

Waiting for a link to a dodgy streaming site where I can watch proceedings 

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RobNox
6 minutes ago, number-16 said:

Waiting for a link to a dodgy streaming site where I can watch proceedings 

 

You won't be watching proceedings, you'll be listening to them.

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OTT
8 minutes ago, number-16 said:

Waiting for a link to a dodgy streaming site where I can watch proceedings 

 

Hesgoal :D 

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graygo
23 minutes ago, It should’ve been 12! said:

Does anyone know how much this shall cost to dial in via mobile phone?
 

if it’s going to be pricey is it possible to manually enter the dial in details into a webex?
 

Thanks in advance. 👍🇱🇻

 

Pretty sure they are free to call, the host pays the fees.

 

Trying to find out for certain.

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Hackney Hearts

Lucky underpants laid out for the morning.

Champagne breakfast.

Dial-in code.

Big flag.

 

Just hope I can get some sleep...

 

#justice4thejambojags

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jambostuart
19 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Pretty sure they are free to call, the host pays the fees.

 

Trying to find out for certain.

 

If it's Webex it's just out of your standard minutes. I use Webex for my work and I've never been charged a premium number. I have unlimited minutes though so not sure if it comes off those..

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graygo
22 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Pretty sure they are free to call, the host pays the fees.

 

Trying to find out for certain.

 

Ok to call if you get free calls, it's a London based landline number so included in most call plans.

 

@jambostuart 👍 posted at same time.

 

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graygo

Confirmed on Albion Rovers website of all places.

They're on the bad list aren't they?

 

https://arfc.proboards.com/thread/1750/supporters-trust-conference-call

 

If you have a mobile phone or landline contract that includes free minutes to UK landline, the call will be deducted from your existing allowance.  If you do not have included minutes, please refer to your provider for details on the access charges etc.

Dial Telephone Number: 0207 660 8149

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Cruickshank for Scotland

Hearts fans celebrate a famous Court victory!

 

Hibs fans asked to form an orderly queue at the Forth road bridge railings......

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jamtartan74

Wait, so if I phone that number I can actually listen to the court hearing? K’nell 😁 what time is it at, 10:00am?

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Selkirkhmfc1874

Goodluck to the legal teams of Heart Of Midlothain and Partick Thistle today ! Let's bring this S**tshow called the spfl to it's knees 

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dazinho88

Would anyone mind letting me know the access code to listen in on the hearing? Nerves kicking in now!

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Lfhearts
8 hours ago, Morgan said:

I know the law firm.

 

 

Bet they are first class.

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Vlad Magic

As Blackadder once said 

 

“Good luck everyone”

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Rattatooi

This is like the days when UKIO and the courts agreed the terms of Administration (CVA?). We’ve had more nail biting, f5 keyboard bashing, sweat it out moments than anyone in the last few years.

 

We won them then and I’m fairly confident, under the same leadership, we will win them now..!!

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gashauskis9

I’m not confident.  I’ve just got used to the fact that the bad guys always win or get away with it nowadays.  

 

More important though, is that I’m as proud to be a Jambo as I’ve ever been because of how we’ve carried ourselves through this, from the patience and professionalism in the boardroom to the unity of the support in continuing to plough funds into the club at our lowest ebb.

 

Better days ahead, regardless of the outcome of this case.  

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stevieboobs

 

David Southern blasts SPFL crocodile tears as former Hearts chief pinpoints explosion of 'football family' dream

The businessman has been in high profile jobs within Scottish football and feels the treatment of relegated clubs has been abysmal.

David Southern has slammed the “crocodile tears” shed by SPFL clubs for Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer. 

The former Tynecastle chief believes the reaction of other clubs since court action was announced has exposed the idea of a “football family” as myth.

Hearts and Thistle’s joint legal petition will be heard at the Court of Session in Edinburgh this morning, when it will be decided if the challenging of their respective relegations is a matter for the courts or to be arbitrated by the SFA.

Former Hearts managing director Southern believes many of their rivals have shown their true colours since the Jambos and the Jags decided not to accept their fate lying down.

And that talk of co-operation and working together for the great good was just that.

As a result, they could regret dismissing the concerns of Ann Budge and Jacqui Low.

Southern told Record Sport : “There were a lot of crocodile tears for Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer. 

“Stranraer have been a bit forgotten in this. Partick not so much but there have been a lot of crocodile tears for all three of them.

“As has been the way in Scottish football for years, people then just turn their back and move on. Invariably there doesn’t tend to be any consequences.

“But given the gross injustice that there’s been here, you can’t blame Hearts and Partick Thistle for taking this legal route.

“It’s very unusual but you certainly can’t blame them. I saw Craig Gordon ’s comments and I’d just back up what he said as well. 

“To underestimate Ann and Jacqui Low, you do that at your own peril. I know both of them and they’re good operators in their own business world and also in football.

“Football’s fluid – it’s difficult to be right or successful all the time – but in this case, they’re completely justified to go legal.

“There’s not really been any comfort from many clubs or people within the game so they had no choice.

“Over the last few weeks the narrative has been, ‘let’s move on, we must move on, let’s talk together, work together and be the football family’. There is no such thing as the ‘football family’.

“As much as certain clubs and club chairmen want to cover their tracks, I’m afraid it’s not going to be possible until the court case is heard and judged one way or another.”

Hearts’ decision to fight the drop by legal means sparked an immediate response from the sides that were promoted as a result of the season being called early.

Dundee United, Raith and Cove have launched their own, separate actions to try to ensure they’ll remain in a higher division.

But Southern, who was chief operating officer at Tannadice between 2014 and 2019, is adamant no one would have had to lose out had the initial resolution on whether to end the campaign early not been bungled so badly.

He said: “I honestly believe that the right decision should have been taken on April 10.

“The mistake that was made then was that the reconstruction debate should have been included in that resolution.

“In terms of the money being distributed and the league being called to an end, there shouldn’t have been relegation.

“That was completely unfair. But I also believe that promotion should have happened.

“So there is still an opportunity and it’s within the SPFL’s power to carry it out, for a 14-10-10-10.

“It’s still there, it still exists and it would have avoided the unnecessary move to the courtroom. So it’s whether people see sense.

“But positions are entrenched now so it’s unfortunate. But Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer have basically been cornered, the only route out for them is now via the courtroom.

“They’re completely justified in taking it outwith football because as I said, there’s no such thing as the football family. It’s one of these myths that exists.

“It’s a very couthy thing to say and a very convenient thing to say when it suits your particular agenda in the game.

“But it doesn’t exist and we’re finding that out. The supporters of not just Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer but of all clubs across the country, are finding out that there’s no such thing as the football family.

 

“It’s very unfortunate that they’ve had to go to court but it’s very necessary.”

Should it be the Championship for Hearts, Southern believes they’ve made the signing of the summer in Robbie Neilson as the man to get them out of it quickly.

He said: “The scale and stature and Hearts would’ve been a huge draw to him.

“It’s very secure, he’ll have a good budget and will be well backed by Ann.

“I honestly think it’s one of the best signings of the summer transfer window.

“I worked with him at Hearts when he was a player, when he started as a coach with Ann.

 

“I helped bring him in with Mike Martin, chairman then at Dundee United and he was first class.

“First class as a player, first class as a coach and first class as a manager. He will do a very good job. It just so happens he’s seen as a Championship specialist, which is unfair.

“I believe that he could take his place at pretty much any team in Scotland.”

Edited by stevieboobs

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