Jambof3tornado Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Our 4 now sorted. Half payment before 8th june half payment in december. Lindsay sorted in all no bother. Good outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Our 4 now sorted. Half payment before 8th june half payment in december. Lindsay sorted in all no bother. Good outcome. Well done. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 17 hours ago, henryheart said: If Hearts go bankrupt Anne Budge will lose all her money; there are agreements in place with FOH which is in a position to make payments her. Any other debts are insignificant by comparison and can be reasonably covered by funding transfers and costs being covered by Budge and/or FOH. The current actions being taken by the club are aimed at handing the club over to FOH with either no or manageable debt. She has had all but £100k of the money. She has actually loaned a chunk of it back to the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 17 hours ago, jr ewing said: Pay half now half later then. Better than nothing. And on a credit card just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 24/04/2020 at 18:37, letsmakesomenoise said: I just cant get my head around the club trying to sell us something they pretty much know they cant deliver. If they want to flog us shares, or a different way of making money like debentures or something, then fine but please don't try to sell us something we already know is a bogey. Id happily double my FOH monies for the next year, if it helped. But I struggle with buying an 18 game season ticket when we know that wont happen. A football season will start at some point and when it does the season ticket bought will give access to those games. If a proportion of them end up being streamed, because matches are played behind closed doors therefore an online season ticket, then so be it. You’re happy to double your FOH contributions, which will get you nothing personally, but you would struggle to buy a season ticket as, effectively, the exact date it would commence isn’t know yet 🤷♂️ If you are struggling to get your head round this I’d hate to see you try long division!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAustin Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Got email back very quick saying she spilt the payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, SuperAustin said: Got email back very quick saying she spilt the payment So you have to email her first before doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, been here before said: Have a look. Don’t see anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAustin Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: So you have to email her first before doing it? Yeah have to email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 24/04/2020 at 18:59, Holyrood_Hearts said: Completely agree, it’s utter madness. Have we suddenly been bought over by some Saudi consortium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAustin Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: So you have to email her first before doing it? https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/customer-care/contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 25/04/2020 at 20:34, Sirudi said: Personally I am not too impressed with the way the club have gone about this. A season ticket is a big outlay for me, so I would prefer to be treated with a bit more openness. To offer a 10% discount for missing 3 home games this season is disingenuous, when it is more likely that 4 home games have been lost and a 10% discount does not begin to cover this. It would have been more upfront for the club to offer a refund for the lost home games, whilst making it clear they really would be in financial trouble if supporters accepted it. But at least give the fans the choice, after all it is the supporters money. I am pretty sure very few would have gone for the refund, but those that did would probably really need it given the current situation. To ask fans to pay for a full season ticket at this stage makes no sense to me. As others have suggested, it would probably make more financial sense to ask fans to pay a £100 deposit to secure their season tickets. The club would probably raise more money in the short term. Then come back when we know what league we will be playing in, or more realistically if there will be football played this year, and make it clear that more “donations” are required to keep the club going. I am pretty sure fans would stump up. Selling “season tickets” at this point, when there is no guarantee of football, is misleading. Call it as it is. The fans will understand and help if they possibly can. More self interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Well done. 👍 Just want to give the club something but not the full amount. This is ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 26/04/2020 at 14:05, henryheart said: 100% spot on. I have been very unimpressed by the short sighted and knee jerk way the club has gone about this. I’d be interested to hear your ideas on how they should have gone about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Just want to give the club something but not the full amount. This is ideal. As others have said I’ve been stuck in the house not spending as much for five weeks. I would have bought one anyway but it feels like I’ve saved for it, for a change. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, davemclaren said: As others have said I’ve been stuck in the house not spending as much for five weeks. I would have bought one anyway but it feels like I’ve saved for it, for a change. 😄 I’ve been stuck in the house not earning a penny . ☹️ Half now ,half later ,might sway it ,but I need to wait to see IF I get anything from the govt in June as I’m self employed . I won’t be the only one and I don’t think anyone querying the sale of ST is doing it for there own self interest as posted above , more out of genuine financial dilemma . Id like to think we’re all doing what we can to help our club out 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, EH22-Jambo said: L not i It's: [email protected] Easy done 😁👍🏻 Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said: I’ve been stuck in the house not earning a penny . ☹️ Half now ,half later ,might sway it ,but I need to wait to see IF I get anything from the govt in June as I’m self employed . I won’t be the only one and I don’t think anyone querying the sale of ST is doing it for there own self interest as posted above , more out of genuine financial dilemma . Id like to think we’re all doing what we can to help our club out 🤔 Absolutely. Some of us are a lot luckier than others. Hope things pick up for you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said: I’ve been stuck in the house not earning a penny . ☹️ Half now ,half later ,might sway it ,but I need to wait to see IF I get anything from the govt in June as I’m self employed . I won’t be the only one and I don’t think anyone querying the sale of ST is doing it for there own self interest as posted above , more out of genuine financial dilemma . Id like to think we’re all doing what we can to help our club out 🤔 My self interest quip related to the poster wanting money returned for games he might (seasons not been called yet) miss and stating 10% discount not good enough. Given the current circumstances I’d say that is completely self interest. If someone has to think of the financial implications of buying a season ticket for this forthcoming season - such and when that will be - then fair enough. I have no time whatsoever though for people moaning about partial refunds for this season, even if the season is not completed. The solution to this issue is quite simple. If someone wants to buy a season ticket - by whatever means - then they are entitled to do so. If someone doesn’t want to then likewise, they are entitled not to. But, FFS don’t come on here greeting about the attempts being made by the club to keep the club out of the shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Absolutely. Some of us are a lot luckier than others. Hope things pick up for you soon. Cheers Dave 👍🏻 13 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: My self interest quip related to the poster wanting money returned for games he might (seasons not been called yet) miss and stating 10% discount not good enough. Given the current circumstances I’d say that is completely self interest. If someone has to think of the financial implications of buying a season ticket for this forthcoming season - such and when that will be - then fair enough. I have no time whatsoever though for people moaning about partial refunds for this season, even if the season is not completed. The solution to this issue is quite simple. If someone wants to buy a season ticket - by whatever means - then they are entitled to do so. If someone doesn’t want to then likewise, they are entitled not to. But, FFS don’t come on here greeting about the attempts being made by the club to keep the club out of the shite. Should’ve been clearer , I was having a personal go at you , just using the words posted . My personal opinion is the money I handed over to Hearts for this season is theirs , wouldn’t be looking for a refund ( maybe a couple of pints in bar1874 would be good tho 😀) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirudi Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said: More self interest. 44 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: My self interest quip related to the poster wanting money returned for games he might (seasons not been called yet) miss and stating 10% discount not good enough. Given the current circumstances I’d say that is completely self interest. If someone has to think of the financial implications of buying a season ticket for this forthcoming season - such and when that will be - then fair enough. I have no time whatsoever though for people moaning about partial refunds for this season, even if the season is not completed. The solution to this issue is quite simple. If someone wants to buy a season ticket - by whatever means - then they are entitled to do so. If someone doesn’t want to then likewise, they are entitled not to. But, FFS don’t come on here greeting about the attempts being made by the club to keep the club out of the shite. Care to point out where I personally requested a refund ? Read more rant less would be my recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said: My self interest quip related to the poster wanting money returned for games he might (seasons not been called yet) miss and stating 10% discount not good enough. Given the current circumstances I’d say that is completely self interest. If someone has to think of the financial implications of buying a season ticket for this forthcoming season - such and when that will be - then fair enough. I have no time whatsoever though for people moaning about partial refunds for this season, even if the season is not completed. The solution to this issue is quite simple. If someone wants to buy a season ticket - by whatever means - then they are entitled to do so. If someone doesn’t want to then likewise, they are entitled not to. But, FFS don’t come on here greeting about the attempts being made by the club to keep the club out of the shite. Very well put. Top post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 hours ago, wavydavy said: When the Chairperson comes out and publicly states that she thinks it highly unlikely that Football will be played in front of an stadium audience this year then it is hardly going to inpsire people to buy a season ticket at the moment. On that basis if nobody buys a season ticket there will not be a club to follow. I really think its as serious as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: I’ve been stuck in the house not earning a penny . ☹️ Half now ,half later ,might sway it ,but I need to wait to see IF I get anything from the govt in June as I’m self employed . I won’t be the only one and I don’t think anyone querying the sale of ST is doing it for there own self interest as posted above , more out of genuine financial dilemma . Id like to think we’re all doing what we can to help our club out 🤔 I feel for you buddy. I have a few mates in the same line of work as you that are in the same boat. Ive also lost my whole summer orders that had us booked out till November this year. £500k worth of work has either postponed or cancelled and my workforce has went from 22 down to 5. If the don’t open things up within 4 weeks then I won’t have a business left. Its on life support just now. The position I’m in then I’ll do what I can for the club but it won’t be anything like the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Well for better or worse that's me renewed albeit on a split payment. HHGH!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said: I feel for you buddy. I have a few mates in the same line of work as you that are in the same boat. Ive also lost my whole summer orders that had us booked out till November this year. £500k worth of work has either postponed or cancelled and my workforce has went from 22 down to 5. If the don’t open things up within 4 weeks then I won’t have a business left. Its on life support just now. The position I’m in then I’ll do what I can for the club but it won’t be anything like the last few years Cheers mate and I hope you get your business moving too ( and everyone else) On the up side I’ve learned how to use the washing machine thingy, make the tea and even hoover up , all whilst being a kept man 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Whether you agree that the 10% covers your “loss” the club have been transparent - particularly as they have no legal obligation to cover the “loss” under the T&Cs. If we are in the Premiership next season on an expanded 14 team basis - you’ll have lucked out as in theory as there will be more home games and the discount will be a real one as we will still be in the SPL also. Nobody knows what is going to happen about football. We know one thing for certain - if fans don’t buy season tickets we likely go bust. Edited April 27, 2020 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Sirudi said: Care to point out where I personally requested a refund ? Read more rant less would be my recommendation. 😂😂 You obviously don’t do irony. The majority of your post was a rant about how the club have handled season tickets 😂😂 I would suggest it’s pretty clear from the text below that you were looking for further discount and/or a partial refund. If you aren’t then you are making a fecking good job of making it look like you are, or maybe your just taking up the fight for other supporters, after all it’s the supporters money eh. Personally I am not too impressed with the way the club have gone about this. A season ticket is a big outlay for me, so I would prefer to be treated with a bit more openness. To offer a 10% discount for missing 3 home games this season is disingenuous, when it is more likely that 4 home games have been lost and a 10% discount does not begin to cover this. It would have been more upfront for the club to offer a refund for the lost home games, whilst making it clear they really would be in financial trouble if supporters accepted it. But at least give the fans the choice, after all it is the supporters money. I am pretty sure very few would have gone for the refund, but those that did would probably really need it given the current situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Saughton Jambo said: I feel for you buddy. I have a few mates in the same line of work as you that are in the same boat. Ive also lost my whole summer orders that had us booked out till November this year. £500k worth of work has either postponed or cancelled and my workforce has went from 22 down to 5. If the don’t open things up within 4 weeks then I won’t have a business left. Its on life support just now. The position I’m in then I’ll do what I can for the club but it won’t be anything like the last few years Best of luck Saughton. Terrible predicament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Saughton Jambo said: I feel for you buddy. I have a few mates in the same line of work as you that are in the same boat. Ive also lost my whole summer orders that had us booked out till November this year. £500k worth of work has either postponed or cancelled and my workforce has went from 22 down to 5. If the don’t open things up within 4 weeks then I won’t have a business left. Its on life support just now. The position I’m in then I’ll do what I can for the club but it won’t be anything like the last few years It’s a really bad position for you to be in and a really bad one for the club as well. A lot of regular corporate sponsors will struggle to continue their support given the current crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, iwasthere1954 said: On that basis if nobody buys a season ticket there will not be a club to follow. I really think its as serious as that. I think you are spot on! If nobody buys season tickets the only other way(s) to survive would be for all FOH subscribers to at least quadruple their payments or implement the clause / article 12 in players contracts and stop paying wages. Season ticket money will be required to pay wages especially when the furlough payments (currently end of June) cease! And once ST money runs out it will fall on the bank of last resort to fund the club, which is the Bank of Budge! Queen Ann to save to save Hearts again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It’s a really bad position for you to be in and a really bad one for the club as well. A lot of regular corporate sponsors will struggle to continue their support given the current crisis. I think your right Dave. I’ve spoken with a few from corporate already and there’s a lot that can’t justify it. Especially when businesses are crashing and there’s no prospect of even getting in to watch anything at Tynecastle this year. I’ve got 4 weeks left to save the business and then I have to freeze the company for the time being and make some really hard decisions. The economy has to keep moving and sanctions with restrictions, need to be in place. There’s more anger and resentment at the former manager than their is with covid though. Think that’s the other thing that the chairman needs to take into account before the 8th June cut off date. If he’s still around then there’s a lot that won’t renew as they blame him for this mess we find ourselves in.....and sadly I have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 hours ago, davemclaren said: As others have said I’ve been stuck in the house not spending as much for five weeks. I would have bought one anyway but it feels like I’ve saved for it, for a change. 😄 I am in the fortunate position of having put money aside over the last 12 months so had the money for the season tickets I bought and even used the 10% saving to go towards a new base unit which does mean that I have got 12 months to save up for the season after next rather than have 10% of it already saved. I understand not everyone is in this position but being a pensioner does have some advantages. Yes it is a leap of faith to have bought but there are many businesses and people struggling in the current situation and I would miss going to Tynecastle so hopefully enough of us can help out in these desperate times. I see my FOH subs as a monthly expenditure item so again no issues with that PS as a pensioner I am deeply jealous of how much some of you blow in a weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said: There’s more anger and resentment at the former manager than their is with covid though. Think that’s the other thing that the chairman needs to take into account before the 8th June cut off date. If he’s still around then there’s a lot that won’t renew as they blame him for this mess we find ourselves in.....and sadly I have to agree. I though AB said at the AGM that the contracts were up at the end of May and they would be gone by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, brownkg said: I though AB said at the AGM that the contracts were up at the end of May and they would be gone by then 🙏 she’s been known to change her mind before though Edited April 27, 2020 by Saughton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Saughton Jambo said: 🙏 she’s been known to change her mind before though I agree but given the way things are at the moment (sorry to scratch that itch for you) I would reckon that won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, brownkg said: I agree but given the way things are at the moment (sorry to scratch that itch for you) I would reckon that won't happen Think you misinterpreted my praying hands. Should’ve put a full stop after the emoji. They’re for when he finally goes and the club are free. I’m certainly not praying for her to change her mind about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said: Think you misinterpreted my praying hands. Should’ve put a full stop after the emoji. They’re for when he finally goes and the club are free. I’m certainly not praying for her to change her mind about him No I didn't take you wanted him to stay nor do I expect him to.I was due to get my windows replaced the day lock down started I am just hoping they , and you of course, mange to get through this OK. Mind you the warmer weather and the lack of hurricanes means it is not quite as urgent as it was to replace the old ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said: Think you misinterpreted my praying hands. Should’ve put a full stop after the emoji. They’re for when he finally goes and the club are free. I’m certainly not praying for her to change her mind about him Only mentioning this because I think it's interesting rather than correcting but that emoji is meant to be a high five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: Only mentioning this because I think it's interesting rather than correcting but that emoji is meant to be a high five. And I’ll be there to high 5 him right out the building. That’s what happens when you’re over 50. Can’t keep up with the young ones IT these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said: And I’ll be there to high 5 him right out the building. That’s what happens when you’re over 50. Can’t keep up with the young ones IT these days Will him leaving increase the season ticket sales I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Will him leaving increase the season ticket sales I wonder? Yes, my 3 x STs will be bought as soon as I know that we have taken all possible steps to reduce expenditure. I have no issue buying a ST and every game next season being behind closed doors, but I do have an issue if that revenue goes on retaining Levein and MacPhee. I would also be disappointed, if any of the players with expiring deals were offered new contracts in the current climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Will him leaving increase the season ticket sales I wonder? It’ll certainly mean I’ll renew my 3 if he goes. Would seriously make me think twice about renewing if he’s still here come 1st June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: Will him leaving increase the season ticket sales I wonder? If we are def down and whether hes here or not , might not really matter , if we get 9k season cards sold it's a good sale imo' I think people will choose their games for a bit, theres no gers or hobos or even dun utd in it ? So decent opposition is not really there ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 15:41, Jambof3tornado said: Our 4 now sorted. Half payment before 8th june half payment in december. Lindsay sorted in all no bother. Good outcome. Any update on the numbers sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Is there anything official on the website yet about this split payment option? Just seems a bit odd that it is available but they haven't made people aware of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Is there anything official on the website yet about this split payment option? Just seems a bit odd that it is available but they haven't made people aware of it. Have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, been here before said: Have a look. I don't see it if you do - please share the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: I don't see it if you do - please share the link Thats twice youve answered your own question on this thread. 👏 Given Im a bit bored I'll ask...Why would you need a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, been here before said: Thats twice youve answered your own question on this thread. 👏 Given Im a bit bored I'll ask...Why would you need a link? so why is it not on the website? Surely it would only be right for them to do this so all fans know Edited April 29, 2020 by Natural Orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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