Why do fans of other clubs hate Hearts?

[Craig Herbertson]

34 minutes ago, Anything2 said:

The whole social media/internet angle has definitely added a new dynamic to football rivalries. For one thing, you can't get away with making stuff up about other teams the way kids did when I was at school. For instance, a quick Google search will prove that Hibs do not griodhold a record of 32 Derby victories in a row as one of my class mates would insist. 

 

That's true. While they scramble to check their phone you merely need to mention the numbers 22 and 5-1 and smugly take another sip of Pinot Grigio

[Morgan]

Kevin Moffat.   

 

What an out and out tool.

[Beast Boy]

6 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

 

Great stuff, bud. 

 

Always hear the sound of scuttling cockroaches when I read that thread. 

 

 

It’s a long and at times harrowing novel, but the twist at the end is sensational. I do love a happy ending.

 

[been here before]

1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

 

There are guys in there who actually wrote emails to the Lithuanian government to try and scupper our CVA. Our administrator Bryan Jackson of BDO later admitted that it nearly worked.

 

Heres one of the emails from an absolute sad case of a man called Kevin Moffat:

 

Dear Mr Gustas

 

I write to you as a concerned and ashamed Scotsman to inform you of an attempt by fellow Scottish people to defraud the Republic of Lithuania of many millions of pounds. You are no doubt aware of the plight of Ukio Bankas, UBIG and the dreadful conduct of the major shareholder in both of these companies Vladimir Romanov. But it is another of his ventures, namely his interest in Heart of Midlothian football club in Edinburgh I would like to draw your attention to. Since 2006 Mr Romanov has ploughed many millions of pounds, estimates believed to be as much as ?85million, which has now turned out to be money he nor his banking groups could afford to invest, and these concerns raised many times over by the financial and football authorities here in Scotland. These concerns were continually ignored by officials at Hearts and also by their support who were happy to accept the success that has turned out to be the people of your countries money. Please also note that Romanov was refused permission to purchase shares at 2 other clubs. This is because he could not fund the regimes he was looking to put in place. This was ignored by Heart of Midlothian. They operated throughout his tenure with substantial losses which have now come to be at the Lithuanian tax payers expense. I would like to reiterate at this point that they have spent ?85 million pounds of your money. I would also like to bring to your attention their failure to pay charities, police costs, healthcare costs and uk taxes owed during this time.

The current state of affairs at Heart of Midlothian sees them in administration and seeking a deal whereby the shares currently owned by UBIG, Ukio bankas and Ukio Bankas security on Tynecastle stadium in Edinburgh is sold to Bidco for the paltry sum of ?2.5million. It is at this point I would like to make you aware of several areas of prime development land in Edinburgh that have sold recently for many millions of pounds over the ?2.5million currently being offered to your people. It is at this point I would also say that it is my opinion that you would not be serving the people of Lithuania if you did not recover as much of their money that this organisation has taken with no intention of paying back. I would urge you to seek trustworthy advice on the value of the assets before proceeding with any deal as there is no doubt accepting an offer of ?2.5 million is depriving your people of many of millions of pounds.

Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for the disgusting way in which this organisation has squandered many millions of pounds of your countries money. I find it totally unacceptable and would urge you to use all of your power in recouping your peoples money. If the tables were turned, it would be the least I would expect of my government. I would also appreciate your thoughts on the issues I have raised and if you are able to, your intentions in the future regarding these.

I look forward to your reply

 

Mr Kevin Moffat"

 

 

 

 

Sometimes the words "Dear Mr Gustas" pop randomly into my head.

 

And I just smile a warm smile whilst a little bit of me flies with angels.

[Guest ToqueJambo]

If they do it's because we're either a threat now or in the past have delivered numerous humpings of their own team, or it's because we think, act and talk like a big, relatively successful club - because that's what we are. 

 

As others have said we're also criticised a lot more about in the media. For example, we talk about pay cuts - screaming headlines for days and everyone and their dog commenting negatively about it. Celtic talk about pay cuts - crickets.

Edited April 21, 2020 by ToqueJambo

[Beast Boy]

1 hour ago, been here before said:

 

Sometimes the words "Dear Mr Gustas" pop randomly into my head.

 

And I just smile a warm smile whilst a little bit of me flies with angels.

Boy’s an absolute penis. 

[hueyview]

3 hours ago, Morgan said:

Kevin Moffat.   

 

What an out and out tool.

Was he a real guy...   

[OldGorgie]

5 hours ago, hueyview said:

Was he a real guy...   

he must be as thick as shit if he thinks an executive in a company in serious financial trouble would read such drivel. Would be interesting to see where he works.

[Debut 4]

12 hours ago, gowestjambo said:

 

The above statement really says it all. We seem to be stuck in a vacuum.  We have an inferiority complex against the Old Firm and a Superiority Complex against everyone else. Our record against the likes of Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and St Mirren is pathetic. We only seem to be up for the battle against hibs. We should be dominating the bottom six, but seem to think we only have to turn up to win. As Criag Levein stated in his early days (Yes him!!) You need to win the battle before you win the game. Unfortunately, we appear to hand the initiative to the opposition from KO.

 

It is time we got back to being a team of Fighters. and if other teams hate us - it should be for the reason that we turn them over!!

 

Spot on. 

[Beast Boy]

6 hours ago, hueyview said:

Was he a real guy...   

 

Yes, he’s on Twitter as @stonewall1982.

[sjh1874]

Hearts in the 70s and 80s trashed every town they ever went to.

 

Gorgie Aggro were naughty boys indeed.

 

Mix that with envy about a proper support saving their club then the green eyed monster is never far away. 

[Spellczech]

Because we have the best badge - was always the "Shiny" neutrals liked, like Birmingham in England;

 

We are the most romantic club so all their girlfriends like us instead of their club;

 

Because our WW1 team and their sacrifice sets us aparts as a noble club;

 

Because we have some fans who are a bit "entitled" to an extent which exceeds our accomplishments;

 

Because we have an element in the support who try to out-Rangers the Huns...

 

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by Spellczech

[Hashimoto]

18 hours ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

Not having a pop D4, because I do know where you're coming from... but seriously, is that it? Norwich have challenged for the title in the last 30-35 years. Are Norwich therefore hated by the rest of England? Leicester won the league in 2016. Other than Derby and Forest - who are more concerned with each other anyway - who hates them? 

 

Atletico Madrid won the league in 2014. Barcelona's fans gave them a standing ovation when they did so; fans across Spain were thrilled. Last season and this, Atalanta have been amazing domestically and in Europe. They've been lauded for it in Italy and further afield. Other than Brescia - and some Lazio and Roma hooligans - who hates them?

 

There is nothing normal about the level of hatred in Scottish football. It's so small time, it's unbelievable. And it's also not gone on forever. When Dundee United reached the UEFA Cup Final in 1987, Hearts gave them a guard of honour. When Aberdeen were in the 1983 Cup Winners Cup Final or Celtic were in the 1967 European Cup Final, most Scottish fans were cheering them on. 

 

This level of bald men fighting over a comb pettiness is relatively new - and it's happened in tandem with Scottish football, at club and national level, getting worse and worse and worse. "**** 'em all", is a fairly common cry on here. Then people act all hurt when Hearts are the ones who get ****ed.

 

An eye for an eye? Everyone ends up blind. And in Scottish football's kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. 

I believe that Atletico were given a standing ovation by Barcelona out of pure hatred in Catalonia of Real Madrid. The hatred stems back to the days of the Spanish Civil War (!936-39) when Franco (Real Madrid supporter) interned thousands of Republican dissidents in the Camp Nou, many dying there.....Pure hatred.........
For me, hatred of Hearts stems from Romanov and his all out assault on the establishment. He had the balls to call it as it was, still is....Monkeys, banana statements didn't help. Most sports journalists (I use the term lightly) most definitely have an anti Hearts attitude, but nothing new there. Some will remember John Gibson, EEN who used to aways have a wee snide digs at Hearts back in the 70's.
The TV pundits who help promote anti Hearts sentiment were usually the one who got it tight at Tynecastle during their playing days. Payback time.
   

[Marvin]

15 hours ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

Hi Jambos, Cardiff City fan in peace here, from our perspective we thrive on the fact that absolutely no one likes us, it's a bit like Millwall, no one likes us, we don't care. I wouldn't have it any other way. Everywhere we go we attract attention, probably because pretty much every game is an England v Wales affair and also because of our Soul Crew antics in years gone by. I am gutted as I would have been visiting your fine city next week and was going to visit all of the tourist attractions and Tynecastle. Trip obviously cancelled due to this bloody virus. I have developed a soft spot for Hearts and will be determined to get up to Edinburgh as soon as it's safe to do so. I wish you luck for the future and like I said, no one likes us, we don't care. 

 

I thought it was the carrot crunchers you boys hated. Or Bristol City if you prefer?

[fabienleclerq]

Doe sthe OP mean online or at the games? I don't find teams particularly dislike us anymore than anyone else at the games etc, online everyone seems to hate everyone. 

[CARDIFFBOY]

1 hour ago, Marvin said:

 

I thought it was the carrot crunchers you boys hated. Or Bristol City if you prefer?

 

For older Cardiff like myself the Worzels are hated just as much as the Swansea Jacks. How does it work when your main rival is in the same city, do Hearts lads venture into Leith or vice versa or do you respect each others zones and keep out? With Cardiff we have to travel in a bubble trip which is coaches escorted by the police straight to the ground, can't make our own way to Swansea. Makes it pretty crap.

[Beast Boy]

3 minutes ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

 

For older Cardiff like myself the Worzels are hated just as much as the Swansea Jacks. How does it work when your main rival is in the same city, do Hearts lads venture into Leith or vice versa or do you respect each others zones and keep out? With Cardiff we have to travel in a bubble trip which is coaches escorted by the police straight to the ground, can't make our own way to Swansea. Makes it pretty crap.

No, Edinburgh is mixed pretty evenly between Hearts and Hibs. There’s plenty Hibs supporters in the areas west of Gorgie, and plenty Hearts supporters in Leith. There’s more Hearts supporters than Hibs, but it’s not a massive difference. 

[CARDIFFBOY]

1 minute ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

No, Edinburgh is mixed pretty evenly between Hearts and Hibs. There’s plenty Hibs supporters in the areas west of Gorgie, and plenty Hearts supporters in Leith. There’s more Hearts supporters than Hibs, but it’s not a massive difference. 

I have seen You Tube videos of Hibs marching to Tynecastle and Hearts marching to Easter Road, gotta say that's how it should be, just a few old bill escorting but not stopping the buzz. Saw the Hearts victory in the recent local derby on TV, Hearts fans were bloody awesome. Must have been amazing to have been there, before, during and after. 

[Marvin]

4 minutes ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

 

For older Cardiff like myself the Worzels are hated just as much as the Swansea Jacks. How does it work when your main rival is in the same city, do Hearts lads venture into Leith or vice versa or do you respect each others zones and keep out? With Cardiff we have to travel in a bubble trip which is coaches escorted by the police straight to the ground, can't make our own way to Swansea. Makes it pretty crap.

 

I've been away from Edinburgh for 20 years now  When I lived there we had parts which could be regarded as Hearts and hibs strongholds. When I moved to Bath I went out with a City supporter for a couple of years, which didn't take me long to figure out that their fan base are the biggest bunch of wallopers I had ever come across (since hibs of course). I got an unsavoury comments on their fans forum after I asked for their opinion on Sevco trying to screw their way into the English leagues. Subsequently got banned from it after I pulled  the poster up for being a wee dickhead. 

 

[Beast Boy]

14 minutes ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

I have seen You Tube videos of Hibs marching to Tynecastle and Hearts marching to Easter Road, gotta say that's how it should be, just a few old bill escorting but not stopping the buzz. Saw the Hearts victory in the recent local derby on TV, Hearts fans were bloody awesome. Must have been amazing to have been there, before, during and after. 

Opposition fans are cordoned in to different areas and pubs before and after the game. There’s some mixing obviously, but certain pubs are known as being for either Hearts or Hibs before and afterwards. After a derby at Tynecastle the Hibs support are sent down MacLeod Street towards Roseburn, and the Roseburn bar is their pub before and after games. Hearts support head towards Gorgie Road. Not unusual for Hearts supporters living in the area of Easter Road to be sent off in the opposite direction to their actual house/flat and vice-versa. Plenty who just make their own way away from large crowds and just do their own thing though too. 

[CARDIFFBOY]

4 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Opposition fans are cordoned in to different areas and pubs before and after the game. There’s some mixing obviously, but certain pubs are known as being for either Hearts or Hibs before and afterwards. After a derby at Tynecastle the Hibs support are sent down MacLeod Street towards Roseburn, and the Roseburn bar is their pub before and after games. Hearts support head towards Gorgie Road. Not unusual for Hearts supporters living in the area of Easter Road to be sent off in the opposite direction to their actual house/flat and vice-versa. Plenty who just make their own way away from large crowds and just do their own thing though too. 

So on a non match day would Hearts fans go to Leith for food and drinks and Hibs fans be seen socialising in Gorgie or does each group respect and stay in their own areas for pubs and meals out etc? I have seen you tube clips of Leith and although the waterfront areas have been redeveloped the area doesn't look that brilliant? 

[Beast Boy]

3 minutes ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

So on a non match day would Hearts fans go to Leith for food and drinks and Hibs fans be seen socialising in Gorgie or does each group respect and stay in their own areas for pubs and meals out etc? I have seen you tube clips of Leith and although the waterfront areas have been redeveloped the area doesn't look that brilliant? 

Nah, we are pretty evenly spread throughout the city tbh. Capital City so there’s loads of folk who don’t support either club too. 

[Last Laff]

They probably don’t. Why would they?  Just because they don’t all love HMFC enough to protest against future possible demotion to look after themselves I wouldn’t say they hate the club.

 

If it was St Johnstone bottom and we would have done similar and it’s nothing to do with hate of a club. 

[Last Laff]

15 minutes ago, CARDIFFBOY said:

So on a non match day would Hearts fans go to Leith for food and drinks and Hibs fans be seen socialising in Gorgie or does each group respect and stay in their own areas for pubs and meals out etc? I have seen you tube clips of Leith and although the waterfront areas have been redeveloped the area doesn't look that brilliant? 

Leiths a ****ing shithole.  Best avoided. 

[CARDIFFBOY]

4 minutes ago, Last Laff said:

Leiths a ****ing shithole.  Best avoided. 

Say no more! HHGH

[CARDIFFBOY]

21 hours ago, Jingle Bells said:

Saw the 1990s version in action at Brisbane Road. Game as ****.

The 2010 lads taking it to the Chelsea on Kings Road weren't bad either! That resulted in loads of lads doing time and changed the casual Hooligan scene here, definitely a watershed. 

[Tokyo Drifter]

On 21/04/2020 at 13:07, jamboinglasgow said:

Mentioned this on another thread but thought it would be interesting to have a wider discussion. 

 

I have found certainly in the last few years that outwith the old firm, we are the most hated club in Scotland. Certainly it makes sense that Hibs, Celtic and Aberdeen fans would hate us, but I am wondering what is it that fans of other clubs really do not like us? Do they see us as the big club outwith the old firm who they want to take down a peg? Do they think we have an attitude that grates? Just curious what it is.

 

I would say I am not looking for Hearts to be loved by fans of other teams, just want to know what is it that other teams cant stand us more than other teams.

 

I'm not sure it's true, actually though playing Devil's Advocate I'd say it's our sense of entitlement. We always think we're better than we are or should be better than we are. Plus we've got the coolest badge, coolest kit and coolest ground!

[dannymack]

On 21/04/2020 at 13:34, Sir Gio said:

Media portrayal. Hammer throwers.

 

Fan portrayal,  diet hun shit for example,  not helped by the union flag. 

 

Jealousy. A lot of clubs would want our support,  our stadium,  our love for the club. 

 

Rivalry. Clubs round about see us as a threat to their success and would realise shit is not our normal,  not this level,  having us out the way is a boost to their chances 

 

The Union Flag is not owned by Glasgow Rangers Football Club, anyone who identifies the Union Flag with Rangers need their heads examined. 

The 'Wee/Diet Huns (without the bus fare ) is tiresome and pathetic but then again what do you expect if it's getting highlighted by someone who is anti establishment. 

 

'We Are Hearts, Super Hearts, No One Likes Us, We Don't Care ! '

[JimmyCant]

My thoughts 

 

This started in the late 70’s & 80’s when we were not a nice away support to have in your town. If we couldn’t fight you or fight the police we’d fight each other and in A lot of cases we’d wreck your town and scare your people shitless.

 

After Dens in 86 folk ripped us for years and we didn’t take kindly to that either. Our conspiracy theory on st mirren is still scoffed at to this day, rightly it wrongly.

 

I think a lot of folk actually liked us for a while around that first cup win. Certainly haven’t seen a losing support stay and stand an applaud like Rangers did that day at the end of the game.

 

Romanov was where it really started to go down the pan. Picking the team by fax. Sacking managers, calling out everybody under the sun. The minutes silence. Miko against Scotland. Miko against Davis. 2 more cup wins spending more than we had. It all added up.

 

Add to that the general impression that we are cousins of William, something we should have shaken off by now but a certain percentage won’t grow up and let it go.

 

I think only two clubs actively hate us with any kind of passion in this day and age and the feeling is entirely mutual.

Edited April 23, 2020 by JimmyCant

[KillieMitch]

Outside view (from someone who doesn't hate hearts I should add...)

 

There's an unfortunate crossover between a minority of Hearts fans who spout shite and some of those fans also being pundits/speaking up all the time in the media. 

 

The thing that irks other fans from that minority is the sense of entitlement. No dispute Hearts are a massive club who should be higher up the league etc, but the language you hear from that minority all the time is often really patronising. 

 

The worst offender is the phrase "teams like..." that someone like Allan Preston uses all the time. "Hearts should be beating teams like Kilmarnock." That riles folk up no end. Disconnect between historical fact and present day reality. 

[Sarah O]

7 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

The Union Flag is not owned by Glasgow Rangers Football Club, anyone who identifies the Union Flag with Rangers need their heads examined. 

The 'Wee/Diet Huns (without the bus fare ) is tiresome and pathetic but then again what do you expect if it's getting highlighted by someone who is anti establishment. 

 

'We Are Hearts, Super Hearts, No One Likes Us, We Don't Care ! '

Yay! A flag debate about a flag that's nothing to do with football! 

 

IBTL

[Locky]

On 21/04/2020 at 13:52, Horatio Caine said:

Yeah but Hibs are from the capital and they're just wonderful.  Leith has become trendy, mind you..

I think fans of other clubs think they're arseholes too, but I think there's more a degree of sympathy towards them from some. They're a parody of themselves half the time.

[jamboinglasgow]

41 minutes ago, KillieMitch said:

Outside view (from someone who doesn't hate hearts I should add...)

 

There's an unfortunate crossover between a minority of Hearts fans who spout shite and some of those fans also being pundits/speaking up all the time in the media. 

 

The thing that irks other fans from that minority is the sense of entitlement. No dispute Hearts are a massive club who should be higher up the league etc, but the language you hear from that minority all the time is often really patronising. 

 

The worst offender is the phrase "teams like..." that someone like Allan Preston uses all the time. "Hearts should be beating teams like Kilmarnock." That riles folk up no end. Disconnect between historical fact and present day reality. 

 

Thanks, I did wonder if that  could be a main part.

 

That annoys me when I am at games and any team that isn't the old firm is usually described as "shite" we should be beating even if that team is on a large winning streak, dominating games and clearly much better than us. 

[eck1874]

Looks like I have the same feelings about many of the clubs that they have about us. 
 

Celtic - despise

Rangers - despise

Hibs - despise

Aberdeen - dislike

Motherwell - don’t bother me

stjohnstone - dislike

stmirren - Despise

Hamilton - Hate

kilmarnock - dislike

Ross County - don’t bother me

Livingston - dislike
 

 

Edited April 23, 2020 by eck1874

[colinmaroon]

 

Envy!

 

 

[IveSeenTheLight]

10 hours ago, dannymack said:

'We Are Hearts, Super Hearts, No One Likes Us, We Don't Care ! '

 

No offence, but that is a tune that is definitely associated with the Blue Arse Cheek.

In all my visits to Tynecastle or when you guys come up north, I can't recall Hearts signing this, morover its "H.E.A.R.T.S...." or "Hello, Hello, we are the Gorgie boys" (another tune incidentally, synonymous with the Blue Arse Cheek), but never the "no-one likes us, we don;t care"

 

I don't hate Hearts, if anything its respect as games against Hearts are always tough, regardless of how both teams form are.

I may not like how you play at times, or some of the choice of songs you sing, but that's part of football, there's nothing to hate about it .

 

Aberdeen and Hearts don't have a rivalry as such, but I would say that both are teams should be competing against each other in many aspects. We are similar sized clubs with similar budgets.

In anticipation, yes, I concede that Hearts have a larger home support than Aberdeen, whilst I'd expect Hearts fans to acknowledge that Aberdeen are more successful commercially in other areas, meaning that financially we are in the same ball park.

 

Every season is a new slate and I always expect that the main challenge (to Aberdeen) in the league should come from Hearts / Hibs, whilst other teams can temporarily punch above their expectations i.e. Motherwell, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone (a few seasons ago). Thats not to concede that we all aim to punch above our targets each year.

[martoon]

We don't do to badly for a "hated" club if the amount of visiting fans to this site is a guide. 

 

@IveSeenTheLight

@Redhelen

@MosesMcNeil

@KillieMitch

@CARDIFFBOY

 

...also the Arab and the Barnsley lad who's names I don't recall off the top of my head. 

 

Probably others too that have either slipped my mind or I'm unaware of. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2020 by martoon

[IveSeenTheLight]

3 minutes ago, martoon said:

We don't do to badly for a "hated" club if the amount of visiting fans to this site is a guide. 

 

@IveSeenTheLight

@Redhelen

@MosesMcNeil

@KillieMitch

@CARDIFFBOY

 

...also the Arab and the Barnsley lad who's names I don't recall off the top of my head. 

 

Probably others too that have either slipped my mind or I'm unaware of. 

 

Those are just a fraction of the "Hibs Interlopers" that you guys think are in here and may understandably have that rival hatred toward Hearts

[martoon]

3 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

 

Those are just a fraction of the "Hibs Interlopers" that you guys think are in here and may understandably have that rival hatred toward Hearts

 

They don't count, bud. Either on JKB or everyday life. 😁

[Marvin]

On 22/04/2020 at 07:18, OldGorgie said:

he must be as thick as shit if he thinks an executive in a company in serious financial trouble would read such drivel. Would be interesting to see where he works.

 

He signs on at the job centre in Leith. 

[EIEIO]

Plenty of Hearts fans (on here) hate the club why should other teams fans be any different.

For the record until this vote to relegate Thistle, Stranraer and potentially us I only hated RanTic and the Vermin with a healthy dislike for St Mirren and Falkirk. Since tbe vote the above plus every other club that voted yes are now on my hate list. Maybe if there is reconstruction normal service will be resumed.

[Mr Rabbit]

On 21/04/2020 at 18:47, gowestjambo said:

 

The above statement really says it all. We seem to be stuck in a vacuum.  We have an inferiority complex against the Old Firm and a Superiority Complex against everyone else. Our record against the likes of Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and St Mirren is pathetic. We only seem to be up for the battle against hibs. We should be dominating the bottom six, but seem to think we only have to turn up to win. As Criag Levein stated in his early days (Yes him!!) You need to win the battle before you win the game. Unfortunately, we appear to hand the initiative to the opposition from KO.

 

It is time we got back to being a team of Fighters. and if other teams hate us - it should be for the reason that we turn them over!!

 

This sums it up for me.

 

We also have a growing element in our away support who hold the ‘traditional’ mindset which won’t help and is embarrassing. 

 

I would also say there’s not much love for Anne Budge amongst other fans either. Whilst she initially came across as someone who was different and willing to challenge the status quo she’s made a few errors of judgement which in turn make her come across a condescending.

[Beast Boy]

16 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

The minutes silence

?

[j1964m]

https://www.strawpoll.me/6566195/r

[weekend offender]

9 minutes ago, j1964m said:

https://www.strawpoll.me/6566195/r

Just voted, Ceptic for me, f#kin rats

[Weakened Offender]

I don't think we are universally hated. I go to most away matches and always have a drink before/after the match and, on the whole, its OK, Ugly Sisters included. 

 

Things people respect (not necessarily like though) about us is the overall Derby dominance and how we rallied around the club when facing liquidation. Supporters also like Tynecastle. 

 

What clubs do hate is the loyalist element and the delusions of grandeur. 

[Weakened Offender]

12 hours ago, KillieMitch said:

Outside view (from someone who doesn't hate hearts I should add...)

 

There's an unfortunate crossover between a minority of Hearts fans who spout shite and some of those fans also being pundits/speaking up all the time in the media. 

 

The thing that irks other fans from that minority is the sense of entitlement. No dispute Hearts are a massive club who should be higher up the league etc, but the language you hear from that minority all the time is often really patronising. 

 

The worst offender is the phrase "teams like..." that someone like Allan Preston uses all the time. "Hearts should be beating teams like Kilmarnock." That riles folk up no end. Disconnect between historical fact and present day reality. 

 

FWIW, Preston is an absolute welt. 

[1971fozzy]

On 21/04/2020 at 22:27, Morgan said:

Kevin Moffat.   

 

What an out and out tool.

a prick that sums that club up as a whole. 

[OldGorgie]

Interesting that in a previous time of national emergency like WW1, Hearts were the only club whose whole team volunteered. Now with another national emergency what happens. The rest of the league throw us on the bonfire in return for cash. Yet still Budge pursues the line of sporting integrity. 

[TorinoJambo]

On 22 April 2020 at 17:29, Special Officer Doofy said:

Nah, we are pretty evenly spread throughout the city tbh. Capital City so there’s loads of folk who don’t support either club too. 

However, the Lothians, and to a lesser extent, the borders and Fife, have loads of Jambos. I'm from Penicuik and it is teeming with us.