Leveins Battalion Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEDNAR BOY Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Because they’ve both proved to be really successful in management so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 My thoughts are that he is wrong. Pressley has failed in every one of his managerial posts. McCann has had one managers job and also failed. Stendel is far superior to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Jambos_1874 said: My thoughts are that he is wrong. Pressley has failed in every one of his managerial posts. McCann has had one managers job and also failed. Stendel is far superior to both. To be honest Stendel was probably a case of the right man at totally the wrong time. We've been a shames this season, but dull and solid would probably have seen us through once the injured players were back. Stendel's approach has pretty much been one of chaos theory with tactics totally unsuited to the current squad. Conversely, Stendel would probably have been the perfect man to replace Neilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Jobs for the boys culture that, surprised by Callum. Pressley would’ve divided us more when we needed to be unified. McCann a high risk and I doubt he’d have gotten anything more out of this pile of overpaid shite who don’t need to win games to take home a nice pay packet. Why isn’t anyone in the SMSM going after Levein for the contracts? Or Budge if she was the one who thought paying a higher basic salary ‘was a nice thing to do’? That’s where all the issues stem from, the players don’t give a **** and we only see them try on big TV games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Aw ok then. So this is all Daniels fault is it? Wouldn’t want either of these two at Tynecastle. They’ve not had managerial success anywhere yet Daniel managed to promote Barnsley In his first season. Daniel will go to higher echelons than these two. In what way does CE think players like Wighton, Uche and Mclean would be improved by Elvis and Terry? If I was taking an educated guess here, I’m thinking Elliot thinks DS won’t be back due to his relegation clause and is starting to bang the drum for his two pals to get the gig in any event. Do one Calum! Edited April 11, 2020 by Saughton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylejordan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 It really grates on me when ex players or pundits come out and say you need a manager who knows the league. Did anyone say this about Guardiola when he went to city (yes understand completely different clubs and state of the clubs) but the players know the league, they should know how to listen to bloody instructions. What Stendel brought in wasn’t rocket science. I for one am grateful we didn’t bring in Pressley or McCann or Robinson or Wright. They would of just let the same players ample on by whilst we fight relegation so meekly. All those guys I rank alongside Levein so if they weren’t playing for Levein why do we think they would of played for any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Two men who have proven themselves to be poor managers elsewhere? Why would they have miraculously turned in to good managers at Tynecastle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Absolute croffles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, David McCaig said: To be honest Stendel was probably a case of the right man at totally the wrong time. We've been a shames this season, but dull and solid would probably have seen us through once the injured players were back. Stendel's approach has pretty much been one of chaos theory with tactics totally unsuited to the current squad. Conversely, Stendel would probably have been the perfect man to replace Neilson. I think that's a fair point. I think the type of football thaf Stendel wants us to play is not compatible with a relegation dogfight - that was very clear in the StMirren game, although we were awful as well. If he had taken over following Neilson when we were confident and flying high then that would have been a different matter. In fairness to Stendel there was some evidence he was changing tactics to suit our predicament. Also, although I was no fan of Cathro and his communication skills were apalling, he actually had the right idea about how we should play and I genuinely think he was tactically astute, it's just that those tactics would have only worked with players far, far better than what we have ever had and he did not recognise that, amazingly. Edited April 11, 2020 by Jambos_1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Clum should stick to dancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Two men who have proven themselves to be poor managers elsewhere? Why would they have miraculously turned in to good managers at Tynecastle? We didn't need someone to be good, we needed someone not to be so bad that Hamilton/St Mirren sped off into the sunset. We needed someone who didn't fail to win every single game against bottom 6 opposition. I blame Ann Budge and I blame Craig Levein, but Daniel Stendel has had half a season and there has been no improvement. Indeed his last match at St Mirren was one of THE worst Hearts performances I've ever had the misfortune to witness. I would have sacked him that evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: We didn't need someone to be good, we needed someone not to be so bad that Hamilton/St Mirren sped off into the sunset. We needed someone who didn't fail to win every single game against bottom 6 opposition. I blame Ann Budge and I blame Craig Levein, but Daniel Stendel has had half a season and there has been no improvement. Indeed his last match at St Mirren was one of THE worst Hearts performances I've ever had the misfortune to witness. I would have sacked him that evening. It’s all been done to death. Doesn't change the fact McCann and Pressley aren’t good managers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: It’s all been done to death. Doesn't change the fact McCann and Pressley aren’t good managers though. I agree with that... I was firmly in the Stephen Robinson camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I agree with that... I was firmly in the Stephen Robinson camp. Me too.Dont mind Stendel though. If we did get relegated and DS left would Robinson still be interested? Still the biggest job outside the 2 manky mobs I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Me too.Dont mind Stendel though. If we did get relegated and DS left would Robinson still be interested? Still the biggest job outside the 2 manky mobs I think. Hearts in the Championship is still the 3rd biggest job in Scottish Football. Season 1 probably equals a guaranteed title for whoever is in position as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 I certainly think McCann has potential as a manager,Pressley on the other hand, has failed in every job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Total rubbish from clum! Daniel Stendel came into a sinking ship that was in serious decline for the previous 18months , the previous management team left a total shambles behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Barely if any improvement under stendal tbh, he's stuck to his style with players unable to play it. Tbh his lack of pragmatism has potentially put the final nail in the coffin. Hard to say Clum is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 It’s difficult to say clum is wrong but they would have been short term appointment and would only have delayed the inevitable if wasn’t this season. Clear out required! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. It's irrelevant but im glad we got Stendel. Whatever league we end up in next season i want Stendel backed to build HIS squad. Levein got time, too much time, Stendel will get this right but it will take time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 I think he should stick to camp dancing with his pals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: My thoughts are that he is wrong. Pressley has failed in every one of his managerial posts. McCann has had one managers job and also failed. Stendel is far superior to both. 100% this. Both players were great servants to this club but doesn't mean their opinion is correct. I'd have Daniel before either of the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumelzier Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Clum should stick to dancing. or goalkeeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I go down to see Carlisle a few times a season when Hearts are not playing. Their fans couldn't wait to get rid of Pressley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Another crazy foreigner taking jobs off gid Scottish laddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 His logic being the we needed someone who knows how the opposition play. How does that app!y to Phressley? Utter drivel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 My thoughts? He’s wrong, and particularly in the case of Pressley, their records indicates this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Papers pushing this type of shite is part of the reason Scottish football is a dinosaur bone yard. with everything else going on with Scottish football this week we will never achieve progress in this country, no wonder we get ridiculed by the footballing world. The kids down the park could organise a tournament better than the governing board here. sorry folks, didn’t sleep well, rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 No and No. McCann great player first time round, shadow of his former self when he came back. Pressely was a great player till the legs (like Berra) started to go and since then his life appears to be all about excuses and blaming other folk. Neither should darken the managers door at Tynecastle. Stendal’s on a hiding to nothing with our current squad. If we are forced out the Premiership & Stendal doesn’t return then gut the place, top to bottom. Same as 2014. All new management team and at least 90% of the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 McCann is a crap manager, Presley is an awful manager and Stendel has been a dreadful manager at Hearts so far. In fact Stendel's entire season both here and at Barnsley has been a giant shitfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Neither of those two would've been the answer in my view That doesn't mean that Stendel has been a successful appointment though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 He’s probably right. Guid Scottish people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This sums up why ex-footballers opinions should NOT be sought. Whenever you read or listen to an ex-pro just ask yourself if some no mark in a boozer came out with the same ramblings would you bother with him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Hearts is still an attractive job as whoever succeeds in turning us round will get noticed and will get offers - Even if it is just the likes of MK Dons! I'm still hoping that man is Stendel. However, we sadly need another clearout of players...as they are the problem more than the manager now. They've failed under 3 managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Clum should stick to dancing. Beat me to it. Though always felt a bit sorry for him after he was assaulted by Shagger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsmakesomenoise Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr 3 Putt said: Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. It's irrelevant but im glad we got Stendel. Whatever league we end up in next season i want Stendel backed to build HIS squad. Levein got time, too much time, Stendel will get this right but it will take time. If we are relegated, which seems likely, I don't think Stendel will manage another game for us. So we better start preparing ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Another good lad Calum doing very well at Tynecastle FC and has built a fine team from more or less scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mundaydog said: No and No. McCann great player first time round, shadow of his former self when he came back. Pressely was a great player till the legs (like Berra) started to go and since then his life appears to be all about excuses and blaming other folk. Neither should darken the managers door at Tynecastle. Stendal’s on a hiding to nothing with our current squad. If we are forced out the Premiership & Stendal doesn’t return then gut the place, top to bottom. Same as 2014. All new management team and at least 90% of the first team I agree. An almost entire clear out. I would say that is needed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, letsmakesomenoise said: If we are relegated, which seems likely, I don't think Stendel will manage another game for us. So we better start preparing ...... He's signed a 2 and a half year contract, see no reason why he won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 I actually think he is right maybe after Stendal leaves we should get pressley and McCann in as a double team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWF Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 What we are continuing to see here is the reactionary mentality which prevails in many walks of life.Football and ALL its contributors have very little if any proactivity. A mirror of our political classes attitude and approach to Covid19 I'll wager there are likely many changes afoot in our society (including footie) post Covid19! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 I’m sorry but Callum Elliot was a bang average player at best his opinion means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Back to football (somewhat),I read this morning former Hearts Striker Callum Elliot in the EEN stating this seasons catastrophe could have been avoided if we had appointed McCann or Pressley rather than Daniel Stendel. Thoughts?🤔 Not sure about McCann but I'd have taken Elvis quite happily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said: Not sure about McCann but I'd have taken Elvis quite happily. Why? He has failed as a manager at every club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr 3 Putt said: Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. It's irrelevant but im glad we got Stendel. Whatever league we end up in next season i want Stendel backed to build HIS squad. Levein got time, too much time, Stendel will get this right but it will take time. This👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Clum has never been the brightest star in the sky tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 hours ago, heartandsoul said: I go down to see Carlisle a few times a season when Hearts are not playing. Their fans couldn't wait to get rid of Pressley. The fans of every club he's managed couldn't wait to see the back of him. He must have the worst managerial record in the UK. Great player and captain for us, but an utter bawbag of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 He’s right the appointment of Stendall took too long and he then took a long time to get to grips with Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brownlee Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Jambos_1874 said: My thoughts are that he is wrong. Pressley has failed in every one of his managerial posts. McCann has had one managers job and also failed. Stendel is far superior to both. Both these Huns would burn bridges in a second to jump on the Hun bandwagon.better without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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