Footballfirst Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 There's a good article on Leon Jones in today's Sunday Mail (can't find online though). You might be able to read it through this link though. https://www.pressreader.com/article/282316797148677 He's had no regrets since leaving Hearts for a scholarship at the University of Kentucky. He may even end up playing for the Chinese national side (through his Hong Kong born mother). He says that Craig Levein told him he was too small, which is why he wasn't offered more than a one year contract. I'm glad that things have worked out for him. He was a smart lad and I think he could have made the grade at Hearts if the management had faith in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Levein would have told Messi he was too small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: There's a good article on Leon Jones in today's Sunday Mail (can't find online though). You might be able to read it through this link though. https://www.pressreader.com/article/282316797148677 He's had no regrets since leaving Hearts for a scholarship at the University of Kentucky. He may even end up playing for the Chinese national side (through his Hong Kong born mother). He says that Craig Levein told him he was too small, which is why he wasn't offered more than a one year contract. I'm glad that things have worked out for him. He was a smart lad and I think he could have made the grade at Hearts if the management had faith in him. Too ****ing small... I'll die a happy man when all connections to that man are finally cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Remember him helping Scotland U16s beat England in Victory Shield. Surprised he wasn't rated. Chris Hamilton shows maybe the lesson has been learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, OTT said: Too ****ing small... I'll die a happy man when all connections to that man are finally cut. + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: There's a good article on Leon Jones in today's Sunday Mail (can't find online though). You might be able to read it through this link though. https://www.pressreader.com/article/282316797148677 He's had no regrets since leaving Hearts for a scholarship at the University of Kentucky. He may even end up playing for the Chinese national side (through his Hong Kong born mother). He says that Craig Levein told him he was too small, which is why he wasn't offered more than a one year contract. I'm glad that things have worked out for him. He was a smart lad and I think he could have made the grade at Hearts if the management had faith in him. Heard the same from someone who knows him. I thought he sought pastures new on his own account as he was one that definitely had something about him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Levein told me I was an inch or two too small. Is it any wonder we are where we are with this total dickhead in charge? Will be glad, no overjoyed when the spectre of this man never haunts Tynecastle again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I opened this thread thinking it was about Leon Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Too small That ***** is still on the payroll. ****ing parasite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Yoda said: + 1 37 minutes ago, OTT said: Too ****ing small... I'll die a happy man when all connections to that man are finally cut. +2 we should have a `Delighted Levein is gone` day,its happening soon....... good luck Leon lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, John mcCartney said: +2 we should have a `Delighted Levein is gone` day,its happening soon....... good luck Leon lad I'll believe that when he's finally gone Budge I'm sure would love nothing more than an excuse to retain him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I struggle with this obsession with height we hear about, not just from CL but other managers and coaches too. Thank goodness CL didn't have any say when Robbo signed for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small McLeish did, when he was Rangers manager, and offered him on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: I struggle with this obsession with height we hear about, not just from CL but other managers and coaches too. Thank goodness CL didn't have any say when Robbo signed for us! Yet he played for years with him - one of our greatest ever strikers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: I struggle with this obsession with height we hear about, not just from CL but other managers and coaches too. Thank goodness CL didn't have any say when Robbo signed for us! When did Robbo play centre half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: I'll believe that when he's finally gone Budge I'm sure would love nothing more than an excuse to retain him My worry too. Need Budge, Levein, MacPhee, Murray and just about all those imposters who play for us to get to ****. Fair play to Leon Jones for trying something different. The too small comment is so Scottish football. Plenty of successful smaller centre backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Levein was obsessed with size . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Crete said: Levein was obsessed with size . Still likes the land of the giants idea up front How that man has been allowed to take Hsarts in the direction we've witnessed over past few years is a scandal really Clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Tbf there are not many 5’10 centre halves in British football, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, buzzbomb said: Tbf there are not many 5’10 centre halves in British football, if any. This. In British football you need to be 6’ plus to play centre half. It’s absolutely not an issue in other countries when the ball almost never leaves the ground. Cannavarro and Mascherano would’ve struggled in this country playing centre half when the ball literally gets shelled up the park to some 6’5 donkey 90% of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small And his pal, Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, buzzbomb said: Tbf there are not many 5’10 centre halves in British football, if any. Exactly. If you look at the EPL our squad is tiny by comparison. I always remember when Spurs played at Tynecastle and our players physically (as well as technically) looked like kids by comparison. Unfortunately, smaller players do need to be better players to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 To be fair don't think he was ever going to make into Hearts first team at the time, very commited player, Hearts at time well covered for centre halves, but was a good player at his level. We will never know as may have got a run re our recent problems at centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, buzzbomb said: Tbf there are not many 5’10 centre halves in British football, if any. I'd also like to see a list of those told they were too small who played for a bigger club/at a higher level than Hearts. It should be endless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small Or played him at left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, John mcCartney said: +2 we should have a `Delighted Levein is gone` day,its happening soon....... good luck Leon lad I'd wait and see. Major decision time for budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Levein might have been right with this one though. Nothing against the lad but this is a bit of a non story. Stendel seems to like big players too by look of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Horatio Caine said: I struggle with this obsession with height we hear about, not just from CL but other managers and coaches too. Thank goodness CL didn't have any say when Robbo signed for us! John Colquhoun or Colin Cameron wounldn't have got a sniff either. More lumps like Cole Stockton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Folk getting all excited. Not many "short" centre halves in the Scottish or British game is there. Imagine a 5'10 centre defending the shells to the likes of Cosgrove etc. Unfortunately you need to be over 6ft in Scotland to be a centre half. Not even news, it's actually pretty much a fact, backed up by the heights of.... The centre halves in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Folk getting all excited. Not many "short" centre halves in the Scottish or British game is there. Imagine a 5'10 centre defending the shells to the likes of Cosgrove etc. Unfortunately you need to be over 6ft in Scotland to be a centre half. Not even news, it's actually pretty much a fact, backed up by the heights of.... The centre halves in the league. In fairness you could be 5'6 and still beat Uche in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Or played him at left back. Reference Demetri Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, DS98 said: This. In British football you need to be 6’ plus to play centre half. It’s absolutely not an issue in other countries when the ball almost never leaves the ground. Cannavarro and Mascherano would’ve struggled in this country playing centre half when the ball literally gets shelled up the park to some 6’5 donkey 90% of the game. They wouldn't cut it on a cold night in dingwall. Edited April 6, 2020 by Ainsley Harriott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said: Reference Demetri Mitchell Is that the same guy we signed on loan from Man U AS A LEFT BACK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 My brother helped Leon sort his move to KCU, says he's a great laddie and convinced he'll get picked up in the MLS draft when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The guy moved on from Hearts and has played college football since. He's hardly setting the world on fire now is he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 21 hours ago, Hungry hippo said: Exactly. If you look at the EPL our squad is tiny by comparison. I always remember when Spurs played at Tynecastle and our players physically (as well as technically) looked like kids by comparison. Unfortunately, smaller players do need to be better players to compensate. This actually really annoyed me and still does. I realise genetics are genetics and the guys that play in the EPL have insane talent too but there is nothing prohibiting SPL players matching that physicality. Its ridiculous. They are well paid and full time professionals. Callum Paterson is probably the only player in recent times who actually had the physicality to match up against EPL pro's. Coming out 2nd best in this category seems to me to be an issue around professionalism. A quote from Walker around 2016 (age 23) about stopping eating sweets and fizzy juice has really helped kick his game on really stuck out to me. Our game is woefully unprofessional up here and no one seems to actually attempt to maintain a high standard. Its ridiculous. Diet and personal fitness are 100% in every professionals hands and its so disappointing to see us paying thousands of pounds to these players and they can't even stay away from bloody Haribo for the sake of their career. If Stendel can bring in this level of professionalism at last then we should be forever grateful for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 hours ago, JamboAl said: Is that the same guy we signed on loan from Man U AS A LEFT BACK? I believe so. Don’t think he’d played there before though and Nicky Butt was trying to convert him from a left winger to a hybrid type left back/wing back. I’m sure it was a failed experiment whichever way you view it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 "Scottish football's goldfish bowl or a dream move to the MLS" That's plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, jambogemz said: The guy moved on from Hearts and has played college football since. He's hardly setting the world on fire now is he. His uni has better faculties than most teams out with the top 4-5 in Scotland. If he was still with us he’d be on loan to a Stirling or stenny or something. He might not be setting the world on fire, but he’s made a very good decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said: I believe so. Don’t think he’d played there before though and Nicky Butt was trying to convert him from a left winger to a hybrid type left back/wing back. I’m sure it was a failed experiment whichever way you view it though You've made a criticism when you don't know. I am sure he played once in the 1st team at LB and many times at lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 14:35, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small Said the same to Berra and Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 15:21, East Lothian Jambo said: I'll believe that when he's finally gone Budge I'm sure would love nothing more than an excuse to retain him Correct ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Levein called this one right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 14:35, Still Tynie said: Levein would have told Messi he was too small So every player CL signed was above average height ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, johnthomas said: So every player CL signed was above average height ? How tall is average height Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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