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Decided to end season now and award Club Brugge the title and the 2nd place team a Champions League space - they've also confirmed no relegation and promoted 2 from the league below wonder if our authorities will do likewise

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eyesandears

Very pragmatic approach and now brings certainty to their member clubs as far the season end finishing places and no doubt related money and player contract matters.

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eyesandears
5 minutes ago, Ehllhayapeh said:

Most sensible and fair outcome in my opinion.

You surprise us!! 🙂 but just to be clear I'll jump on board this train too.

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59 minutes ago, rory78 said:

Decided to end season now and award Club Brugge the title and the 2nd place team a Champions League space - they've also confirmed no relegation and promoted 2 from the league below wonder if our authorities will do likewise

We should have done this 2 weeks ago.

 

Its the ONLY fair solution

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Ehllhayapeh
3 minutes ago, eyesandears said:

You surprise us!! 🙂 but just to be clear I'll jump on board this train too.

It shouldnt be that surprising

 

Hearts being relegated based on games played would be ludicrously unfair under the circumstances as youre not that far off catching those above. 

 

Denying United who have been first since day one of the league season and are miles in front would also be entirely unfair on us too.

 

The only fair outcome is expand the Premier League.

 

 

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Bazzas right boot
17 minutes ago, Ehllhayapeh said:

Most sensible and fair outcome in my opinion.

 

Harsh if utd miss out on promotion, but it is the way that mitagates most damage. 

 

I still say an extension to 14 for a season with 3 places up for relegation after is also fair. 

 

Again, mitagates most damage and issues given the circumstances. 

 

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I’ve a feeling there’s no way league reconstruction will be voted through.  I hope we follow suit in this country though. 

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eyesandears
1 minute ago, Ehllhayapeh said:

It shouldnt be that surprising

 

Hearts being relegated based on games played would be ludicrously unfair under the circumstances as youre not that far off catching those above. 

 

Denying United who have been first since day one of the league season and are miles in front would also be entirely unfair on us too.

 

The only fair outcome is expand the Premier League.

 

 

i agree

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Just now, Smith's right boot said:

 

Harsh if utd miss out on promotion, but it is the way that mitagates most damage. 

 

I still say an extension to 14 for a season with 3 places up for relegation after is also fair. 

 

Again, mitagates most damage and issues given the circumstances. 

 


Not really, Utd have budgeted for promotion as have Cove.  Stranraer are miles bottom of L1 Cove miles ahead L2.  In both circumstances both sides have been preparing for life after promotion and probably budgeted to suit.  It would be extremely damaging to disallow them promotion. 

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Ehllhayapeh
4 minutes ago, Last Laff said:

I’ve a feeling there’s no way league reconstruction will be voted through.  I hope we follow suit in this country though. 

 

Its extremely abnormal circumstances. Clearly the SPFL is waiting for other leagues to make a move and take a precedent from them. Belgium has made a move. Thankfully the one move on the table is also the one most people would determine as the fairest outcome. If I was the SPFL Id avoid alot of hastle caused by making a different decision and the fall out from it and just follow Belgium.

 

We followed them on the Bosman rule. Might as well do it again.

 

 

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Ehllhayapeh
4 minutes ago, Dirty Deeds said:

Yeah that does seem to say the opposite of the tweet.

 

Hmm...maybe Belgium isnt the precedent we all want after all 🙄🙄

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19 minutes ago, Ehllhayapeh said:

 

Its extremely abnormal circumstances. Clearly the SPFL is waiting for other leagues to make a move and take a precedent from them. Belgium has made a move. Thankfully the one move on the table is also the one most people would determine as the fairest outcome. If I was the SPFL Id avoid alot of hastle caused by making a different decision and the fall out from it and just follow Belgium.

 

We followed them on the Bosman rule. Might as well do it again.

 

 


You would hope so.  But it will be the Prem clubs to decide and the majority won’t want less old firm cash. 

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Heartsofgold
9 minutes ago, Dirty Deeds said:

 

Correct.  The relegation issue will be decided on 15th April when a working group reports on the issue so not confirmed as yet. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52138270 

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Alan Burrows Motherwell chief executive, thinks Scotland will need to make tough decisions as he thinks no football will be played by June.

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kingantti1874

This is exactly the fair solution, 14 team league.

 

i don’t think we will see any fixtures in 2020.. start league in Feb / March next year, 6 week break for Euro’s finish up with fixture on Boxing Day .. 

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kingantti1874
1 minute ago, sac said:

Alan Burrows Motherwell chief executive, thinks Scotland will need to make tough decisions as he thinks no football will be played by June.


unless it’s behind closed doors there is no chance of that happening. 

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Bazzas right boot
1 hour ago, Last Laff said:


Not really, Utd have budgeted for promotion as have Cove.  Stranraer are miles bottom of L1 Cove miles ahead L2.  In both circumstances both sides have been preparing for life after promotion and probably budgeted to suit.  It would be extremely damaging to disallow them promotion. 

 

Budgeting for what "might be" and "what is" are completely different tho in terms of looking at mitigation. 

 

Mitigation in this case is trying to keep as many clubs as they are just now, not making things worse as the season wasn't played out. 

 

Not promoting someone that may have got promoted is different to relegating someone who may have stayed up. 

Restricting opportunity v restricting actual damage

 

Purley from a business and legal point of view utd staying as they are does not damage them, it is keeping them as they are now and have been for the past 4 seasons. 

 

Demoting Hearts is a clear tangible and practical change, a forced change on us. One with financial and business consequences.

 

Mitigation is all about keeping things as is for as many clubs as possible and limiting the damage to clubs as it will lessen legal challenges. 

 

Utd, from a legal point of view would find it difficult to challenge a non promotion, as technically they aren't promoted as things stand and keeping them in the division is not a material or practical change to where they are now. What would they argue? 

 

We were going to be promoted..... 

Aye you might have been, but the pandemic meant you weren't. 

Tough tittie, from a sporting point of view-harsh, but from a legal/ business point of view I feel that mitagating the damage will be priority, as if it's not it will be challenged legally, and likely very easily. 

 

Promoting 2 teams further mitigates the damage. 

 

Voiding the season does the same in terms of mitagating the damage as well, although sponsorship etc is a big issue with that. 

 

 

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maroonsgotop

15 points clear with one game to go before some convoluted split so hardly the most revolutionary decision

 

The Belgian Pro League is set to become the first major European league to be cancelled because of coronavirus.

Club Bruges will be declared champions with the current league table set to stand.

There was one match of the regular season remaining when the league was suspended, with play-offs due to decide the top positions.

The league’s board of directors made the decision and have made a recommendation to the general assembly.

It will be made official on 15 April with a working group to decide relegation and promotion issues.

Club Bruges are 15 points clear of second-placed Gent at the top of the table.

In a statement, the league said: "The board of directors unanimously decided that it was not desirable, whatever the scenario envisaged, to continue the competition after 30 June."

 

 

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5 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

15 points clear with one game to go before some convoluted split so hardly the most revolutionary decision

 

The Belgian Pro League is set to become the first major European league to be cancelled because of coronavirus.

Club Bruges will be declared champions with the current league table set to stand.

There was one match of the regular season remaining when the league was suspended, with play-offs due to decide the top positions.

The league’s board of directors made the decision and have made a recommendation to the general assembly.

It will be made official on 15 April with a working group to decide relegation and promotion issues.

Club Bruges are 15 points clear of second-placed Gent at the top of the table.

In a statement, the league said: "The board of directors unanimously decided that it was not desirable, whatever the scenario envisaged, to continue the competition after 30 June."

 

 

How far behind was the bottom team?

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maroonsgotop
11 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

How far behind was the bottom team?

 2 points (not sure how their split games are worked out and they've not made any other decisions yet (15th April)

 

 

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Hectormasson
3 hours ago, rory78 said:

Decided to end season now and award Club Brugge the title and the 2nd place team a Champions League space - they've also confirmed no relegation and promoted 2 from the league below wonder if our authorities will do likewise

Think we have to follow ,or else some stink will be kicked up?   

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Hectormasson
1 hour ago, sac said:

Alan Burrows Motherwell chief executive, thinks Scotland will need to make tough decisions as he thinks no football will be played by June.

No football this year at all ,   this virus isnt up for going away anytime soon.....

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1 minute ago, Hectormasson said:

No football this year at all ,   this virus isnt up for going away anytime soon.....


A possibility for sure.

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28 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

 2 points (not sure how their split games are worked out and they've not made any other decisions yet (15th April)

 

 

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Normally the top six go into a play off

Brugge’s lead would be halved to 7 points then then the play offs begin

 

Fair decision tbh. Brugge have been consistently the best team in this league this season 

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28 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said:

Normally the top six go into a play off

Brugge’s lead would be halved to 7 points then then the play offs begin

 

Fair decision tbh. Brugge have been consistently the best team in this league this season 

what happens to the teams at the bottom

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Play-offs II (also known as the Europa League playoff) are contested by teams ranked 7 to 16 in the regular season, divided in four groups of four teams playing each other twice (six teams from the Belgian First Division B also take part in playoff II). The team finishing in 16th place is relegated. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said:

Play-offs II (also known as the Europa League playoff) are contested by teams ranked 7 to 16 in the regular season, divided in four groups of four teams playing each other twice (six teams from the Belgian First Division B also take part in playoff II). The team finishing in 16th place is relegated. 
 

 

be interesting to see how they decide promotion/relegation

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Cory McNamara
3 hours ago, Ehllhayapeh said:

The only fair outcome is expand the Premier League.

 

And invite Dundee.

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