N Lincs Jambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Don’t know how to copy from Facebook on my phone but for those of you who speak German (and I know there’s a few on here) but go on FB, search Daniel Stendel 11 Freunde and you will find it. He speaks about quite a few topics but I personally loved it when he explained about his decision to give up 100% of his salary. He said there’s a Scot on his training team whose contract runs out in the summer, there’s a trainer who took a pay-cut to join us from Barnsley and who is due to become a dad in a few weeks. Before these guys should give up cash, I’ll give up mine. Just a top, top guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, N Lincs Jambo said: Don’t know how to copy from Facebook on my phone but for those of you who speak German (and I know there’s a few on here) but go on FB, search Daniel Stendel 11 Freunde and you will find it. He speaks about quite a few topics but I personally loved it when he explained about his decision to give up 100% of his salary. He said there’s a Scot on his training team whose contract runs out in the summer, there’s a trainer who took a pay-cut to join us from Barnsley and who is due to become a dad in a few weeks. Before these guys should give up cash, I’ll give up mine. Just a top, top guy! Excellent. I wonder what Kris Boyd, Fraser Wishart etc think of this selfless action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 🤩😍🤩😍 He needs and hopefully gets a proper run at this job and be judged under normal circumstances.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, JamboAl said: Excellent. I wonder what Kris Boyd, Fraser Wishart etc think of this selfless action. I don't think any of them actually think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just shoved into google translate. Obviously some of it will be translated worlds from ads etc. "The club has to survive" Daniel Stendel waived his full salary in the Corona crisis. The coach of the traditional club Hearts of Midlothian explains his step and the situation in Scotland. R Ulrich head-on From Ron Ulrich PAGES YESTERDAY DIVIDE DIVIDE 1. "The club has to survive" 2. Page 2: "We would legally defend ourselves against this" READ ON ONE SIDE Daniel Stendel, in Glasgow the Rangers received Bayer Leverkusen ahead of the ranks when all major events in Germany had already been canceled or ghost games had been decided. Did the Corona crisis in Scotland arrive later? Yes, it was a bizarre situation. We followed the news of the school closings from Germany, but at the same time normal life in Scotland was still a week longer. That was strange. At the time, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson had refrained from taking measures such as school closings, but now the regulations are even stricter: people can only leave the house once a day. How long did the regular football operations continue? On March 15, our game against Livingston was canceled, and training should be reduced from now on. We left it up to the players whether they go to the weight room or run. On the second day I saw from the office how six players went jogging together in a group. Then that's not the point. Since then we have given the boys fitness exercises for at home. When did you leave Edinburgh? I flew home the following Thursday. It was no longer clear whether and how you could get out of the country at all. The prices for the flights skyrocketed. Our German players Donis Avdijaj and Marcel Langer have now stayed in Edinburgh, for example, and live together in a shared apartment. I flew to Berlin and from there I took the train to Hanover. There was even more going on there than in the capital. Berlin Central Station was spookily empty - a contrast to Edinburgh. Video recommendation powered by The head of your club asked employees for a 50 percent waiver to ensure the survival of the club. How acute is the situation for the Hearts? I don't know the numbers in detail. But the missed semifinals would have earned us half a million, and you can certainly count on six-figure sums per home game. In Scotland, television contracts are not as lucrative as in other countries, so audience revenue is huge. The clubs' finances are comparable to the German Third League. There is already a real risk of financial bankruptcies. "I thought: before these guys have to give up money, I'll do it." Daniel Stendel You have completely waived your salary. Did the chairperson ask you to do this? No, that was my own decision. I also thought of my coaching staff. A Scottish colleague comes from the youth academy, his contract expires in the summer. One of my assistant coaches waived money to get to the Hearts from Barnsley. He'll be a father in a few weeks. It is also a special situation for Jörg (Sievers) because he has left Hanover after all decades to help me with the Hearts. I thought to myself: before these guys have to give up money, I'll do it. READ THE SAME "I can still see the floodlights" Koray Günter is playing the best season of his career for Hellas Verona - until it is canceled. A call to the restricted area. Imago35754649h "Unnecessary and inexplicable" England's non-league teams brave the cancellation of the season in an open letter. Imago41502380h Not too many footballers or coaches have given up their full income in the current situation. It's not that I don't need money. And I certainly don't get the same salary as a second division coach in Germany. But we want the club to be preserved. What use is it to me if I get my money but the club no longer exists? I spoke to my family and they supported the decision. Do the players forego their salary? Steven Naismith is the first to lead the way. The others are still waiting for the explanation of the player union. In a first statement, she advised the players not to comment at first. The clubs probably have a clause in the contracts that would allow them to terminate the players if the game ceases. In the Hearts, however, some people on the board waived salary. Former club officials criticize the chairwoman for doing poorly. On the one hand, they say that fans have collected around ten million for the club in recent years. On the other hand, the Hearts are the only club with these drastic austerity measures. Much of the money donated went to the construction of the new grandstand. And one thing has to be said: Our chairman wants to hand the club over to the fans - and that in an economically sound condition. That is why she is now acting with caution. She doesn't want to fire any employee and plays it safe. Except for the Rangers and Celtic, other Scottish clubs will also have their problems. If the season is stopped at the current level, the hearts will descend. We would legally defend ourselves against that, that is clear. Theoretically, there are still 24 points to be allocated, so you can't just send us to the second division. The possible scenarios also include the possibility of increasing the league. With twelve teams, adding two more would not be a big problem. I personally do not want to endure the sayings like "you would have actually descended". I would love to be able to stay in the sport class, even if it seems difficult to imagine in the current situation. Video recommendation powered by Stendel new2 Daniel Stendel took over the Hearts after stations at Hanover and in Barnsley last December. You can find a long report about his work in Scotland in issue 220: https: // shop .11freunde .de / 11fr… Photos: Robert Ormerod You will also miss a highlight: you would have played the "Edinburgh Derby" against the Hibs in the Scottish Cup semi-final in Hampden Park. Yes, far from the extra income for the club that hurts tremendously. We won the derby a few weeks ago - and the atmosphere was great. No violence in the stadium, just pure adrenaline and joy. With this derby victory and the success against the Rangers, we had a top week before a loss to St. Mirren and the cancellation. We were actually on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirk_Jambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dayman said: Just shoved into google translate. Obviously some of it will be translated worlds from ads etc. "The club has to survive" Daniel Stendel waived his full salary in the Corona crisis. The coach of the traditional club Hearts of Midlothian explains his step and the situation in Scotland. R Ulrich head-on From Ron Ulrich PAGES YESTERDAY DIVIDE DIVIDE 1. "The club has to survive" 2. Page 2: "We would legally defend ourselves against this" READ ON ONE SIDE Daniel Stendel, in Glasgow the Rangers received Bayer Leverkusen ahead of the ranks when all major events in Germany had already been canceled or ghost games had been decided. Did the Corona crisis in Scotland arrive later? Yes, it was a bizarre situation. We followed the news of the school closings from Germany, but at the same time normal life in Scotland was still a week longer. That was strange. At the time, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson had refrained from taking measures such as school closings, but now the regulations are even stricter: people can only leave the house once a day. How long did the regular football operations continue? On March 15, our game against Livingston was canceled, and training should be reduced from now on. We left it up to the players whether they go to the weight room or run. On the second day I saw from the office how six players went jogging together in a group. Then that's not the point. Since then we have given the boys fitness exercises for at home. When did you leave Edinburgh? I flew home the following Thursday. It was no longer clear whether and how you could get out of the country at all. The prices for the flights skyrocketed. Our German players Donis Avdijaj and Marcel Langer have now stayed in Edinburgh, for example, and live together in a shared apartment. I flew to Berlin and from there I took the train to Hanover. There was even more going on there than in the capital. Berlin Central Station was spookily empty - a contrast to Edinburgh. Video recommendation powered by The head of your club asked employees for a 50 percent waiver to ensure the survival of the club. How acute is the situation for the Hearts? I don't know the numbers in detail. But the missed semifinals would have earned us half a million, and you can certainly count on six-figure sums per home game. In Scotland, television contracts are not as lucrative as in other countries, so audience revenue is huge. The clubs' finances are comparable to the German Third League. There is already a real risk of financial bankruptcies. "I thought: before these guys have to give up money, I'll do it." Daniel Stendel You have completely waived your salary. Did the chairperson ask you to do this? No, that was my own decision. I also thought of my coaching staff. A Scottish colleague comes from the youth academy, his contract expires in the summer. One of my assistant coaches waived money to get to the Hearts from Barnsley. He'll be a father in a few weeks. It is also a special situation for Jörg (Sievers) because he has left Hanover after all decades to help me with the Hearts. I thought to myself: before these guys have to give up money, I'll do it. READ THE SAME "I can still see the floodlights" Koray Günter is playing the best season of his career for Hellas Verona - until it is canceled. A call to the restricted area. Imago35754649h "Unnecessary and inexplicable" England's non-league teams brave the cancellation of the season in an open letter. Imago41502380h Not too many footballers or coaches have given up their full income in the current situation. It's not that I don't need money. And I certainly don't get the same salary as a second division coach in Germany. But we want the club to be preserved. What use is it to me if I get my money but the club no longer exists? I spoke to my family and they supported the decision. Do the players forego their salary? Steven Naismith is the first to lead the way. The others are still waiting for the explanation of the player union. In a first statement, she advised the players not to comment at first. The clubs probably have a clause in the contracts that would allow them to terminate the players if the game ceases. In the Hearts, however, some people on the board waived salary. Former club officials criticize the chairwoman for doing poorly. On the one hand, they say that fans have collected around ten million for the club in recent years. On the other hand, the Hearts are the only club with these drastic austerity measures. Much of the money donated went to the construction of the new grandstand. And one thing has to be said: Our chairman wants to hand the club over to the fans - and that in an economically sound condition. That is why she is now acting with caution. She doesn't want to fire any employee and plays it safe. Except for the Rangers and Celtic, other Scottish clubs will also have their problems. If the season is stopped at the current level, the hearts will descend. We would legally defend ourselves against that, that is clear. Theoretically, there are still 24 points to be allocated, so you can't just send us to the second division. The possible scenarios also include the possibility of increasing the league. With twelve teams, adding two more would not be a big problem. I personally do not want to endure the sayings like "you would have actually descended". I would love to be able to stay in the sport class, even if it seems difficult to imagine in the current situation. Video recommendation powered by Stendel new2 Daniel Stendel took over the Hearts after stations at Hanover and in Barnsley last December. You can find a long report about his work in Scotland in issue 220: https: // shop .11freunde .de / 11fr… Photos: Robert Ormerod You will also miss a highlight: you would have played the "Edinburgh Derby" against the Hibs in the Scottish Cup semi-final in Hampden Park. Yes, far from the extra income for the club that hurts tremendously. We won the derby a few weeks ago - and the atmosphere was great. No violence in the stadium, just pure adrenaline and joy. With this derby victory and the success against the Rangers, we had a top week before a loss to St. Mirren and the cancellation. We were actually on the right track. Good atricle, what a guy As an aside, don't use Google translate, use DeepL. It generally provides a far better and more accurate translation Edit. Here's the link https://11freunde.de/artikel/der-klub-muss-überleben/1712082 Edited April 2, 2020 by Selkirk_Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, queensferryjambo said: I don't think any of them actually think! They do but mainly about themselves and not losing out on anything they tyhink they are due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 He'll be gone in the summer. Not bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: He'll be gone in the summer. Not bothered 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, busby1985 said: 😂😂 You think otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: He'll be gone in the summer. Not bothered What makes you think this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: What makes you think this? His relegation clause in his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: His relegation clause in his contract I think they’ll make the season null and void, both here and in England. We’re going to have to start from scratch with our squad though because I think most of these jokers will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: You think otherwise? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 What a guy our Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 56 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: He'll be gone in the summer. Not bothered I agree unfortunately, but I am bothered as I liked him. I can't see how we'd be able to pay him his salary even if we stay up, so it will be up to him to take a cut no doubt if he really wants to stay with us or else it could be a leaving by mutual consent job with him waiving compensation as he seems like that sort. In that case it'll be Robbo or Naismith stepping in IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I get the sense from him he likes it here and to forgo his full salary doesn't suggest to me a manager who wants out in the summer. There may be a relegation clause in the contract but the club and him can still come to an arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I agree unfortunately, but I am bothered as I liked him. I can't see how we'd be able to pay him his salary even if we stay up, so it will be up to him to take a cut no doubt if he really wants to stay with us or else it could be a leaving by mutual consent job with him waiving compensation as he seems like that sort. In that case it'll be Robbo or Naismith stepping in IMO. I think he'd be willing to take a cut if we did go down with some nice promotion bonus instead, because football is going to be ****ed in general after all this, not just Hearts. The amount of money in the EFL isn't going to be there when things resume unless TV money bails them out somehow with a new deal. Wonder how much money the 2nd and 3rd tiers in Germany will retain after all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, kila said: I think he'd be willing to take a cut if we did go down with some nice promotion bonus instead, because football is going to be ****ed in general after all this, not just Hearts. The amount of money in the EFL isn't going to be there when things resume unless TV money bails them out somehow with a new deal. Wonder how much money the 2nd and 3rd tiers in Germany will retain after all this? Dunno but top clubs in Germany contributed to help smaller clubs in trouble, at least down to the 2nd tier level I think. I know which league I'd rather work in if I was Stendel, but it would be great if he stays and gets to build his own team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rudi must stay said: His relegation clause in his contract Surely if he was going to trigger that clause, he'd walk now? Assuming he got the same freedom of termination as the players did when they were offered the pay cut. He's working for free for the foreseeable anyway, so wouldn't really lose anything by resigning. And, the fact we are bottom coupled with the doubts over the rest of the season being played, surely means that the probability of being relegated is higher than ever? I don't get why he would stay on the books voluntary for weeks if not months, only to walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Locky said: Surely if he was going to trigger that clause, he'd walk now? Assuming he got the same freedom of termination as the players did when they were offered the pay cut. He's working for free for the foreseeable anyway, so wouldn't really lose anything by resigning. And, the fact we are bottom coupled with the doubts over the rest of the season being played, surely means that the probability of being relegated is higher than ever? I don't get why he would stay on the books voluntary for weeks if not months, only to walk. Some folk think that just because he has a clause it means he has to leave. They don't understand how clauses work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Taken from an EEN article about the same time as the magazine interview. Personally, I get the feeling that regardless of what the outcome of this season is, he's the type of guy that will say 'I've got unfinished business here and I'm going to take care of that'. Sign up to our Hearts newsletter He wants what’s best for Hearts and to try and make sure the club come out the other end of the current situation in a healthy state. Stendel told Sky Sports: “I would not do it for every club but in the short time I’m at Hearts, the last four months, I have a special feeling for this club and also for Ann and for the work in this club. “It’s a special situation for every club in the world but in the end we want to keep this club so it can play football again after the coronavirus.” As has been revealed by the Evening News previously, there is a relegation clause in Stendel’s contract which allows for a parting of ways if the club drop into the Championship. Hearts are currently four points adrift at the bottom of the Ladbrokes Premiership with eight games remaining. The 45-year-old is confident, however, that if the final matches are played they will survive. “The clause is not only on my side it is on the side of the club,” he said. “My goal is and was to stay up in the league. The club and I need to decide what is best for the club. “When we have the chance to finish the league with 38 games we stay up in the league.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: I agree unfortunately, but I am bothered as I liked him. I can't see how we'd be able to pay him his salary even if we stay up, so it will be up to him to take a cut no doubt if he really wants to stay with us or else it could be a leaving by mutual consent job with him waiving compensation as he seems like that sort. In that case it'll be Robbo or Naismith stepping in IMO. If we go down or end the season bottom(technically) do you think he’ll get another big name job? He might need to make a name if himself here do that he can go elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Some folk think that just because he has a clause it means he has to leave. They don't understand how clauses work. Agreed, a clause signed at the beginning of his employment. Since then, it's fair to say he's developed an attachment to the club and it's supporters and IF we get relegated, I get a sense that he'd want to stay. He seems genuinely principled, a hard concept to get my nut round in the current climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynewater Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I have some sympathy for Stendel, given the dire situation he took over in, his lack of knowledge of the game here, etc... But the bottom line is he achieved very little in the time he had, and there was nothing to indicate that he was making real progress. Bluntly, so far he has failed as our manager. I can't see the future so don't know if he can turn this around, but the signs aren't promising. I too doubt he'll be our manager at the start of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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