Bazzas right boot Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Space Pirate said: If only you were as this concerned 3 years ago. I'm always concerned when things don't go as expected. I just don't get in a panic, launch slaver grenades left, right and centre and become an emotional mess over things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Space Pirate said: If only you were as this concerned 3 years ago. Around 3 years I was very concerned how a surprisingly large group of Hearts fans could think Robbie Neilson was doing a bad job and should leave, after finishing 1st in the Championship and one of the top scorers in Europe that year, 3rd in the Premiership the following season - again scoring a lot - and only losing 3 league games out of 17 the following season taking us to 2nd and well on course for a very rare 2nd 3rd place in a. row. In 6 of those 17 games we'd scored 3 or more goals. And that was with mostly shit strikers after Sow left. Still concerned about that to be honest. I fear no manager will ever satisfy some Hearts fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: Around 3 years I was very concerned how a surprisingly large group of Hearts fans could think Robbie Neilson was doing a bad job and should leave, after finishing 1st in the Championship and one of the top scorers in Europe that year, 3rd in the Premiership the following season - again scoring a lot - and only losing 3 league games out of 17 the following season taking us to 2nd and well on course for a very rare 2nd 3rd place in a. row. In 6 of those 17 games we'd scored 3 or more goals. And that was with mostly shit strikers after Sow left. Still concerned about that to be honest. I fear no manager will ever satisfy some Hearts fans. It was really good when we were smashing posties 10 nil. Can I ask what was your favourite part about Robbie turning into a poundstretcher George Graham the second we won the diddy league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Space Pirate said: He's still here by the way and so is macphee. They've taken a wage cut though... so all is fine. I'll say once more to you, FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 News reporting that other clubs across England adopting similar measures to us. Ann had the foresight to take action. However teams like Man U, Spurs etc take cost cutting measures not one person lays into them like the hassle Ann gets. Just goes to show the hypocrisy that is Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamb0_1874 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Sniff sniff, can anybody else smell that stench... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Haggis Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Very quiet news wise with regards to the Glasgow sides in all of this. Very quiet indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Marvin said: News reporting that other clubs across England adopting similar measures to us. Ann had the foresight to take action. However teams like Man U, Spurs etc take cost cutting measures not one person lays into them like the hassle Ann gets. Just goes to show the hypocrisy that is Scottish football. I read last night that Barca players took a 70% pay cut so the office staff could remain on full or near full pay. 70% of most of the first team players is probably still more than any admin staff mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamb0_1874 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 It looks like Rangers are going down the selling season tickets for next season route. It does make me wonder if there is no football for the rest of the year, what happens, do these clubs need to give the money back to the fans? Would the fans want it back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super T Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, jamb0_1874 said: It looks like Rangers are going down the selling season tickets for next season route. It does make me wonder if there is no football for the rest of the year, what happens, do these clubs need to give the money back to the fans? Would the fans want it back? I think they would need to give it back as it is a prepayment for something not received. Secondly, they would only be able to get their hands on sale proceeds if payed in cash. I would doubt merchant service providers would release any funds until clear that games can be played. Remember we requested folks to pay by cash a few times, if they could, to allow the funds to be utilised. I also seen that holiday companies are being asked for larger deposits to be held with their providers or they won't be releasing funds. I would question how many folk would want to pay cash for season tickets at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamb0_1874 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I guess time will tell. Its a tough one as everybodys budgets are being squeezed and nobody knows what is around the corner yet every football fan wants to help the club that they love. Still putting food on the table has to come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, jamb0_1874 said: It looks like Rangers are going down the selling season tickets for next season route. It does make me wonder if there is no football for the rest of the year, what happens, do these clubs need to give the money back to the fans? Would the fans want it back? Man City are getting dogs for doing the same taking fans direct debits for season tickets but no sure if it for the remainder of this season or next seasons but irrespective they should calm down until at least if they know the season is going to be completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 15 hours ago, jamb0_1874 said: It looks like Rangers are going down the selling season tickets for next season route. It does make me wonder if there is no football for the rest of the year, what happens, do these clubs need to give the money back to the fans? Would the fans want it back? Surely the only safe way to do this is by selling vouchers redeemable against future season tickets, with a seat reservation included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 07:13, Marvin said: News reporting that other clubs across England adopting similar measures to us. Ann had the foresight to take action. However teams like Man U, Spurs etc take cost cutting measures not one person lays into them like the hassle Ann gets. Just goes to show the hypocrisy that is Scottish football. It's a lot to do with the intelligence levels of those that get paid to spew comment about our game. I mean FFS if you are in a crisis business meeting do you listen to Ann Budge or Kriss Boyd!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 04:37, SpruceBringsteen said: It was really good when we were smashing posties 10 nil. Can I ask what was your favourite part about Robbie turning into a poundstretcher George Graham the second we won the diddy league? That will be why we won our first game back in the top league 4-3. Some people dont have spout shite at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: That will be why we won our first game back in the top league 4-3. Some people dont have spout shite at times. Did we not beat Motherwell 6-0 aswell? People had it in for Robbie and made his decision easier to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Clubs in England are getting slaughtered for not cutting players wages. Up here Hearts are getting slaughtered for talking about cutting players wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 This thread was supposed to be about how other teams are doing in this crisis. Turned into a Levein & Neilson bashing thread. Kickback at it's best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Clubs in England are getting slaughtered for not cutting players wages. Up here Hearts are getting slaughtered for talking about cutting players wages. Strange one though I suppose Scottish player get paid a fraction of their English counterparts. However most Scottish players at biggest clubs Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and uglies get a decent wage compared to most other jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Other clubs will be coping like us. The difference being how they are using language to sugar coat what they are doing and also how the MSM decide to report it. ALL clubs repeat all clubs in Scotland are in the same boat, to say otherwise is stupid, ignorant at best. Lots of heads in the sand at clubs in the MSM and the vast majority of football supporters, especially the ones who believe everything in the printed msm and what they hear from pundits( the majority who know **** all) on both the radio and television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Main 6pm BBC news going on yesterday re how some English clubs are adapting to this but as I waited till they mentioned Hearts .......it really is the English news eh? Spurs players on 70k a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 48 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: This thread was supposed to be about how other teams are doing in this crisis. Turned into a Levein & Neilson bashing thread. Kickback at it's best Oh no I missed out on this hadn't realised. Anything in particular I could add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 02:59, ToqueJambo said: Around 3 years I was very concerned how a surprisingly large group of Hearts fans could think Robbie Neilson was doing a bad job and should leave, after finishing 1st in the Championship and one of the top scorers in Europe that year, 3rd in the Premiership the following season - again scoring a lot - and only losing 3 league games out of 17 the following season taking us to 2nd and well on course for a very rare 2nd 3rd place in a. row. In 6 of those 17 games we'd scored 3 or more goals. And that was with mostly shit strikers after Sow left. Still concerned about that to be honest. I fear no manager will ever satisfy some Hearts fans. I agree. I have to laugh at some of the fans on the thread about salary cut talking about players sense of entitlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 31/03/2020 at 20:37, SpruceBringsteen said: It was really good when we were smashing posties 10 nil. Can I ask what was your favourite part about Robbie turning into a poundstretcher George Graham the second we won the diddy league? You may, thanks for asking. 1-0 to the Arsenal George Graham? Maybe look at the scoring record of Neilson's teams in the Premiership as well. And Neilson didn't have Ian Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 Belgium set to call the league and award it to Brugge later this month. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/02/belgium-set-to-be-first-major-european-league-to-end-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 04:37, SpruceBringsteen said: It was really good when we were smashing posties 10 nil. Can I ask what was your favourite part about Robbie turning into a poundstretcher George Graham the second we won the diddy league? Feckin hell. A pounstretcher George Graham... We'd be so lucky. We finished third the season after. Things have really kicked on for us since he left right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: This thread was supposed to be about how other teams are doing in this crisis. Turned into a Levein & Neilson bashing thread. Kickback at it's best The Coronavirus thread and what next thread turned into CL's fault as well. Tbf, with no football and the world issues currently, folk are doing really well to bring it about to a Robbie /cl/ Budge oot thing. It's a thing if beauty to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Burnley giving an insight into the EPL situation here. They could be 50 million down. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/04/burnley-warn-of-50m-loss-due-to-suspension-of-english-football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, tartofmidlothian said: Burnley giving an insight into the EPL situation here. They could be 50 million down. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/04/burnley-warn-of-50m-loss-due-to-suspension-of-english-football Have they thought of giving Kevin Harper or Tam McManus a call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, tartofmidlothian said: Burnley giving an insight into the EPL situation here. They could be 50 million down. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/04/burnley-warn-of-50m-loss-due-to-suspension-of-english-football "The club are one of the better-run outfits..." "Their wage bill of £87m... is among the lowest in the Premier League." Burnley population: 88,527 Burnley FC ground capacity: 21,944 Money spent on transfers in the last 4 years: Over £110m Nothing to see here. Carry on. No need to panic. Completely sustainable. Bubble, what bubble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 28/03/2020 at 13:04, frankblack said: Its only us and Aberdeen in the Scottish Premier that are being honest about it. Aberdeen thought they had a lifeline with insurance but that policy runs out in a month and won't be offered again, leaving them with a problem. Other clubs must be paying less money to their staff but take smaller gates, so relatively speaking they must be in at least the same amount of shit as both us and Aberdeen. As for Sevco, well .... Aberdeen are in a lot better position than us. Getting £2m from investors and 2 months insurance cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Hungry hippo said: Aberdeen are in a lot better position than us. Getting £2m from investors and 2 months insurance cover. They were even before this as Cormack has been pumping money in, but down the line when football restarts they'll be on the hook for a very large deferred wage bill, with depleted cash, investors wanting a return and playing in a stadium they don't want to be in anymore with the new stadium they were banking on transforming their fortunes dead in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 21:53, Angel eyes said: Man City are getting dogs for doing the same taking fans direct debits for season tickets but no sure if it for the remainder of this season or next seasons but irrespective they should calm down until at least if they know the season is going to be completed. This seasons tickets.One payment left.They cannot do anything until they close the season down. Seemingly it is a logistic nightmare.The main abuse is the timing of the email.If they emailed a week before most fans would have been okay with the payment getting taken off. Just hope City do not go down the Spurs,Newcastle and Liverpool ect route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: They were even before this as Cormack has been pumping money in, but down the line when football restarts they'll be on the hook for a very large deferred wage bill, with depleted cash, investors wanting a return and playing in a stadium they don't want to be in anymore with the new stadium they were banking on transforming their fortunes dead in the water. Deferrals aren't ideal for any club but they are in a far less perilous position than most in Scottish football right now. The new stadium will obviously have to be kicked further down the road again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 The £50m+ stadium is not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Yeah about the stadium, it was mentioned on Sport-sound today. Cormack spoke about having a 16 or 18k (think it was 16) stadium but if they wanted 20k it would cost another 6 mill. Yeah it wont take and kind of priority until the wages are paid and or any debt if it amounts. They are debt free as it stands. Think they want deferrals done by September. After that they are worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: In that case then they will be worried because there won't be any football in September. Or even the following September is Asian countries like Thailand keep diseased live animal markets open which they are doing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Haggis Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: "The club are one of the better-run outfits..." "Their wage bill of £87m... is among the lowest in the Premier League." Burnley population: 88,527 Burnley FC ground capacity: 21,944 Money spent on transfers in the last 4 years: Over £110m Nothing to see here. Carry on. No need to panic. Completely sustainable. Bubble, what bubble? Those numbers are eye watering. It’s actually pretty disgusting that the top flight game has gotten to these numbers in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Or even the following September is Asian countries like Thailand keep diseased live animal markets open which they are doing right now. Live animal markets should become world government targets. Filthy,disease ridden and cruel beyond imagination yet they continue. I refuse to post any links, they are so abhorrent, but if you want evidence theres plenty on you tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 I've had no time to keep up with the megathreads in all of this, so thought I'd bump this one instead. Have any other clubs up here announced wage cuts or furloughs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: I've had no time to keep up with the megathreads in all of this, so thought I'd bump this one instead. Have any other clubs up here announced wage cuts or furloughs? Anything that any other club do under the circumstances will be deemed *appropriate by the weegia, anything we do will be deemed inappropriate by the weegia...... it’s the way of the weegia. *even if we have already done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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