Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said: I don't need to watch the highlights from that match, I was at the other one. The main match that day. Ok, how many players were out? What about the early penalty we should have had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Ok, how many players were out? What about the early penalty we should have had? It wasn't just a case of who was out, some played while suffering from the illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, graygo said: It wasn't just a case of who was out, some played while suffering from the illness. It was desperately unlucky, but par for the course for us. "Always the Bridesmaid" and all that. The cup final the following week made me certain I'd never see Hearts win anything, which made 98 so much sweeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, graygo said: It wasn't just a case of who was out, some played while suffering from the illness. Very true, absolutely No-one has ever said how the entire team were affected, where they ate and who provided the food Bizarre - Edited March 10, 2020 by Ricardo Quaresma Added more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Italians talking 3 scenarios one which includes freezing the League and using play offs to determine the issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Ok, how many players were out? What about the early penalty we should have had? Yeah, we should have had a penalty. We should have pumped Clydebank the week before too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! I like the way you think 👍🏽👏🏾😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Yeah, we should have had a penalty. We should have pumped Clydebank the week before too. We could have done lots of things that season. Not conceding 6 vs St Mirren for example. It doesn't mean we still can't have a go at St Mirren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) A few folk on this thread are in denial about a conspiracy theory without providing any irrefutable evidence whatsoever that their unproven belief is anything other than just that, a personal belief, a theory. Edited March 10, 2020 by newbie pur speling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If the decision is to play all remaining games behind closed doors, would Hamilton and Livingston notice the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morgan said: Edited March 10, 2020 by Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruyff said: They have to fulfil the 38 games, they can postpone or play behind closed doors. What they cannot do is finish a season early. Any team that finds themselves in the bottom two places, relegated, will be suing the arse off the SFA for millions. Possibly, but the act of god shit or however it's worded could be a loophole. I just want us off the bottom asap to remove any doubt tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, newbie said: A few folk on this thread are in denial about a conspiracy theory without providing any irrefutable evidence whatsoever that their unproven belief is anything other than just that, a personal belief, a theory. Not sure I understand if you agree St Mirren lied down or don't. As for evidence, as if watching the game itself and taking into account that St Mirren team was decent isn't enough, Sandy Clark's book had some detail. Campbell Money for example was either "rested" or refused to play. Frank McAvennie also admitted that he told the St Mirren goalie which way to dive for a penalty he was taking for Celtic to help save them from relegation a couple of seasons after the 86 game. So the idea that players do things to help other teams is not really that far fetched. Here's some evidence then of players helping teams they support: But, in 1987, he headed back to Scotland to sign for boyhood heroes Celtic. And, ironically, it was while wearing the green and white hoops that Macca once again proved his credentials to the St Mirren faithful. Billy McNeill’s Bhoys looked a sure thing to win the Premier League title in the club’s centenary season and would go on to do so, while a McAvennie brace also secured the Scottish Cup for the Parkhead men. But the situation couldn’t have been more different for Saints, who were embroiled in a bitter relegation battle. So, when Celtic were awarded a penalty against the Buddies on a cold day at Love Street, Macca stepped up to the plate and promptly told his old Buddie Money exactly where he was going to place the spot-kick. Money informed Macca that he would seek vengeance in the form of a boot to the crown jewels if the Celtic striker was having him on. As it was, Macca duly sent the ball into Money’s hands – only to be immediately subbed by fuming Celtic gaffer McNeill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! While I wouldn't complaint if we win 2-0 we only have to beat them 1-0 and we will go above them based on our goals for total. I wish I knew why this has added itself in the way it has rather than just below the original quotation. Edited March 10, 2020 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: Nothing silly about it. It was disgraceful from St Mirren. It's OK to both acknowledge we had it in our own hands (St Mirren also beat us 6-2 earlier that season) and also accept that a series of events conspired against us that day - illness, a major reffing decision and - mostly - St MIrren's actions. I mean Celtic got the goals they needed in the first half. It was ridiculous. St Mirren were a good team that season. Look at their results in the lead up to that Celtic game, watch the highlights of their game vs Celtic and then come back and say there's no reason to hold a grudge. It's not a conspiracy theory. These things have happened in football before. Refs have been bribed. Whole teams have been bought off. Individual players, perhaps with a gambling problem for example, have been bought off. Leagues and games have been fixed in football in the past. There's no way Scotland is immune, and this was one example where, at best, some St Mirren players who supported Celtic very possibly decided do their team a favour by forgetting how to tackle, pass and shoot for an afternoon. That's what it looked like anyhow. It was like a bounce game for Celtic. If that's how it works, it's a pity Craig Gordon couldnae mind what team was his boyhood heroes, just once in a while. Like when saving a net-bound shot, for example. 😀 Edited March 10, 2020 by Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, Andrew Gilbert Wauchope said: If that's how it works, it's a pity Craig Gordon couldnae mind what team was his boyhood heroes, just once in a while. Like when saving a net-bound shot, for example. 😀 Or maybe he's not a cheat, like McAvennie admitted to being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Or maybe he's not a cheat, like McAvennie admitted to being. A good point, well made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Possibly, but the act of god shit or however it's worded could be a loophole. I just want us off the bottom asap to remove any doubt tbh. There must be something in the articles of the SPFL or UEFA or FIFA which covers ‘force majeure’ termination of a partially completed season. It must have happened before now somewhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The big issue I can see is that if teams are forced to play behind closed doors it could cause major financial issues to quite a few clubs in Scotland that are run on very thin margins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bozi said: The big issue I can see is that if teams are forced to play behind closed doors it could cause major financial issues to quite a few clubs in Scotland that are run on very thin margins Cue dozens of clubs wondering where the insurance policy is filed and if they are covered for ‘force majeure’ events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Interested to know if right now you’d accept an away game on last day of season which if we won we were 10th and if we lost we were relegated, a draw putting us in the play offs. I wouldn’t but it was a toughie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Issue Buzzword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, graygo said: I can think of at least one of the personnel from then who is still on the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 12 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Not sure I understand if you agree St Mirren lied down or don't. As for evidence, as if watching the game itself and taking into account that St Mirren team was decent isn't enough, Sandy Clark's book had some detail. Campbell Money for example was either "rested" or refused to play. Frank McAvennie also admitted that he told the St Mirren goalie which way to dive for a penalty he was taking for Celtic to help save them from relegation a couple of seasons after the 86 game. So the idea that players do things to help other teams is not really that far fetched. Here's some evidence then of players helping teams they support: But, in 1987, he headed back to Scotland to sign for boyhood heroes Celtic. And, ironically, it was while wearing the green and white hoops that Macca once again proved his credentials to the St Mirren faithful. Billy McNeill’s Bhoys looked a sure thing to win the Premier League title in the club’s centenary season and would go on to do so, while a McAvennie brace also secured the Scottish Cup for the Parkhead men. But the situation couldn’t have been more different for Saints, who were embroiled in a bitter relegation battle. So, when Celtic were awarded a penalty against the Buddies on a cold day at Love Street, Macca stepped up to the plate and promptly told his old Buddie Money exactly where he was going to place the spot-kick. Money informed Macca that he would seek vengeance in the form of a boot to the crown jewels if the Celtic striker was having him on. As it was, Macca duly sent the ball into Money’s hands – only to be immediately subbed by fuming Celtic gaffer McNeill. While your theory may be interesting, it is just that: a belief or theory, not a proven fact. All that you have provided is your opinion backed up by information that allows you to wildly speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I doubt the league will be suspended or closed early, but its quite likely that in two weeks, games must be played without spectators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 10/03/2020 at 08:17, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! If you fail to win tonight or indeed, if you are defeated, will you still find it acceptable to declare the season finished on Thursday. I think its fair to say, there will be no decision made before the government decision . They'll also want the cheeks game to go ahead on Sunday as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, newbie said: While your theory may be interesting, it is just that: a belief or theory, not a proven fact. All that you have provided is your opinion backed up by information that allows you to wildly speculate. I provided evidence that some players in Scotland are happy to throw games to help another team they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I provided evidence that some players in Scotland are happy to throw games to help another team they like. So if I prove life exists in Loch Ness by catching a salmon, does that prove the existence of Nessie, or is the monster still just a theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, newbie said: So if I prove life exists in Loch Ness by catching a salmon, does that prove the existence of Nessie, or is the monster still just a theory? Don't worry about it. I reserve the right to believe St Mirren downed tools that day, given how much football I watch and how obvious it is when players aren't trying, and provided evidence of a player helping another team to show that it's not that outlandish an idea. The fact that that it was a Celtic player who helped St Mirren escape relegation just a year or so after the 86 game is of course just a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) https: Edited April 8, 2020 by Uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Uche said: https: Empty this Hibs slaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, indianajones said: Empty this Hibs slaver. Feckin this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Morgan said: Feckin this. Rat *******s everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, indianajones said: Rat *******s everywhere. Appearing out of their drains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 hours ago, indianajones said: Empty this Hibs slaver. Won’t hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Not even intelligent enough to post a link properly, even after editing it to have a second go. Edit - look, an edit! Edited April 9, 2020 by tian447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 10/03/2020 at 08:17, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Have you got a crystal ball? Pity it didn’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Have you got a crystal ball? Pity it didn’t happen. Weird thing to be smug about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_FOREVER Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, hmfc_FOREVER said: I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Think you need to ignore vermin. Remind them of their relief they won't be getting dry boaby from us and their desperation to vote us out. We only get expelled they get relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, hmfc_FOREVER said: I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Can't imagine how awful that must be for you. Any Hearts fan who hasn't the ammunition to clamp one of those subhuman rodents is clearly an absolute shit for brains tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 This thread got a mention on reddit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said: Can't imagine how awful that must be for you. Any Hearts fan who hasn't the ammunition to clamp one of those subhuman rodents is clearly an absolute shit for brains tbh. Correct as usual. They are an apology for a serious rival. The best way to avoid their inane ramblings is to block them from devices. Have to admit though that I enjoy a wee look at .net and I'm always pleased when I get a mention. I've got a strong following from the worst of them on here and they go mad when i remind them that the pesky FoH simply refuses to go away. In fact, it just keeps getting stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, hmfc_FOREVER said: I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Good luck to them, it’s got **** all to do with them as usual. FWIW, I would still have loved for it to have happened. It was more about getting it up St Midden than anything else. I’ll happily take my medicine. Edited May 12, 2020 by Gashauskis9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPatTam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 You have to laugh otherwise you’d cry. This is is an absolute belter of an OP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, hmfc_FOREVER said: I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Console yourself with the knowledge that their last memory of the Lochend Shitbowl to carry over from the beginning of March to whenever football resumes is of the Hearts ramming three goals up them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) On 10/03/2020 at 08:17, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Your post above probably negates a lot of the threads that have appeared on here since the date of your post. Because what this and some responses do show is that if the situation had been reversed position wise we would have been looking for HMFC to vote in the same way many clubs have voted, i.e. in the interest of their own club, based on evidence they feel was being spoon fed to them by other parties in terms of access to finances available, for example. Reading a lot on here about boycotting this, that and the other thing when truth is if we had been in a position to vote in a certain way we would have done so, and any anger should be directed at the SPFL and not how clubs voted. Why they voted the way they did, yes a valid ground for challenge, but I think we all know, 100%, that if we hadn't been sitting bottom of the league we would have supported what was being planned, because another club would be relegated. Edited May 13, 2020 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: Your post above probably negates a lot of the threads that have appeared on here since the date of your post. Because what this and some responses do show is that if the situation had been reversed position wise we would have been looking for HMFC to vote in the same way many clubs have voted, i.e. in the interest of their own club, based on evidence they feel was being spoon fed to them by other parties in terms of access to finances available, for example. Reading a lot on here about boycotting this, that and the other thing when truth is if we had been in a position to vote in a certain way we would have done so, and any anger should be directed at the SPFL and not how clubs voted. Why they voted the way they did, yes a valid ground for challenge, but I think we all know, 100%, that if we hadn't been sitting bottom of the league we would have supported what was being planned, because another club would be relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 11 hours ago, hmfc_FOREVER said: I keep getting this thread sent to me by vermin. Good work OP ffs Isn’t it funny how 99% of the time, anything a Hibs fan tries to use as stick beat a Hearts supporter with is never actually about results v us on the park? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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