gashauskis9 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Lets just hope for a 2-0 win 🙂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Or even just 1-0 and they go down on goals scored... 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Laurie said: Or even just 1-0 and they go down on goals scored... 🤪 😮😮😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ex member of the SaS Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Oh yes please. Hate St Lie down with almost as much venom as the bigot twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 A more likely scenario given the way our season has went.... We go to st mirren on Wednesday and absolutely hammer them 7-0 to put them bottom of the table. Saturday comes and St Mirren scrape a 0-0 draw with Killie to out us back bottom, then on sunday Morning the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynietigers Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! I like you scenario better ☺️♥️👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Gets those w@nks back for lying down to Timothy in '86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 That would do it. And you know what. Ending this season early may be the best bit of that! Just want it done. Can't wait for next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'd be massively aroused if this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 A 1 goal win will do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 More likely we go there, gift them an embarrasing goal and Naismith misses a number of sitters, get beat and get relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 While I would bite your hand off for a 2-0 Hearts win tomorrow night, I can't get excited about events that happened 34 years ago that fall into the realms of conspiracy theory, particularly when none of the personnel involved that day are still at St Mirren, Celtic or Hearts. Some of their supporters may be the same, but they never influenced the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, jambopilms said: More likely we go there, gift them an embarrasing goal and Naismith misses a number of sitters, get beat and get relegated. Thats the spirit 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Serious Q: is there any chat about ending early or is this just a theory by fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Lets just worry about trying to win a game of football instead of fantasising about wild scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Or what will likely happen is the season will carry on and finish as normal. We will stay up, St Mirren will go down and Ross County will lose in play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 They have to fulfil the 38 games, they can postpone or play behind closed doors. What they cannot do is finish a season early. Any team that finds themselves in the bottom two places, relegated, will be suing the arse off the SFA for millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Could find one or two teams going bust from lack of income from closed doors games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Could find one or two teams going bust from lack of income from closed doors games. I’ve no doubt supporters from various teams would also be up in arms at paying for season tickets and missing 3-4 matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cruyff said: They have to fulfil the 38 games, they can postpone or play behind closed doors. What they cannot do is finish a season early. Any team that finds themselves in the bottom two places, relegated, will be suing the arse off the SFA for millions. Is that the case though? Force Majeaure would probably be cited in any legal discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The seethe for St Mirren is quite silly. They may well have had a few tinkers in their team that day who never tried but to still be going on about it now is sad. Fair play to folks from that neck of the woods who support their local team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Is that the case though? Force Majeaure would probably be cited in any legal discussions. Force majeure is like WW3 starting or Aliens invading, not the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Cruyff said: They have to fulfil the 38 games, they can postpone or play behind closed doors. What they cannot do is finish a season early. Any team that finds themselves in the bottom two places, relegated, will be suing the arse off the SFA for millions. Would be my take on it. 33 games might give them an out all the same, then at least you have played all teams. Even if there is some disparity in home and away fixtures it could be argued to be reasonably fair. International football competitions should be placed on hold and possibly even scrapped to allow dates to complete leagues, even if it is into the summer. After all they are the clubs employees, internationals are days away. I would be dead against my employees travelling for internationals in the circumstances. Priority 1 National Leagues Priority 2 National Cups Priority 3 International Club Cups Priority 4 International association tournaments i.e Euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Force majeure is like WW3 starting or Aliens invading, not the flu. force majeure /ˌfɔːs maˈʒəː/ noun noun: force majeure 1. Law unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract. 2. irresistible compulsion or superior strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Marvin said: Gets those w@nks back for lying down to Timothy in '86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! Sounds great but what if the games postponed again due to the weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: force majeure /ˌfɔːs maˈʒəː/ noun noun: force majeure 1. Law unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract. 2. irresistible compulsion or superior strength. I know what force majeure is. Under contracts however, it would have to be a near apocalyptic scenario to get out of not fulfilling a League and Cup Competition in the eyes of clubs, sponsors, and TV companies etc.... Why? There is actually nothing preventing them from fulfilling this season either in another way, e.g. Closed doors. Or game played at a Later date. Therefore, using that reason to prematurely end a competition would not be acceptable. It would however be an acceptable reason to postpone it. Edited March 10, 2020 by Cruyff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: force majeure /ˌfɔːs maˈʒəː/ noun noun: force majeure 1. Law unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract. 2. irresistible compulsion or superior strength. If the contract isn’t fulfilled that I’d assume the part where the team finishes Is relegated last isn’t fulfilled either. Regardless was this thread started by a 10 year old, surely an adult doesn’t sit at work daydreaming such nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Anything that impacts on that shower is fine by me , horrible horrible club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Dazo said: If the contract isn’t fulfilled that I’d assume the part where the team finishes Is relegated last isn’t fulfilled either. Regardless was this thread started by a 10 year old, surely an adult doesn’t sit at work daydreaming such nonsense. I'm sure someone will be along from the SPFL shortly to keep us informed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: I know what force majeure is. Under contracts however, it would have to be a near apocalyptic scenario to get out of not fulfilling a League and Cup Competition in the eyes of clubs, sponsors, and TV companies etc.... Why? There is actually nothing preventing them from fulfilling this season either in another way, e.g. Closed doors. Or game played at a Later date. Therefore, using that reason to prematurely end a competition would not be acceptable. It would however be an acceptable reason to postpone it. Catastrophe is the word, I would say an entire western country being locked down could be termed a catastrophe. I'm certain they will do everything they can to avoid the season not being completed, closed doors has to be a very realistic prospect. How long before a player catches the virus, then what do you do at that point. We may find out very shortly with the Nottingham Forest owner diagnosed with the virus, how far has he spread it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference. On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend. That my friends is ****ing karma!!! I fecking love this idea. Maybe when lombardi hearts were over they visited every game in Scotland between them to try and make this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, newbie said: While I would bite your hand off for a 2-0 Hearts win tomorrow night, I can't get excited about events that happened 34 years ago that fall into the realms of conspiracy theory, particularly when none of the personnel involved that day are still at St Mirren, Celtic or Hearts. Some of their supporters may be the same, but they never influenced the outcome. No conspiracy theory. Half their team celebrated ON THE PITCH with the Celtic team. They are and always will be scum and even the tiniest bit of pain or misfortune will be celebrated by myself and many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Cruyff said: They have to fulfil the 38 games, they can postpone or play behind closed doors. What they cannot do is finish a season early. Any team that finds themselves in the bottom two places, relegated, will be suing the arse off the SFA for millions. This. Ending the season early when relegation, promotion and other things are up for grabs is the least fair and sensible thing to do. You can't give Celtic the title when they can still be caught and you can't relegate a team that could easily pull away from the bottom with one or two wins. What happens to the money awarded for league positions for a start if teams end the league having played fewer games or having had more games vs certain teams? Total can of worms. Closed door games has to be the solution and I'm guessing the SFA is hoping that gets delayed as long as possible. Maybe they could even have coin tosses to decide the last few games without playing them. Otherwise, they just have to void this season or come up with something imaginative like league reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No longer active Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Weakened Offender said: The seethe for St Mirren is quite silly. They may well have had a few tinkers in their team that day who never tried but to still be going on about it now is sad. Fair play to folks from that neck of the woods who support their local team. We still couldn’t beat Dundee that day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, George Cowie said: We still couldn’t beat Dundee that day! Ken. Ridiculous to blame another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Ken. Ridiculous to blame another team. No, what's ridiculous is accepting it's fine for a team to down tools to help another team. Which as everyone who was around then knows is what several St Mirren players did. Us and Celtic were going for the title. Dundee were going for Europe. Half the St Mirren team were playing for a Celtic title win. Edited March 10, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: This. Ending the season early when relegation, promotion and other things are up for grabs is the least fair and sensible thing to do. You can't give Celtic the title when they can still be caught and you can't relegate a team that could easily pull away from the bottom with one or two wins. What happens to the money awarded for league positions for a start if teams end the league having played fewer games or having had more games vs certain teams? Total can of worms. Closed door games has to be the solution and I'm guessing the SFA is hoping that gets delayed as long as possible. Maybe they could even have coin tosses to decide the last few games without playing them. Otherwise, they just have to void this season or come up with something imaginative like league reconstruction. How appropriate would that be for a shower of tossers?😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Morgan said: I'm not bitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, newbie said: While I would bite your hand off for a 2-0 Hearts win tomorrow night, I can't get excited about events that happened 34 years ago that fall into the realms of conspiracy theory, particularly when none of the personnel involved that day are still at St Mirren, Celtic or Hearts. Some of their supporters may be the same, but they never influenced the outcome. I can think of at least one of the personnel from then who is still on the payroll. Edited March 10, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, George Cowie said: We still couldn’t beat Dundee that day! Several decisions went against us, Sandy Clark's penalty claim inside the first 5 mins was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, graygo said: I can think of at least one of the personnel from then who is still on the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Marvin said: I'm not bitter Aye, you are. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Marvin said: Several decisions went against us, Sandy Clark's penalty claim inside the first 5 mins was one. People seem to forget the mysterious food poisoning on the eve of this match; the entire team were very ill, doubted over by all accounts 41 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Ken. Ridiculous to blame another team. See for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: No, what's ridiculous is accepting it's fine for a team to down tools to help another team. Which as everyone who was around then knows is what several St Mirren players did. Us and Celtic were going for the title. Dundee were going for Europe. Half the St Mirren team were playing for a Celtic title win. I'm not accepting its fine at all. I just only blame one group of players for not winning the league that day, ours. I also feel its silly to hold a 30 odd year grudge over a club whose fans all wanted us to win the league that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: People seem to forget the mysterious food poisoning on the eve of this match; the entire team were very ill, doubted over by all accounts See for yourself I don't need to watch the highlights from that match, I was at the other one. The main match that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I'm not accepting its fine at all. I just only blame one group of players for not winning the league that day, ours. I also feel its silly to hold a 30 odd year grudge over a club whose fans all wanted us to win the league that day. Nothing silly about it. It was disgraceful from St Mirren. It's OK to both acknowledge we had it in our own hands (St Mirren also beat us 6-2 earlier that season) and also accept that a series of events conspired against us that day - illness, a major reffing decision and - mostly - St MIrren's actions. I mean Celtic got the goals they needed in the first half. It was ridiculous. St Mirren were a good team that season. Look at their results in the lead up to that Celtic game, watch the highlights of their game vs Celtic and then come back and say there's no reason to hold a grudge. It's not a conspiracy theory. These things have happened in football before. Refs have been bribed. Whole teams have been bought off. Individual players, perhaps with a gambling problem for example, have been bought off. Leagues and games have been fixed in football in the past. There's no way Scotland is immune, and this was one example where, at best, some St Mirren players who supported Celtic very possibly decided do their team a favour by forgetting how to tackle, pass and shoot for an afternoon. That's what it looked like anyhow. It was like a bounce game for Celtic. Edited March 10, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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