Trapper John McIntyre Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Suso Santana said: Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. Who told you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Suso Santana said: Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. have you, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Is this thread legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: Is this thread legal? No need for a trial. Suso's been told already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Smithee said: No need for a trial. Suso's been told already. I suppose it shows one thing, AS isn't a Tory after all, as it would have been covered up with violence and paper shredding and he'd have a job on the BBC. On a serious note, I'll wait til the trail starts before comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Suso Santana said: Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. Well obviously, otherwise it wouldn't have got to a trial! If the Crown Office don't think they have enough evidence to secure a conviction then they are unlikely to proceed to trial. Edited March 7, 2020 by Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I suppose it shows one thing, AS isn't a Tory after all, as it would have been covered up with violence and paper shredding and he'd have a job on the BBC. On a serious note, I'll wait til the trail starts before comment. Fair enough, I dont particularly care myself. It's right that he's not above the law and he'll face a trial like anyone else. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Smithee said: Fair enough, I dont particularly care myself. It's right that he's not above the law and he'll face a trial like anyone else. Good. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, Smithee said: Fair enough, I dont particularly care myself. It's right that he's not above the law and he'll face a trial like anyone else. Good. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: This Alex Sammond thing I find a bit strange. Surely everyone hopes justice is done. Why would your politics have any bearing on your view of the situation? His politics don’t make him guilty or innocent. Thank **** we have a jury of piers deciding his innocent or guilt based on evidence. As opposed to many people who seem to base their decision on SNP Bad = guilty and SNP Good = Innocent. Hope justice is done whatever that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: This Alex Sammond thing I find a bit strange. Surely everyone hopes justice is done. Why would your politics have any bearing on your view of the situation? His politics don’t make him guilty or innocent. Thank **** we have a jury of piers deciding his innocent or guilt based on evidence. As opposed to many people who seem to base their decision on SNP Bad = guilty and SNP Good = Innocent. Hope justice is done whatever that may be. Correct. If he is guilty then a swift boot in the baws and a long stretch in Saughton is EXACTLY what he deserves. Hes isnt above the law and thats the way it should be. (Shame its not the same if your a tory MP in Westminster). I wont be joining in Trappers “witch-hunt” though. He obsessed with this case! Wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Interesting that some people are desperate for Salmond to be guilty and get sent down. Personally I hope he's innocent and women haven't been abused and put in frightening situations. Anyway, I hope justice is done no matter what way it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Just don't think he is capable of getting a fair trial due to who he is. His political history will surely play a huge part in any of the jurors decision. Sure they can screen them and the judge can issue instructions but that doesnt guarantee no bias. The.system we have in place is not fit for purpose Edited March 7, 2020 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: Just don't think he is capable of getting a fair trial due to who he is. His political history will surely play a huge part in any of the jurors decision. Sure they can screen them and the judge can issue instructions but that doesnt guarantee no bias. The.system we have in place is not fit for purpose So are you saying SNP voters will say he's not guilty and others will say he is? Regretfully its is not always about justice, its about who can convince the jury, and paying a lot of money for lawyers who can get things on technicalities. And let's remember Salmond has already won part one on a technicality, which cost the Scottish Tax payer a lot of money. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/01/war-between-alex-salmond-and-nicola-sturgeon-could-be-catastrophic-snp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Is this thread legal? It is brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I like when people declare things like, to paraphrase, “I don’t care what his political affiliations are, if he has done what he has been charged with then he should be punished”. As opposed to what? It’s stating the obvious. Do you want a moral round of applause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Suso Santana said: Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. Pants down. Allegedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Costanza said: Interesting that some people are desperate for Salmond to be guilty and get sent down. Personally I hope he's innocent and women haven't been abused and put in frightening situations. Anyway, I hope justice is done no matter what way it goes. Indeed, remember when people were desperate for cliff richard to be charged? It means that he would have had to have abused some poor soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Form what's been reported so far, 14 charges in relation to 10 different women, it looks highly likely that he will be convicted of something. The charges range from attempted rape to inappropriate touching. What charges, if any, he is found guilty of will dictate if he is sent to prison or not. One thing is certain, his career and reputation is finished. FWIW, I liked Salmond and voted for independence. Edited March 7, 2020 by His name is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Not just his reputation but anyone who worked closely with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, H2 said: So are you saying SNP voters will say he's not guilty and others will say he is? Regretfully its is not always about justice, its about who can convince the jury, and paying a lot of money for lawyers who can get things on technicalities. And let's remember Salmond has already won part one on a technicality, which cost the Scottish Tax payer a lot of money. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/01/war-between-alex-salmond-and-nicola-sturgeon-could-be-catastrophic-snp That’s pretty much exactly what I reckon might happen such is the divide now. I mean could you imagine Tripper on the jury or a few other of the rabid unionists on here? Hes guilty already as far they’re concerned and someone in a high place has already told Suso he’s defo going down likesay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 5 hours ago, westbow said: I like when people declare things like, to paraphrase, “I don’t care what his political affiliations are, if he has done what he has been charged with then he should be punished”. As opposed to what? It’s stating the obvious. Do you want a moral round of applause? No ta, cheers though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Not just his reputation but anyone who worked closely with him Either be brave enough to make an accusation or shut up tbh. Everyone can see what you're getting at so grow a pair and say what you're meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, jack D and coke said: That’s pretty much exactly what I reckon might happen such is the divide now. I mean could you imagine Tripper on the jury or a few other of the rabid unionists on here? Hes guilty already as far they’re concerned and someone in a high place has already told Suso he’s defo going down likesay How dare you. If I sat on the jury I would listen to the evidence very carefully and with total impartiality before finding him guilty on all counts. Justice must be served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: How dare you. If I sat on the jury I would listen to the evidence very carefully and with total impartiality before finding him guilty on all counts. Justice must be served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jambogaza Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Boris said: Well obviously, otherwise it wouldn't have got to a trial! If the Crown Office don't think they have enough evidence to secure a conviction then they are unlikely to proceed to trial. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 14 hours ago, ri Alban said: Is this thread legal? I will make it legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 If he beasted anybody, he should go to jail. It's that simple. Nothing he did has any political angle to it at all. This is a purely criminal matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Aye, he’s looking at a good few years in the slammer if found guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 It's got nothing to do with political parties ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, indianajones said: It's got nothing to do with political parties ffs. Not strictly true if the allegations happened while he was in government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Given that this trial is about to start then everyone needs to know that any posts that the moderators believe is possibly in contempt or potentially defamatory to the accused, or others, will be removed and the poster banned from the thread. Further action may also be taken depending on the nature of the post. Don’t say you haven’t been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restonbabe Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I hope he hasnt done what he has been alleged to have done. All of this will come out in the trial. It's a guarantee that they will stick something to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Quite funny Unionists thinking this will stop Indy. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: Quite funny Unionists thinking this will stop Indy. 😁 Nope, that will be the voices in your head. This thread is about the Salmond trial so either keep on topic or stay off this thread - you have turned at least three others into a car crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, frankblack said: Nope, that will be the voices in your head. This thread is about the Salmond trial so either keep on topic or stay off this thread - you have turned at least three others into a car crash. So the OP and Effie Deans uber fan had no intentions other than the the trial? 🤣🤣 Righto then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: So the OP and Effie Deans uber fan had no intentions other than the the trial? 🤣🤣 Righto then. You have just proved my point - you can't stop yourself. The mods have made it clear what they intend to do with those breaking the forum rules on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, frankblack said: You have just proved my point - you can't stop yourself. The mods have made it clear what they intend to do with those breaking the forum rules on this thread. Cannae beat a frank black post greeting to the mods for back up. Must be about your 20th in 6 months now. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: So the OP and Effie Deans uber fan had no intentions other than the the trial? 🤣🤣 Righto then. Glad to hear you're such a fan of the estimable Effie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Space Mackerel said: Cannae beat a frank black post greeting to the mods for back up. Must be about your 20th in 6 months now. 😃 I can smell the fear from you on here, which explains your panic flapping around trying to wreck this thread. On top of that you can't even read the posts you reply to, but that is par for the course with you. Next you will be posting lots of links to nonsense that don't even relate to the point you are trying to make. As I said, what have any of your posts on this thread got to do with the topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: Quite funny Unionists thinking this will stop Indy. 😁 7 minutes ago, frankblack said: I can smell the fear from you on here, which explains your panic flapping around trying to wreck this thread. On top of that you can't even read the posts you reply to, but that is par for the course with you. Next you will be posting lots of links to nonsense that don't even relate to the point you are trying to make. As I said, what have any of your posts on this thread got to do with the topic? My first post on this thread was a wrecker right enough. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: Quite funny Unionists thinking this will stop Indy. 😁 Nah mate. The Scottish people already stopped Indy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Nah mate. The Scottish people already stopped Indy Ssshhhhh! He hasn't realised........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: Quite funny Unionists thinking this will stop Indy. 😁 Quite funny that Nats think there is going to be an Indy ref in the term of this Government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 06/03/2020 at 23:31, Suso Santana said: Been told they've got him hands down. Going to jail. Hands down what would be the question ? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 07/03/2020 at 19:14, AlimOzturk said: Just don't think he is capable of getting a fair trial due to who he is. His political history will surely play a huge part in any of the jurors decision. Sure they can screen them and the judge can issue instructions but that doesnt guarantee no bias. The.system we have in place is not fit for purpose Under Scots law, jurors aren't screened. Obviously they're vetted for eligibility, but not for things like poltical associations etc. There's lots of peculiarities in Scots Law compared to other countries in the 'Angloshere', who all tend to follow English law influences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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