Boof Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just had a thought today...at my wedding we had a religious ceremony, signed the bit of paper then had to ensure someone gave some relevant documentation to the registrar within a certain time period. My question is...were we officially married as soon as we'd signed that bit of paper in the kirk or say, for whatever reason, it never made it to the registrar...would we have been not married? Or married and just had a bit of a paper chase to make it official? Question prompted by a colleague's revelation that she's a minister of the church of the flying spaghetti monster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 If it’s a proper church or registry office How to marry You can get married by a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony. In both cases, the following legal requirements must be met:- the marriage must be conducted by a person or in the presence of a person authorised to register marriages in the district the marriage must be entered in the marriage register and signed by both parties, two witnesses, the person who conducted the ceremony and, if that person is not authorised to register marriages, the person who is registering the marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Boof said: Just had a thought today...at my wedding we had a religious ceremony, signed the bit of paper then had to ensure someone gave some relevant documentation to the registrar within a certain time period. My question is...were we officially married as soon as we'd signed that bit of paper in the kirk or say, for whatever reason, it never made it to the registrar...would we have been not married? Or married and just had a bit of a paper chase to make it official? Question prompted by a colleague's revelation that she's a minister of the church of the flying spaghetti monster... Probably the bit where they say 'I now pronounce you...'. Thats why there has to be witnesses. The paperwork is just a record of what has taken place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: If it’s a proper church or registry office How to marry You can get married by a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony. In both cases, the following legal requirements must be met:- the marriage must be conducted by a person or in the presence of a person authorised to register marriages in the district the marriage must be entered in the marriage register and signed by both parties, two witnesses, the person who conducted the ceremony and, if that person is not authorised to register marriages, the person who is registering the marriage. The bit in red is what I wondered. Are you officially married as soon as that bit of paper has been signed by the final signatory? Or is it when that bit of paper makes it to the registrar and they register it? Knowing the answer really isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference to my life - just one more of those idle musings that afflict me from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Don't do it, kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boof said: Just had a thought today...at my wedding we had a religious ceremony, signed the bit of paper then had to ensure someone gave some relevant documentation to the registrar within a certain time period. My question is...were we officially married as soon as we'd signed that bit of paper in the kirk or say, for whatever reason, it never made it to the registrar...would we have been not married? Or married and just had a bit of a paper chase to make it official? Question prompted by a colleague's revelation that she's a minister of the church of the flying spaghetti monster... I wondered exactly the same thing and asked a minister when was the actual moment when the deed was done, no backing out etc. He didn’t know! I’d have thought, since it’s a legal thing, it’s when the register has been signed by both parties and the signatures witnessed? Edited February 27, 2020 by FWJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, Boof said: The bit in red is what I wondered. Are you officially married as soon as that bit of paper has been signed by the final signatory? Or is it when that bit of paper makes it to the registrar and they register it? Knowing the answer really isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference to my life - just one more of those idle musings that afflict me from time to time. It's a done deal as soon as the officiant declared "I now pronounce you husband and husband". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 The moment the devil receives your soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Boof said: Question prompted by a colleague's revelation that she's a minister of the church of the flying spaghetti monster... All hail our one true God.. the FSM R'Amen https://www.spaghettimonster.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Marriage.....Expensive Divorce.....More Expensive Stay alone and play with myself......priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Jambo Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Marriage, it's not just a word, it's a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smack Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Always enjoyed visits from missionaries and discussing themes along these lines. Think the Mormons blacklisted me, and the Jehovas have went quiet. Looking forward to Spaghetti worshippers darkening my door in the near future to discuss the issues Boof has brought to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) I got married in a RC church in Belgium, to a Dutch woman, in a ceremony in Flemish, French, Dutch and Latin. I'm CoS, uni-lingual and, 30 years on, still not sure what the feck was going on. 😅 Edited February 27, 2020 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 The whole concept is a bit weird isn't it. Genuinely no idea why its given some sort of gravitas and you get all sorts of financial and social benefits. Humans are strange creatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 hours ago, martoon said: I got married in a RC church in Belgium, to a Dutch woman, in a ceremony in Flemish, French, Dutch and Latin. I'm CoS, uni-lingual and, 30 years on, still not sure what the feck was going on. 😅 Flemish and dutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Izemore Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Bigsmak said: All hail our one true God.. the FSM R'Amen https://www.spaghettimonster.org/ I’m a Pastafarian. Touched by his noodley appendage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I got married abroad and didn't have to register it over here. So for me I guess it was when I signed the dotted line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Smack said: Always enjoyed visits from missionaries and discussing themes along these lines. Think the Mormons blacklisted me, and the Jehovas have went quiet. Looking forward to Spaghetti worshippers darkening my door in the near future to discuss the issues Boof has brought to the table. My mate in Lithgy used to invite them into his home and play them at their own game. There were 2 Mormon girls in Livingston and tbh they were very pretty and definitely worth "it". They both came to my door and after I revealed my intrigue in Satanism they soon left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Brow said: The whole concept is a bit weird isn't it. Genuinely no idea why its given some sort of gravitas and you get all sorts of financial and social benefits. Humans are strange creatures. Would love to know what the financial and social benefits are Edited February 28, 2020 by IronJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 19 hours ago, Boof said: Just had a thought today...at my wedding we had a religious ceremony, signed the bit of paper then had to ensure someone gave some relevant documentation to the registrar within a certain time period. My question is...were we officially married as soon as we'd signed that bit of paper in the kirk or say, for whatever reason, it never made it to the registrar...would we have been not married? Or married and just had a bit of a paper chase to make it official? Question prompted by a colleague's revelation that she's a minister of the church of the flying spaghetti monster... When she places your gonads in her purse....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Smithee said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Smithee said: Flemish and dutch? Like saying English and American I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 In practical terms it only actually sinks in that you are married after you request and are denied a BJ for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Are you only born or dead once it's been registered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: Are you only born or dead once it's been registered? What about sex offenders?.. ...Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, gjcc said: What about sex offenders?.. ...Asking for a fiend. Maybe they could just be dead registered as dead. Oh, and FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Smithee said: Flemish and dutch? The same language, Smithee, but in practical terms, dialect, accent...often a marked difference. Regardless, it was all Dutch to me on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, martoon said: The same language, Smithee, but in practical terms, dialect, accent...often a marked difference. Regardless, it was all Dutch to me on the day. I only recently heard Flemish properly, it was weird! Recognisable dutch words but the accent meant I could only pick out bits and bobs. I just cant imagine it being done in dutch and Flemish, surely it would be like doing a service in American then Australian English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Smithee said: I only recently heard Flemish properly, it was weird! Recognisable dutch words but the accent meant I could only pick out bits and bobs. I just cant imagine it being done in dutch and Flemish, surely it would be like doing a service in American then Australian English? I'm not actually saying it was, bud. It was just a sweeping statement that there was a lot said, in various languages, and I only understood the occasional, and pertinent, English that was aimed towards me. The priest was actually Italian and his English was modest but just good enough for me to follow. Add the Latin and a touch of interpreted French for some guests and it was all a little overwhelming. Dont regret it for a second though and we're still together 30 years on, give or take, from meeting and the big, baffling day itself. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, martoon said: I'm not actually saying it was, bud. It was just a sweeping statement that there was a lot said, in various languages, and I only understood the occasional, and pertinent, English that was aimed towards me. The priest was actually Italian and his English was modest but just good enough for me to follow. Add the Latin and a touch of interpreted French for some guests and it was all a little overwhelming. Dont regret it for a second though and we're still together 30 years on, give or take, from meeting and the big, baffling day itself. 👍 Ah ok, I've obviously misunderstood 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Sooperstar said: I got married abroad and didn't have to register it over here. So for me I guess it was when I signed the dotted line. You should've registered it over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, Spellczech said: You should've registered it over here... You actually can't anymore.They changed it a few years ago. As long as you married according to the law in whatever country then it is legal in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 23 hours ago, Boston Jambo said: Marriage, it's not just a word, it's a sentence. Marriage is an institution ... and who wants to live in an institution?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, King prawn said: Good man, wheat successfully separated from chaff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 16 hours ago, IronJambo said: Would love to know what the financial and social benefits are Then you're doing it wrong. There's lot of financial breaks for married couples - least of all the ability to swap money between you both without the taxman asking. You can employ a spouse to do nothing to take advantage of their spare tax, all sorts of little tricks. The government loves marriage. Theres probably less social benefits now that I think about it as most folk dont really give a **** these days do they. Other than not having to shag your cellmate in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Sooperstar said: You actually can't anymore.They changed it a few years ago. As long as you married according to the law in whatever country then it is legal in the UK. I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: I didn't know that. Nor did I until I got married last year. I can see it being a bit of a pain in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 13 hours ago, The Brow said: Then you're doing it wrong. There's lot of financial breaks for married couples - least of all the ability to swap money between you both without the taxman asking. You can employ a spouse to do nothing to take advantage of their spare tax, all sorts of little tricks. The government loves marriage. Ha. Good for you that one of you has spare tax allowance. Me "employing" my Mrs or the other way around isn't going to work for either of us. We don't even get child benefit for our kids! You got any tricks that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 First there's the engagement ring, then there's the wedding ring and finally! There's the suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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