Justin Z Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, luckydug said: ๐๐๐ ย ย Just absolutely classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Continental Op Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 02/05/2020 at 08:27, ri Alban said: According to Yougov the SNP are doomed. Just the 54% first vote and 45% regional. 68 seats and 10 for the Greens which make 78 from 129. ย Aw nawwwwwwwwww!ย ๐ฑย The SNP and independence are doomed! ย 50% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 ย Panelbase ย Scottish ย voting intentions for Westminster (Panelbase, 1st-5th May 2020): SNP 50% (+2) Conservatives 26% (-1) Labour 17% (+1) Liberal Democrats 5% (n/c) Greens 2% (-1) Scottish Parliament constituency ballot: SNP 53% (+2) Conservatives 23% (-3) Labour 15% (+1) Liberal Democrats 5% (-1) Greens 3% (n/c) Scottish Parliament regional list ballot: SNP 48% (n/c) Conservatives 22% (-4) Labour 15% (+2) Liberal Democrats 7% (+1) Greens 5% (-1) ย It is a long, long way out but striking figures nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Whats that comin over the hill ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, jambogaza said: ย Panelbase ย Scottish ย voting intentions for Westminster (Panelbase, 1st-5th May 2020): SNP 50% (+2) Conservatives 26% (-1) Labour 17% (+1) Liberal Democrats 5% (n/c) Greens 2% (-1) Scottish Parliament constituency ballot: SNP 53% (+2) Conservatives 23% (-3) Labour 15% (+1) Liberal Democrats 5% (-1) Greens 3% (n/c) Scottish Parliament regional list ballot: SNP 48% (n/c) Conservatives 22% (-4) Labour 15% (+2) Liberal Democrats 7% (+1) Greens 5% (-1) ย It is a long, long way out but striking figures nonetheless. What a ****ing country this isย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, East Lothian Jambo said: What a ****ing country this isย In what way.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Whats that comin over the hill ? He'll be told to GTF.ย Yesterday's man.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, East Lothian Jambo said: What a ****ing country this isย Brilliant isn't it. People preferring a party that sticks up for Scotland, against unionist parties happy to talk down our country to please their masters in Westminster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Whats that comin over the hill ? A man acquitted of any criminality in a court of law.ย Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Smithee said: A man acquitted of any criminality in a court of law.ย Get over it. Mrย Salmond won't be over it though. He'll be thirsting for vengeance and those with whom he holds similar political allegiance will be firmly in his sights ย Mrs Murrell will be towards the top of the listย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: Mrย Salmond won't be over it though. He'll be thirsting for vengeance and those with whom he holds similar political allegiance will be firmly in his sights ย Mrs Murrell will be towards the top of the listย Sound, a man found innocent in a court of law though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Smithee said: Sound, a man found innocent in a court of law though Absolutely.ย I don't dispute that for a moment. He was found innocentย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 ๐ ย https://twitter.com/JMBEuansSon/status/1258714305048064001?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 21 hours ago, East Lothian Jambo said: Mrย Salmond won't be over it though. He'll be thirsting for vengeance and those with whom he holds similar political allegiance will be firmly in his sights ย Mrs Murrell will be towards the top of the listย Spot on and Ms Cherry happy to throw her weight behind him to oust NS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Spot on and Ms Cherry happy to throw her weight behind him to oust NS Murrells may have a few challengesย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 18:39, Smithee said: Sound, a man found innocent in a court of law though O.J Simpson was found innocent in a court of law tooย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: O.J Simpson was found innocent in a court of law tooย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 ย Puts us in a favourable position. Let's make sure independence means we utilise this precious commodity . As it says as valuable as gold in the coming years. ย ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Byrde Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) Bairns reading off a script thanking Saint Nicola. ย STV already pulled the video. Anyone see it? ย ย Edited May 24, 2020 by Marty Byrde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 oh dear as if fatty Blackford wasn't embarrassing enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 hours ago, jake said: ย Puts us in a favourable position. Let's make sure independence means we utilise this precious commodity . As it says as valuable as gold in the coming years. ย ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: oh dear as if fatty Blackford wasn't embarrassing enough Cummings and Boris rubber stamping independence by the day. ย ย Tick Tock!!! ย ย ย ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 They falling yet? ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realzaragoza Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Let's all clap for Nicola ! ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: oh dear as if fatty Blackford wasn't embarrassing enough Heโs a fat vermin weltย ย however as poster above says โare they falling yet โ ๐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, Realzaragoza said: Let's all clap for Nicola ! ย ๐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 ๐ย ๐ฌ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Clap for Boris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Letโs clap for the Scottish Care Home staff and residents so badly let down by SGย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Semi regular check in. ย Are the SNP dead yet? No? ย As you were! ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Letโs clap for the Scottish Care Home staff and residents so badly let down by SGย You should clap for the 20000 dead in England while you're at it. Or let's not. ย What a disgusting way to political point score.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 hours ago, ri Alban said: You should clap for the 20000 dead in England while you're at it. Or let's not. ย What a disgusting way to political point score.ย ย I've never seen someone on a forum so hell-bent on lowering the bar even further from his previous low water mark, and by way of a steady flow of barely literate word vomit. ย Imagine being that full of delusion, angst and self-loathing. Boggles the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Justin Z said: ย I've never seen someone on a forum so hell-bent on lowering the bar even further from his previous low water mark, and by way of a steady flow of barely literate word vomit. ย Imagine being that full of delusion, angst and self-loathing. Boggles the mind. Blaming the press for Cummings endangering peoples lives on the CV thread, whilst praising BJ for ignoring questions. Stupid is what stupid does.ย ย Edited May 25, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Seems like they're on the rise again:- https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeons-polling-surge-tilts-balance-on-independence-kvbhpj7cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 There have now been several polls in 2020 that have yes in the lead. This is a consistent and unmistakable trend. ย I think there are lots of factors here: Sturgeon's approval ratings, Brexit, disconnection from Westminster and the utter contempt it shows towards Scotland on a regular basis. ย Independence is starting to feel inevitable. Even senior Tory/Labour Unionists are conceding this in private, according to the Sunday Times. ย On these figures and trends, there will be a referendum in 2022 at the latest and YES will win big. ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) Be careful what you wish for....im not adverse to independence, i actually think Scotland could prosper well with the exports we have. Biggest issue I have is who would lead us if we did though? To me, none of the existing parties are fit to govern us as it stands. I've just posted this on the covid-19 thread in response to a comment on the Scottish health Secretary but i feel its relevant here too.......yep. I read an article yesterday that stated scotland has the worstย drugsย death in Europe and our total is also larger than the other 3 uk nationsย as a collective.ย How the hell does a nation of roughly 6 million people have more drug related deaths than a combined populationย of around 60million from 3 other neighbouring nations?? I then checked unemployment and it seems Scotland also has the highest rate of unemployment from all the UK nations. When you add in the fact anyone earning over 24k a year is taxed higher than the rest of the UK youve really got to wonder wtf the SNP are doing, especially when anyoneย earning less than 24k is approximately ยฃ10 A YEAR better off than the rest of the UK. What an insult to lower earners thatย policy is. If your going to tax middle incomes more then the least youย shouldย do is ensure the people that need to benefitย most actually do!!ย ย Edited July 5, 2020 by hmfcbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Fell???ย ย Nope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 05/07/2020 at 23:12, hmfcbilly said: Be careful what you wish for....im not adverse to independence, i actually think Scotland could prosper well with the exports we have. Biggest issue I have is who would lead us if we did though? To me, none of the existing parties are fit to govern us as it stands. I've just posted this on the covid-19 thread in response to a comment on the Scottish health Secretary but i feel its relevant here too.......yep. I read an article yesterday that stated scotland has the worstย drugsย death in Europe and our total is also larger than the other 3 uk nationsย as a collective.ย How the hell does a nation of roughly 6 million people have more drug related deaths than a combined populationย of around 60million from 3 other neighbouring nations?? I then checked unemployment and it seems Scotland also has the highest rate of unemployment from all the UK nations. When you add in the fact anyone earning over 24k a year is taxed higher than the rest of the UK youve really got to wonder wtf the SNP are doing, especially when anyoneย earning less than 24k is approximately ยฃ10 A YEAR better off than the rest of the UK. What an insult to lower earners thatย policy is. If your going to tax middle incomes more then the least youย shouldย do is ensure the people that need to benefitย most actually do!!ย ย ย Have you read this? ย https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49357077 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 10:32, XB52 said: Brilliant isn't it. People preferring a party that sticks up for Scotland, against unionist parties happy to talk down our country to please their masters in Westminster Thanks that's you and me on board - only need to convince a few million more ;)ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 05/07/2020 at 23:12, hmfcbilly said: Be careful what you wish for....im not adverse to independence, i actually think Scotland could prosper well with the exports we have. Biggest issue I have is who would lead us if we did though? To me, none of the existing parties are fit to govern us as it stands. I've just posted this on the covid-19 thread in response to a comment on the Scottish health Secretary but i feel its relevant here too.......yep. I read an article yesterday that stated scotland has the worstย drugsย death in Europe and our total is also larger than the other 3 uk nationsย as a collective.ย How the hell does a nation of roughly 6 million people have more drug related deaths than a combined populationย of around 60million from 3 other neighbouring nations?? I then checked unemployment and it seems Scotland also has the highest rate of unemployment from all the UK nations. When you add in the fact anyone earning over 24k a year is taxed higher than the rest of the UK youve really got to wonder wtf the SNP are doing, especially when anyoneย earning less than 24k is approximately ยฃ10 A YEAR better off than the rest of the UK. What an insult to lower earners thatย policy is. If your going to tax middle incomes more then the least youย shouldย do is ensure the people that need to benefitย most actually do!!ย ย ย How much more is someone on 24k taxed here than in England per year out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: ย Have you read this? ย https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49357077 I have now. Have you read this?ย https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53263211ย skip to the last paragraph of the report that relates to scottish drug deaths being highest proportionally in europeย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Smithee said: ย How much more is someone on 24k taxed here than in England per year out of interest? ยฃ21.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 hours ago, mac said: Thanks that's you and me on board - only need to convince a few million more ย Enough convinced now. ๐ ย Tick tock...ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 hours ago, hmfcbilly said: ยฃ21.ย Yes and bearing in mind you get free bus passes over 60, free prescriptions and free tuition for university as well. Not a bad return for the slightly extra tax. ย people now starting to realise in their droves that the current settlement with Westminster does not work and moving towards being a sovereign country. ย we really need to go our own way. Top of my list would be universal basic Income and setting up a sovereign energy fund (oil, gas, hydro, wind) so that future citizens benefit and not pissing the money up the wall (ala tories in the 80โs onwards) ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Just want to add that England will be running dry of water by the year 2035 if they continue to waste it the way they do. Consider this; loch Ness has more drinking water than the whole of England and Wales combined. Birmingham are already reliant on Wales providing their water resources.ย ย You can guarantee they will be advocating harvesting our water.ย ย Just need to read things like this.ย ย https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/environment/england-run-out-of-water-25-years-scotland-is-the-answer-270651/amp ย The stuff is liquid gold. We are utterly blessed with it. An independent Scotland will be the envy of the world in years to come as we bathe in the stuff and those ***** in Westminster will be begging us for it. I am not suggesting we hold them to random over an essential lifeline but we shouldn't be giving it away.ย ย It is currently a devolved issue but that would soon change if they were in a water crisis.ย Edited July 8, 2020 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Just want to add that England will be running dry of water by the year 2035 if they continue to waste it the way they do. Consider this; loch Ness has more drinking water than the whole of England and Wales combined. Birmingham are already reliant on Wales providing their water resources.ย ย You can guarantee they will be advocating harvesting our water.ย ย Just need to read things like this.ย ย https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/environment/england-run-out-of-water-25-years-scotland-is-the-answer-270651/amp ย The stuff is liquid gold. We are utterly blessed with it. An independent Scotland will be the envy of the world in years to come as we bathe in the stuff and those ***** in Westminster will be begging us for it. I am not suggesting we hold them to random over an essential lifeline but we shouldn't be giving it away.ย ย It is currently a devolved issue but that would soon change if they were in a water crisis.ย Aye, but... but... The rain will run oot, if we vote Yes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said: Yes and bearing in mind you get free bus passes over 60, free prescriptions and free tuition for university as well. Not a bad return for the slightly extra tax. ย people now starting to realise in their droves that the current settlement with Westminster does not work and moving towards being a sovereign country. ย we really need to go our own way. Top of my list would be universal basic Income and setting up a sovereign energy fund (oil, gas, hydro, wind) so that future citizens benefit and not pissing the money up the wall (ala tories in the 80โs onwards) ย ย The 3 examples are only of benefit if you use or qualify for them. Free prescriptions great if you have ongoing health issues but if you have a virus or infection surely it would save a decent sum of money if we still paid for the odd antibiotic? Free bus pass from 60 is a nice perk but my understanding is folk in Wales (although the Welsh plan to increase the age) and NI also get free bus travel at 60 and even londoners get free tube and bus travel from 60 too. As for free university, thats nice too but what percentage of people actually benefit from that? Also, I struggle to understand how every EU citizen gets free University education if they come to study in Scotland but students from NI, England and Wales have to pay๐คทโโ๏ธ ย I'm no fan of Boris Johnson and I think he has handled this whole pandemic terribly and almost criminal at times.ย I am also open minded when it comes to Independence but I think all too often some folk focus too much solely on getting Independence rather than what we (Scotland) would do with it if it became a reality.ย ย I like your last point about the sovereign energy fund. We have a lot of natural resources that, if managed correctly, could be a good source of income for a Scottish economyย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hoots aye water is the new oil and we will be rich rich and sail back into the EU and currency oh aye we will have one maybe. ย Great work by Boris and Rishi today by the wayย we would have gone belly up if independent thereโs no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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