The Mighty Thor Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: Using covid for political ends. Disgraceful really. Nicola Sturgeon refuses to rule out keeping Scotland's mask laws in place for YEARS | Daily Mail Online Asked on the BBC's Sunday Morning programme today if she can see people wearing masks for 'months or years to come', in Scotland, Ms Sturgeon said: 'I hope not. I don't want any of these measures to be in place for any longer than is necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: Asked on the BBC's Sunday Morning programme today if she can see people wearing masks for 'months or years to come', in Scotland, Ms Sturgeon said: 'I hope not. I don't want any of these measures to be in place for any longer than is necessary. Yeah the line I seen almost straight away in the article. It’s the Daily Mail though I guess it really is for the utter mincey heeds who see a headline and swallow it whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Thank the Lord the pandemic is officially over as Sturgeon said that her and the SG would concentrate on defeating the virus and indy would be shelved until then Sturgeon said: “The preparatory work of that (holding a second referendum) is under way right now. We haven’t decided on the date we would seek to introduce the bill, we’ll decide that in the coming weeks. or has she LIED yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Thank the Lord the pandemic is officially over as Sturgeon said that her and the SG would concentrate on defeating the virus and indy would be shelved until then Sturgeon said: “The preparatory work of that (holding a second referendum) is under way right now. We haven’t decided on the date we would seek to introduce the bill, we’ll decide that in the coming weeks. or has she LIED yet again Its most be the longest " preparatory" work ever. Its been going on for decades now it seems. Shes taking people for a cheap ride really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, The Maroon Pound said: But masks don't prevent the spread of viruses, where is the evidence? It's all about control with Nippy and using the covids as a political football https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Its most be the longest " preparatory" work ever. Its been going on for decades now it seems. Shes taking people for a cheap ride really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 James continuing to not care I see on a few threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, jack D and coke said: James continuing to not care I see on a few threads son of Dorries one handed clapping in support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: James continuing to not care I see on a few threads Oh im bored this morning ! Out soon though you’ll be glad to hear . Just needed some entertainment 😂😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Oh im bored this morning ! Out soon though you’ll be glad to hear . Just needed some entertainment 😂😎 😂👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Come on then name a date. Lets get this over and done. Again. Sturgeon plans to introduce independence bill in 'the coming weeks' - STV News No doubt it will be announced in the lead up to local elections in May. Their voters will willingly buy into this as its telling them what they want to hear, without actually delivering it. That should be enough to tide them through the elections. The is all starting to feel a bit Willie Wonka, with Veruca Salt sayings she's got the golden ticket, but actually it's just a never ending gobstopper. Edited January 24, 2022 by Jonkel Hoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jonkel Hoon said: No doubt it will be announced in the lead up to local elections in May. Their voters will willingly buy into this as its telling them what they want to hear, without actually delivering it. That should be enough to tide them through the elections. The is all starting to feel a bit Willie Wonka, with Veruca Salt sayings she's got the golden ticket, but actually it's just a never ending gobstopper. lol good analogy ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Ked said: Yep. When I hear them both not answering questions and not taking responsibility . Or when I hear I cant recall I wasnt aware. Fair assessment from me I'd say. The SNP have failed to deliver any of their manifesto promises and might actually be aa incompetent as the other lot. Your last sentence is just a total lie but expected from a unionist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jonkel Hoon said: No doubt it will be announced in the lead up to local elections in May. Their voters will willingly buy into this as its telling them what they want to hear, without actually delivering it. That should be enough to tide them through the elections. The is all starting to feel a bit Willie Wonka, with Veruca Salt sayings she's got the golden ticket, but actually it's just a never ending gobstopper. Same for all political parties. SNP will get my vote because the rest are awful and no policies for Scotland at any level. I don't agree with everything that the SNP do but I distrust all Westminster parties. I'm ex Labour and will stay that way. Starmer and Sarwar are continuing the hopeless trend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, XB52 said: Your last sentence is just a total lie but expected from a unionist I'm not an unionist. Which manifesto promises have either government delivered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Ked said: I'm not an unionist. Which manifesto promises have either government delivered? Check the SNP website. It might be on there but not sure or maybe SG Web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: Check the SNP website. It might be on there but not sure or maybe SG Web. I asked XB52 as he said my claim was a total lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Abolish council tax.....nut Reduce class sizes to 18....nut Provide Grant's for first time buyers....nope Since 2007 there are 1700 fewer teachers in Scotland The attainment gap between rich and poor kids is wider. Posters saying they dont like them but vote for them because they want independence. Guess what they haven't delivered that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ked said: I asked XB52 as he said my claim was a total lie. I had replied but it never saved for some reason. Here are the first 3 from the May 2021 promises. 4% pay rise for NHS staff Double the Scottish Child payment Freeze income tax rates and bands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Same for all political parties. SNP will get my vote because the rest are awful and no policies for Scotland at any level. I don't agree with everything that the SNP do but I distrust all Westminster parties. I'm ex Labour and will stay that way. Starmer and Sarwar are continuing the hopeless trend! I get where u are coming from, but the raison detre of the SNP is independence. They failed to deliver it in 2014 and despite being successful in elections since, appear no nearer on actually delivering another referendum. At what point - if ever - do their voters stop accepting the empty promise of something that is not in their gift to give? Edited January 24, 2022 by Jonkel Hoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Jonkel Hoon said: I get where u are coming from, but the raison detre of the SNP is independence. They failed to deliver it in 2014 and despite being successful in elections since, appear no nearer on actually delivering another referendum. At what point - if ever - do their voters stop accepting the empty promise of something that is not in their gift to give? For some it's the currency thing or the comfort blanket of the UK. They talk about Nicola Sturgeon being Mammy! I'm not needing convinced as self governance is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: I'm not an unionist. You're against the splitting up of the union, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Jonkel Hoon said: I get where u are coming from, but the raison detre of the SNP is independence. They failed to deliver it in 2014 and despite being successful in elections since, appear no nearer on actually delivering another referendum. At what point - if ever - do their voters stop accepting the empty promise of something that is not in their gift to give? I'm left of centre, I'm into independence. Let's just say for argument's sake that I agree and think "I'm not voting SNP any more" Who do I vote for? Labour? Libdems? Nope! Unionists can tut all they like, there is no alternative until we're independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Smithee said: I'm left of centre, I'm into independence. Let's just say for argument's sake that I agree and think "I'm not voting SNP any more" Who do I vote for? Labour? Libdems? Nope! Unionists can tut all they like, there is no alternative until we're independent. You never mentioned Alba. Are they a viable option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Jonkel Hoon said: You never mentioned Alba. Are they a viable option? They aren't anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: They aren't anything Right your on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Jonkel Hoon said: You never mentioned Alba. Are they a viable option? If they have the tactical foresight, Snp and alba will combine forces, with Snp only putting forward constituency candidates and Alba only putting forward list candidates to maximise the nationalist vote and get a dominating separatist voice in Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now But they don't prevent the spread of the covids, for instance does a family have dinner in the same household's with their masks on? Even best expensive masks do not guarantee 100% they only claim to reduce transmission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Smithee said: You're against the splitting up of the union, no? No. I think Scotland is caught in a benefit trap . Doesnt mean I think after 15 years of SNP governance they dont deserve criticism. In fact they deserve to be ripped a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ked said: No. I think Scotland is caught in a benefit trap . Doesnt mean I think after 15 years of SNP governance they dont deserve criticism. In fact they deserve to be ripped a new one. You're in favour of breaking up the union? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Smithee said: I'm left of centre, I'm into independence. Let's just say for argument's sake that I agree and think "I'm not voting SNP any more" Who do I vote for? Labour? Libdems? Nope! Unionists can tut all they like, there is no alternative until we're independent. That's fair enough. Except you defend the bunch of monkeys running the show at every turn. I'm conservative. I do not defend a conservative party that thinks raising tax rates brings in more money . Its proven not to. And if you think Scottish independence will be a success with socialism I'm afraid you just dont see what's went before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: You're in favour of breaking up the union? Not breaking a union. But fixing Scotland. And we can never do that while part of the Union. The main reason being is we conveniently blame England. Our psyche is pathetic and the SG dinnae half play on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Ked said: That's fair enough. Except you defend the bunch of monkeys running the show at every turn. I'm conservative. I do not defend a conservative party that thinks raising tax rates brings in more money . Its proven not to. And if you think Scottish independence will be a success with socialism I'm afraid you just dont see what's went before I rarely defend them, I do point out how ridiculous the attacks are though. What went before? The stonking success of the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Ked said: Not breaking a union. But fixing Scotland. And we can never do that while part of the Union. The main reason being is we conveniently blame England. Our psyche is pathetic and the SG dinnae half play on it. You're not in favour of breaking up the union, you're a unionist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: For some it's the currency thing or the comfort blanket of the UK. They talk about Nicola Sturgeon being Mammy! I'm not needing convinced as self governance is natural. Nicola Sturgeon described herself as chief mammy. And it was lapped up by the flag waving robots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: I rarely defend them, I do point out how ridiculous the attacks are though. What went before? The stonking success of the right Actually yes. It has many faults but it has delivered in much more substantial ways than any Socialist regime. Better educated Better health Less state murder. Socialism doesnt work. Even the Chinese realised that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Smithee said: You're not in favour of breaking up the union, you're a unionist. Fixing Scotland for me means independence. I dont want to break the union of Wales England and Northern Ireland. So you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Smithee said: I rarely defend them, I do point out how ridiculous the attacks are though. What went before? The stonking success of the right You are like a hare out the trap when they are criticised. Their record on the health service. You and others point blank refused to acknowledge that when I posted about how they had failed. They're shit . They are on a par with the current clowns down the road. Scotland is like Ireland and its conservative. I honestly think the Scottish Conservative party would pose a better threat if they dropped their unionist bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ked said: Fixing Scotland for me means independence. I dont want to break the union of Wales England and Northern Ireland. So you're wrong. Ok, you're a separatist. I don't know what you're on about with socialist regimes though, there's somewhere in between socialist regimes and the right wing cluster **** that dominates britain. I want Scotland to be a fairer place than the UK is, I'm not apologising for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ked said: You are like a hare out the trap when they are criticised. Their record on the health service. You and others point blank refused to acknowledge that when I posted about how they had failed. They're shit . They are on a par with the current clowns down the road. Scotland is like Ireland and its conservative. I honestly think the Scottish Conservative party would pose a better threat if they dropped their unionist bit. Yep, pointing at how stupid the accusations are. But whatever, what do I care if you think I'm a sturgeon lover, knock yourself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Smithee said: Ok, you're a separatist. I don't know what you're on about with socialist regimes though, there's somewhere in between socialist regimes and the right wing cluster **** that dominates britain. I want Scotland to be a fairer place than the UK is, I'm not apologising for that Britain is nowhere near a right wing cluster $#%# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, Smithee said: Yep, pointing at how stupid the accusations are. But whatever, what do I care if you think I'm a sturgeon lover, knock yourself out. I'm pointing out how stupid the flag waving face painting twats that think nationality is politic. But but England is embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ked said: I'm pointing out how stupid the flag waving face painting twats that think nationality is politic. But but England is embarrassing Cool, I'll point out how thick the twats that think there's any equivalence between the SNP and the Westminster Tories are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Smithee said: Cool, I'll point out how thick the twats that think there's any equivalence between the SNP and the Westminster Tories are. I cant recall. I dont remember I wasnt aware. All answers given by two people who lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ked said: I cant recall. I dont remember I wasnt aware. All answers given by two people who lied. they're just exactly the same eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Ked said: Nicola Sturgeon described herself as chief mammy. And it was lapped up by the flag waving robots Why would those union jack waving robots lap it up? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Ked said: Abolish council tax.....nut Reduce class sizes to 18....nut Provide Grant's for first time buyers....nope Since 2007 there are 1700 fewer teachers in Scotland The attainment gap between rich and poor kids is wider. Posters saying they dont like them but vote for them because they want independence. Guess what they haven't delivered that either. That's the crux of it for me. I want independence and would have voted for them, but if I had I wouldn't be again. They've got a single purpose and despite the horror show in Westminster they're not a jot closer to delivering independence imo. Much like their other policies, they simply don't have the ability to deliver on things sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Quelle suprrise. SNP accused of ‘shameless power grab’ over permanent Covid legislation (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Another boot in the baws for the SG with this. About time too. What were they thinking really? Trying to curry favour with a minority with a policy which has serious impact on many others. Hope they see sense and boot in into touch. Nicola Sturgeon’s transgender reforms ‘could be harmful to women and should be stopped’ (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Another boot in the baws for the SG with this. About time too. What were they thinking really? Trying to curry favour with a minority with a policy which has serious impact on many others. Hope they see sense and boot in into touch. Nicola Sturgeon’s transgender reforms ‘could be harmful to women and should be stopped’ (msn.com) I'm confused by that article. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to self-declare their gender? That said the whole thing is dated hogwash imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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